The rose-tinted glasses line from S2E10 is still one of the best lines I've ever heard in a TV show. That shit hit me hard.
When Diane tells Katrina that Mr. Peanutbutter is dropping out she goes "Bye, Cruella!"and it made me think that 101 Dalmatians must be a very different movie in this universe.
There are?Hah yeah, even if they use non sapient dalmatians (as we know there are non sapient animals) they'd still be anthropomorphic.
Fuck yesBojack has been officially renewed for season 5! posted just now on the Official Facebook page .
There are?
I thought they basically drugged them into no sapient to make food
IIRC they weren't, they were essentially lobotomised since birthThe chicken for days spokesman explained that the "food" chicken were born like that, that's why Beca couldn't speak.
That's how i understood it anyways.
I actually looked it up after to see if it was a common phrase that's been used before. It's so good.The rose-tinted glasses line from S2E10 is still one of the best lines I've ever heard in a TV show. That shit hit me hard.
Yuss
Bojack doesnt need friends to function, he needs a model of self love.Maybe season 2 with the "it gets easier" ending, but the events of S2E11 completely override that imo.
This is the only season where BoJack doesn't up in a worse place than he was at the beginning. I think above all, he needs his friends in order to function, and he's going to have to earn those friendships back. Which is why it's important that he has a relationship with Hollyhock. Todd hasn't completely shut the door on him, and he'll at least have a working relationship with PC again. It'll be interesting to see how he fits into Diane and Mr. Peanutbutter's lives, especially with their marital troubles.
I think season really is about being able to move on. Time's arrow marches only forward. It also shows what happens when you dwell too much. From going on a binge(PC), disapearing for a year deteriorating relationships(Bojack), to just stewing in your own miserableness for your entire life(Bojack's mom).
The hopeful message at the end seemed to say that things wont always work out the way you want, but they can still work out. You have to be able to accept the reality of it though.
I'm gobsmacked that one of the most touchingly human shows I've ever seen is a comedy cartoon with a cast of animal people. I literally shed tears at the finale. The build-up and deterioration of relationships is done so meticulously in this show, whether it's Diane and MrPB drifting apart or Bojack and Hollyhock slowly building their bond together. You rarely, ever, ever see it done that fucking well.
It was my favorite season so far which is saying a lot; in particular the episode that illustrates depression so amazingly, where you can hear Bojack's inner monologue that he is constantly trying to shake off. Absolutely bracing and painful to watch.
Todd was kind of a miss for me, though; he needed a partner in crime to bounce off of. And I think it would've been funnier if the conclusion to the clown story was that one of them gets recognized by a gentle, educated, normal person who knew them as a dentist and is now meeting a feral homicidal clown. To be honest, I think they designed Todd to be the funny ying to Bojack's angry yang and with them apart, Todd was just a random singularity that drifted around.
In general the show has always been stronger dramatically than comedically, for me, and that was never truer than now. The comedy lands solidly in the "sensible chuckle" column and acts like a light salve that makes the pain and darkness of the narratives burn a little less.
The slow and gradual unravelling of things towards the end of the episode that just makes you want to look away, I'd forgotten that he also tried it on with Charlotte.S2ep11 is seriously hard to watch, Im always dead silent when it ends
I'm already reeling from that line then they have her turning up weepy at her sister's place, my heart!The rose-tinted glasses line from S2E10 is still one of the best lines I've ever heard in a TV show. That shit hit me hard.
This is the best news of the day! Can't believe they already have the first episode ready to go so quickly! Good on them! Will be cool to see where they go with.Bojack Big Brother
I think episode 11 might just have been the best episode of the series. It's a really fantastic episode with great concept and fantastic execution. It's pretty much spotless and thoroughly chilling. The way it approached dementia (skipping around time, blurred faces, items in the background popping in and out of existence) was incredible.
Todd remains the best character, and him being asexual was surprising and well done. .
Bojack doesnt need friends to function, he needs a model of self love.
His family was shit, now he has a chance of having a nonshit family so he can follow a roadmap of what its like to be better.
Bojack needs to be self sufficient
I didn't think it fit considering he pursued Hayako in the first season. Maybe it works because it was long distance and obviously a con, but then why'd he bother?
I hope the next seasoninvolves Bojack meeting Henrietta, especially since the animators mentioned that they had fully drawn her and everything, but settled on a scribbled out face instead. Could also provide some catharsis in regards to his father too.
artistic flourish. the animators did it as a way to show how painful the memory was to beatrice, like scribbling over the image.Yeah, why did they do that? Indecisiveness? Timidity? Or was it done as an artistic flourish?
Bojack has been officially renewed for season 5! posted just now on the Official Facebook page .
I hope season 5 is the last season, don't want it to overstay it's welcome
I hope I never get cynical enough about stuff that I love that I worry that the people responsible for the magic I fell in love with don't have what it takes to be true to their vision
Wouldn't you rather have a series end while its still good rather than it peter out into a pitiful existence?I hope I never get cynical enough about stuff that I love that I worry that the people responsible for the magic I fell in love with don't have what it takes to be true to their vision
Wouldn't you rather have a series end while its still good rather than it peter out into a pitiful existence?
Yeah, even if we wind up with the show ending on a shitty season or two, I'd hate to prematurely end the show on some arbitrary count of seasons (5...?)Wouldn't you rather have 20 seasons of greatness? It's a 50/50 shot, but if you hope for the worst, you'll never get the best.
This isn't The Simpsons where it's a show run by people who are barely involved and swap out showrunners every few years.
If Waskberg and Hanawalt have more Bojack stories to tell, you're actually going to get in front of them and stop them because you think you know better about their capabilities?
Think about what you're actually saying, dude, because that is what you are actually saying.
I hope season 5 is the last season, don't want it to overstay it's welcome
I hope I never get cynical enough about stuff that I love that I worry that the people responsible for the magic I fell in love with don't have what it takes to be true to their vision
They say it in this season. He's asexual, not aromantic. He still pursues relationships, just not sexual ones.
I don't buy it. Hayako is someone Todd wears half a suit for. I don't think he'd even consider it if there wasn't some intent or desire.
It's clear the asexual thing was tacked on for the third and fourth season. I'm fine with that, but in the first season he seems actively interested in a woman.
So what, you think he'd only want to look good to sleep with her, and not simply to impress her? I don't get how the suit factors in at all.
I hope I never get cynical enough about stuff that I love that I worry that the people responsible for the magic I fell in love with don't have what it takes to be true to their vision
Wouldn't you rather have 20 seasons of greatness? It's a 50/50 shot, but if you hope for the worst, you'll never get the best.
This isn't The Simpsons where it's a show run by people who are barely involved and swap out showrunners every few years.
If Waskberg and Hanawalt have more Bojack stories to tell, you're actually going to get in front of them and stop them because you think you know better about their capabilities?
Think about what you're actually saying, dude, because that is what you are actually saying.
Yeah, not gonna lie, it's starting to feel routine.
Wouldn't you rather have 20 seasons of greatness? It's a 50/50 shot, but if you hope for the worst, you'll never get the best.
This isn't The Simpsons where it's a show run by people who are barely involved and swap out showrunners every few years.
If Waskberg and Hanawalt have more Bojack stories to tell, you're actually going to get in front of them and stop them because you think you know better about their capabilities?
Think about what you're actually saying, dude, because that is what you are actually saying.
Yeah you're right.Bojack doesnt need friends to function, he needs a model of self love.
His family was shit, now he has a chance of having a nonshit family so he can follow a roadmap of what its like to be better.
Bojack needs to be self sufficient
Did anyone feel that last scene with Diane was not earned. It felt a artificially dramatic.
I guess I felt the fight was not earned. There was no reason to get that mad and even if the gesture was perhaps a bit dumb I couldn't grok why Diane was not trying harder to understand why Mr P wanted it to be 'their' home.Nope. We've known it was coming since Mr. Peanutbutter told us how many fights their marriage had left in it.