DangerStepp
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Yeah, he always took time to reply to my messages, too. There's not many like him left. Except maybe skip.Gamer @ Heart said:
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Dan Hsu leaves 1up
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bengraven
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DangerStepp said:Good.
I don't know how much more I can take of everyone leaving. It's 10x harder of a blow whenever it's someone who has been in the game for such a long time. It's on par, if not worse, whenever John left.
Yeah, it's as if every one of my favorites keeps leaving. I think I've cursed them. Luke, then John, now Shoe.
I'm stuck with Garnett and Mielke now and if they leave, I'm done.
Wait, I like Jeff Green, too, but GFW is dead as well...
Guy Legend
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.plaidtopia said:
GitarooMan
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Still amazed, although I shouldn't be, at the shameless Shoe=Microsoft brigade. Keep up the good fight, internet warriors.
PistolGrip
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I agree
I thought EGM = Shane, Sam and Jeremy? Shoe is just oversees the operation? no?
Assaulted Nuts
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QFMFTGitarooMan said:
I AM JOHN!
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PistolGrip said:
Go fuck yourself and have a nice day.
God, this thread has been turned to complete and utter shit. One thing I don't get, though, is why the job was never offered to Jeff.
MotorbreathX
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Sorry to see him leave, but the world will go on. Change happens.
Visualante
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Some real jerks in this thread.
PistolGrip
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What do you expect from some of us? this man put down Little Big Planet, said killzone was buggy and bad graphically, said PSN would never amount to anything, , puts achievements and MS products on a pedestal.I AM JOHN! said:Go fuck yourself and have a nice day.
God, this thread has been turned to complete and utter shit. One thing I don't get, though, is why the job was never offered to Jeff.
I am sad hes leaving because I grew up with him on EGM but I agree i may be for the better.
BenjaminBirdie
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SPEA said:
I really don't get how someone can be supportive of EGM's approach and ethos as a magazine and still dance around like an Ewok when one of the people most responsible for that leaves.
Jibber Hack
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"In the words of Sony: Accept change... three"
Barakov
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I AM JOHN! said:God, this thread has been turned to complete and utter shit. One thing I don't get, though, is why the job was never offered to Jeff.
Totally agree about the thread. I always haven't agreed with Shoe on his opinions but at least I could see where he was coming. But I mean, for fucks sake, some of you people need to get over yourselves.
As for Jeff not being offered the job it's quite possible he was happy doing what he was doing and didn't want to be doing what Shoe was and what Sam will be doing. Even though he plays consoles PC is what he's really interested in so he's probably more comfortable there.
Nizz
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Aww man. I've been subscribed to EGM for so long, 10+ years. I've always appreciated Shoe's integrity (which is true of everybody at 1up) and dedication to his readers. Always have felt a sort of "no bs to our reader base" vibe from him. I really don't know what is going on at Ziff Davis. I've been reading far too many "goodbye" and "reassuring" blogs and posts to be filled with confidence in what's happening over there. I hope 1up and everyone there are around for many years to come, but sometimes man, I don't know...No Means Nomad
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This is too bad. I'm sorry to see him leave but hopefully he'll land somewhere where he can still write.
People whose avatars have eye patches make this thread kind of drivel, but this is a pretty big deal. At least Sam Kennedy is taking Shoe's place, because he seems to know what's up most of the time.
People whose avatars have eye patches make this thread kind of drivel, but this is a pretty big deal. At least Sam Kennedy is taking Shoe's place, because he seems to know what's up most of the time.
Anerythristic
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I can't wait to see how Sam steers this ship, I am a multi console owner this generation but from what I can tell he is more biased than Dan. Shoe loved Halo, Sam loves Sony, that is a big difference.
BenjaminBirdie
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PistolGrip said:
That's such garbage and you know it. As said, the moment he'll be remembered most for was having the guts to stick MS over the coals over their launch problems. For talking about some game publishers hold too much sway over gaming mags.
But no, some people still have these blinders up because he might not have been feeling a game they love.
Newsflash, none of us here (except the actual ZD employees among us) know how much he had to do with all the other things you might love about EGM, and we never will. It's ridiculous to pretend that he only ever fostered some Pro-MS agenda in every meeting, and was shouted down by every one else in the room, who were right and true and honest, the true avatars of What You Love About EGM.
What do I expect from some of you? The knowledge that someone can have personal preference and not let it interfere with their job.
scoobs said:
Shoe might have liked Splinter Cell as much as Halo, but that didn't stop him from calling out Ubisoft on their PR practices until Ubi banned 1up from reviewing their games altogether. Maybe other websites don't talk about it as much, but Shane on a podcast said that Shoe had done more to preserve a gaming website's integrity than anyone else he knew.
I AM JOHN!
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Now, LittleBigPlanet may be my most anticipated game of this year, and I disagree with Shoe, but I can totally see where he was coming from when he made his comments (i.e., the gameplay itself seems rather simplistic and who knows if the user-created levels will really deliver; this was back before we knew about things like death, object editing and creation, and a bunch of other stuff).PistolGrip said:
Which Killzone was this? Since the first two are pieces of shit, and I don't remember him saying that Killzone 2 had bad graphics.
He never said that.
God forbid someone really like Halo and achievements. God for-fucking-bid. Perhaps we should hate Giant Bomb because Jeff Gertsmann and Ryan Davis are huge achievement whores, too. Or is it just that you hate him because he's more vocal about his Halo love than other games (aside from Advance Wars), because that OBVIOUSLY MEANS THAT HE'S A MICROSOFT FANBOY OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (oh wait, wasn't EGM constantly called out last generation for being completely pro-Sony?)
So I noticed, you pathetic fucking fanboy. How about instead of justifying why you're being a cunt, why don't you just stop being a cunt?
BenjaminBirdie
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scoobs said:
Newsflash, any EIC of a gaming magazine is going to be a die hard fan of some game, I would fucking hope.
mabuza said:
See above.
skip said:
I dunno, my attempt was to mock the notion of serious games journalism more so than games journalism.
But like I said, I do find most journalism, be it sports, political, games, science etc to be rather poor. Its made me wonder if there is a problem with journalism curriculum or if its just human nature.
At any rate, best of luck to Dan in his next line of work. I may not agree with him but he has my respect as a person.
Broadbandito
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He will be missed by me
eatyobeans
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Is Ziff Davis dead yet?
whatdidyousay
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I always liked Hsu. Never met him, but he seemed like a nice guy and a professional. I agreed with a lot of what he had to say (although I'm not a big Halo fan), and I was a little surprised that he was leaving ZD. Good luck Hsu!
Felix Lighter
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Grecco said:
You're right but it's annoying none the less.
scoobs said:
Yeah, it's really horrible that he liked something so popular amoung gamers. Not sure how EGM has survived with such a misguided leader. (sarcasm)
Would you have the same opinion if he loved your favorite game/system? Would we still have console fanboys if forums didn't exist?
Big Shirtless Ron
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I AM JOHN! said:
I AM JOHN! said:
dude, you're just as fucking pathetic as the people you're "arguing" with.