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Capcom still using in-house engine (Panta Rhei?) for next-gen
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Your avatar threw me off. I was like, "who is this poser pretending to give a shit about DC?"
Dictator93
Member
The engine was too cool visually and features-wise. Too bad they had no idea how to use it to make games.
Works for me. I love games running on Framework.
It can as long as theres no actual game play sytems
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
Texture streaming seemed pretty weaksauce in RE6, I only played the demo though.
I care about good controls tho, 3ds is death
CrimsonCrescendo
Banned
They've renewed the trademark, so obviously they are still trying:
http://gamingbolt.com/ps4-exclusive-deep-down-might-still-be-coming
Though again, after 3 years (as far as we know) and 3 announced delays, my money is with them having a lot of development woes with Panta Rhei.
http://gamingbolt.com/ps4-exclusive-deep-down-might-still-be-coming
Though again, after 3 years (as far as we know) and 3 announced delays, my money is with them having a lot of development woes with Panta Rhei.
JordanN
Banned
What kind of look are they after? Realism? Cartoon? None of those are restricted by an engine.
Example: Someone recreated Wind Waker in UE4 including both the Gamecube and Wii U's style.
MissCauthon
Member
I still have faith.
Probably running on a PC and not a actual PS4
You don't think PS4 could handle those kinds of debris effects?
All we know is that the original tech demo was on PC, what they showed off after that didn't seem like PC footage
Neff
Member
What kind of look are they after? Realism? Cartoon? None of those are restricted by an engine.
Example: Someone recreated Wind Waker in UE4 including both the Gamecube and Wii U's style.
Like I said, neither MT nor Panta Rhei offer Capcom a complete package of what they're looking for, so I'm guessing none of the other engines out there do either. It really comes down to what they want to put on screen, and how practical it will be to do it. Capcom set their sights high last gen, which is why they developed MT rather than using a proprietary engine. No game quite looks like a MT Framework game as a result. From 2013
Since they haven't used the engine in a commercial game yet, I'm guessing that they'll either continue to develop and improve Panta Rhei, or will (or already have done) develop a new engine from scratch.
I still have faith.
PS4 could probably do that. The gif is making it look better than it likely is because it's a) small, and b) is hiding the engine's tell-tale limitations through compression. I remember Bloodborne gifs of post-release streams looking more impressive than the actual game does on a big TV, because my mind was filling in the gaps lost in translation.
Are there any examples of it doing so? (Genuinely curious)
Apparently, Deep Down is still in development:
Capcom released a "Company presentation 2016" video on January 19.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fut2TpaUcJY
Skip to the 5:44 mark.
They show some footage of Deep Down being worked on (and also Monster Hunter)
No way to tell the date of the footage, but it's at most as old as 2014.
It appears the "Panta Rhei" name has been dropped, as the video refers to it as "New engine".
Capcom released a "Company presentation 2016" video on January 19.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fut2TpaUcJY
Skip to the 5:44 mark.
They show some footage of Deep Down being worked on (and also Monster Hunter)
No way to tell the date of the footage, but it's at most as old as 2014.
It appears the "Panta Rhei" name has been dropped, as the video refers to it as "New engine".
Astral Dog
Member
What kind of look are they after? Realism? Cartoon? None of those are restricted by an engine.
Example: Someone recreated Wind Waker in UE4 including both the Gamecube and Wii U's style.
wow, those are pretty good, last gen UE3 recieved many complains about its games looking samey, and specially not runing at good framerates. i suppose character models were more unique based on other engines too.
wich does not seem to be the case on UE 4 obviously
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
They'd most likely be able to do everything they wanted with Panta Rhei by modifying UE4 to suit their needs, without the pitfalls of a in-house engine. UE4 is much more efficient for avoiding samey looks than UE3. I also don't believe PS4 could feasibly handle these effects at 1080/60fps which iirc was the original performance target. Capcom is really struggling this gen so they need all the help they can get truth be told.
SpiceMelange
Member
Jawmuncher
Member
Lol, it was still Dino Crisis. But was the VMU pixel art for the game on Dreamcast.
I changed it though since a lot were getting confused.
VolticArchangel
Member
There were NicoNico streams where they played the game natively on a PS4, not "hardware on the same level as a PS4" or it's likes.
This gen is unlikely from my experience, next gen this will be easy.I still have faith.
unity of the void
Member
My heart can't take this!
MrCunningham
Member
Epic completely overhauled the lighting engine for UE4, especially with Physically Based Materials/ Rendering. UE3 could probably be modified to get simaler results, but it wouldn't be worth it to put in all the time and effort. There are quite a few cell shaded games for UE3.
Guilty Gear Xrd uses UE3:
So does the Kings Quest episodes:
Though King's Quest does look more like a UE3 game than Guilty Gear Xrd does.
Yeah, I know what you mean by the UE3 look that a lot of games had, although it's not like UE3 was incapable of creating unique looking games.
It's when a lot of them go for a realistic art direction on UE3 that a lot of them end up looking similar.
Ghost Slayer
Member
Enough time for them to change it from online game to single player game :3
Ghost Slayer
Member
Care to explain?
What?
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
Why do you think it's crap?
Noisepurge
Member
well if it runs at that 360p the gif is on then maybe?
Kaleinc
Banned
Texture pop in, stuttering, poor lighting (reflections on metal serfaces, junky god rays etc), poor face rendering and vegetation and so on.
Performance could be better too.
I still have faith.
Oh my god.
Man, I knew MT Framwork was a PC-first engine but to actually see the game running there... *sobs*
The things I would do to be able to play MH4U on PC.
sechsterangriff
Member
If they dropped the "Panta Rhei" name then it's probably a different engine right now. I wonder if it's a completely fresh start, a new fork or if they decided to build on the strengths of MT Framework...
I didn't expect Capcom of all Japanese companies to have so much trouble to release a new engine. They were the first JP software house to release an excellent inhouse engine last gen and made many excellent looking games with it. Their output for the 8th gen consoles up till now seems really underwhelming. XBO launch had Dead Rising 3 back in 2013 and tomorrow SFV in 2016. Correct me if i'm wrong, but everything in between were remasters and console to pc ports.
For an unfinished game, that doesn't sound too bad.