AquaWateria
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Deadpool is better than Superman.
Say what you want about Deadpool and his jokes or memeshit but at least its far more entertaining than a dull character like Superman.
Thank god Batman is in the movie.
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Batman v Superman advance ticket sales outpacing The Avengers, Furious 7, Deadpool
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Deadpool is better than Superman.
Say what you want about Deadpool and his jokes or memeshit but at least its far more entertaining than a dull character like Superman.
Thank god Batman is in the movie.
karasu
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kill that noise. It sounds like more "Superman is boring because I don't read him and have never actually took the effort to look into him" bullshit.
generic_username
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Your only exposure to comic book characters must be through movies otherwise what you said is laughable.Do you only watch MCU stuff or do you actually read comics and know what Superman's legacy is?
Pretty much.
The point is that we need more to argue about.
AquaWateria
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I've read comics over Superman but I just couldn't ever get into him. Not saying he's a shit character but some of the material I've read from him has been dull for me.
Though knowing comic book fans they'll automatically think its bullshit for a person to find a character boring or bring up MCU as a defense. Its not like I'm only picking on DC because I do find some characters in Marvel dull as well.
Though knowing comic book fans they'll automatically think its bullshit for a person to find a character boring or bring up MCU as a defense. Its not like I'm only picking on DC because I do find some characters in Marvel dull as well.
What don't you find interesting about Superman, exactly?
I can't believe how hyped I was for Man of Steel honestly. I really believed when I got into the cinema, that it would be the movie to show Snyder's maturity as a director, handling a more human and character driven Superman in a real world without being hampered by his stylistic instincts.
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AquaWateria
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Like I understand there's more depth to Superman's character than just being omnipotent. However, him being omnipotent is what kills it for me.
Either that or I've been reading the wrong comics for him that doesn't provide a deeper meaning to his character.
WyndhamPrice
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Read American Alien, by Max Landis.
It's totally out of continuity but he writes Superman from the perspective that he is Clark Kent first and foremost, and is just a guy trying to do the right thing. Each issue so far (there's been 5 out of 7) is Clark at a different stage of growing up.
Also I'd recommend All-Star Superman, which is probably the best Superman series. It's also self-contained and made me love the character after being apathetic for the same reasons you are.
I am going to see BvS next weekend, but I have been mildly disappointed with most blockbusters these past couple of years, so I am not expecting much. Better than Age of Ultron would be nice, but I'd settle for better than Jurassic World.
Comics.. Do you read them?
LegendofDragoonLives
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You're not the only mate, his character is pretty boring a lot of the time. Personality and being OP play a role in it. I remember when there were a bunch of Superman fans defending him that the main reason Batman is better is just because of writers lmao
He has his moments though, there's times when he's great but is very hit or miss.
He has his moments though, there's times when he's great but is very hit or miss.
I think Superman being a boring character shouldn't really be a controversial opinion. He is boring. But that's also what makes him interesting. He is boring because he is the western superhero archetype. His power set is "generic", his personality is largely "generic", and he's a goodie two shoes. But that's also because much of what defines a "generic" superhero came from Superman. Superman is to superheroes what Lord of the Rings is to modern fantasy.
Just because he is a boring character doesn't mean you can't tell great stories with him, as many writers have proven.
Just because he is a boring character doesn't mean you can't tell great stories with him, as many writers have proven.
Those were brighter, more hopeful times.
I'm settling for seeing some cool action scenes on screen, I have no other expectations.
WyndhamPrice
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I think that's what made All-Star Superman so good to me. His powers get amplified by 1000% but he's also only got a year to live so he has to decide what to do with that time. It makes for some really crazy fun throwbacky 50s sci-fi stories.
But I can't say he's boring. Many perceive the flying brick archetype. Especially superman boring because he was the first.
However, I don't believe for a second that half the people who say that could really get into depth on the character. Half of them think he's op and can do anything, yet know nothing of his powerset , or that of his allies or his enemies.
AquaWateria
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Thanks for the recommendation, I'll look into those two series.
That's weird...since Deadpool's best writer Joe Kelly is also the best Superman writer.
I watched that MoS trailer 20+ times too....
Thanks MoS, now I'm immune to BvS hype so I will enjoy it for sure.
AquaWateria
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Hey man Scarlett Johansson is a beauty.
Poodlestrike
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Ok, I'm gonna have to stop you here.
Joe Kelly Deadpool is probably the single strongest Deadpool run, but calling him the best Superman author is a little insane.
Batman: Under the Red Hood
Superman vs. the Elite
Are my top 2.
Given what MoS and TDKR did in China, the growth of superhero films in China since then, and its release date, I would imagine that it's set to do quite well. $100M shouldn't be an issue. I wouldn't be that surprised to see $150M+.
Man of Steel has a personal accolade with me as being the first film since Phantom Menace to have a massive disparity between its trailer and the final film. The Official Trailer 2 still gives me goose bumps watching it now, and got me crazy hyped for the movie before it released.
The actual film was such a bloated mess and let down.
Schweinehund
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The impressions from the Chinese premiere seemed positive.
I think CGI is a big seller in their market. I know Jurassic World and Transformers did well over there.
Flashpoint Paradox, Batman Under the Red Hood, Batman/Superman Apocalypse
Schweinehund
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That is tough.
I think Doomed and Two Worlds are still my favorite.
Two Worlds & Flashpoint, I suppose. I don't want to leave out Captain Thunder and cool Aquaman.
Two Worlds has a really fantastic speech at the end by Owlman.
Mask of the Phantasm
The Dark Knight Returns Part 2
AquaWateria
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I really hope I end up enjoying Batman v Superman and hope it doesnt turn out like Man of Steel.
But fuck me for getting spoiled already over a specific scene in the movie. Seriously does spoilers freaking suck.
But fuck me for getting spoiled already over a specific scene in the movie. Seriously does spoilers freaking suck.
Poodlestrike
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Rise above the spoiler. Sublimate it. Imagine contingencies, how did it come to be, how will it play out, what will it effect afterwards. Construct a fiction surrounding the spoiler. And then, be surprised and amazed at how right and how wrong you were. Find joy in the journey.
Batman/Superman: Public Enemies is the pick for you, then.
But seriously though, more people need to watch Superman vs. The Elite. Movie gets no respect.
generic_username
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Part 1 > 2
Mutant fight > BVS fight
Less of Millers terrible portrayal of Superman the better.
Also Superman vs the Elite is fantastic! Especially the ending.. Shows why Superman is so awesome being the goody two shoes he is.
There is still a chance of it going MOS route although early impressions indicate that is a very low possibility since almost every impression has been positive. All I can say is dont get your hope up and be pleasantly surprised if it turns out good.
I like the sound of that. Gonna start with that, thanks!
Superman/Batman: Apocalypse
Flashpoint Paradox
For solo movies
Batman: Under the Red Hood
Mask of the Phantasm
Superman vs. The Elite
generic_username
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Superman/Batman apocalypse is worth it especially for the amazing Wonder Woman fight.
That trailer has more emotional growth and a clearer character arc for Clark than the actual film. The film spent more time trying to be a sci-fi epic than a character piece, and Clark's formative years and relationship with his dad was watered down by being shown spread over multiple flashbacks. I was downright incredulous at the infamous tornado death scene, which was nonsensical on so many levels.
I'm sure with some brutal editing, a MoS that was in line with the trailer could be salvaged from the wreck of the cinematic release. There would still be a bunch of issue inherent to the screenplay, but a different director could have made a better film from the source material.
Incidentally, the one part of MoS that sticks in my craw the most is a single line of dialogue, which shows that the Goyer and Synder DNGAF about producing a coherent story. After Faora's fight with the the army, her pithy victory line of "as you know, evolution always wins" is entirely opposed to the plot of the film and what her character is fighting for. Zod wants to rebuild Kryptonian society that explicitly did away with evolution. But I guess the line sounds cool, so Zack "style over substance" Synder kept it in.
Poodlestrike
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Ha, I was thinking that as I'm watching it now. I thought, "Do all animated movies look this bad?"
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