Snaku said:Two more pages!
Snaku said:Oh lord, the backlash would shake the heavens. :lol
MAKE IT HAPPEN, BLIZZARD!
The logical part is up for debate but hey, it was great to read very well thought out.Amir0x said:He knows what he wants, and, he has created extremely logical and well-thought out posts supporting his positions... he is no troll, at least we can say.
Diablos said:*snip*
TekunoRobby said:The logical part is up for debate but hey, it was great to read and very well thought out.
DQVIII bombed here did it not? I loved that game.
TekunoRobby said:DQVIII bombed here did it not? I loved that game.
Diablos said:Please don't call me a graphics whore. DQ8 easily has some of the best graphics on PS2, but it doesn't look like Crysis or something. I enjoyed DQ8 because it was a good game. I do not enjoy RPG's on handhelds, period. I don't really like handhelds at all -- DS, PSP, doesn't matter.
yet the DS is selling more than all the systems here now... I think you are underestimating the appeal of handhelds hereDiablos said:But that remains to be seen. They had a sure, even if slow and steady, gain of DQ fans here. Now it's uncertain. Handhelds don't have as much appeal here as consoles do. This is not Japan.
Diablos said:One other thing I forgot to mention: I bought DQ8 for the FF12 demo. Surprisingly, I played the FF12 demo once, hoping they would improve it before the final release. Then I put in DQ8, and couldn't put it down for quite some time. After that I played it at my leisure for a few months and really enjoyed it... it's probably the best game I played on PS2 (next to VP2). However, I am not interested in DQ9 on DS. Some people might call me a "bandwagon jumper," but I consider myself a new DQ fan. The fact that I'm not going to buy a DS and DQ9 should give a clue as to what will happen to some of the new DQ fans S-E picked up because of DQ8. They always have Japan by default. But if a lot of other gamers get turned off by the idea of a DQ on DS, then that's just hurting new fans and the potential for the series to gain popularity and therefore sales in NA and Europe.(they didn't)
I don't want a Wii, but if DQ9 was announced for it, that may have changed my mind! Instead, S-E is dumping a bunch of console RPG's onto a handheld.
Please don't call me a graphics whore. DQ8 easily has some of the best graphics on PS2, but it doesn't look like Crysis or something. I enjoyed DQ8 because it was a good game. I do not enjoy RPG's on handhelds, period. I don't really like handhelds at all -- DS, PSP, doesn't matter.
Is it my loss though? I don't enjoy handhelds so I don't really feel like I'm missing out. I think S-E could lose a lot of new fans, and probably will. I can't be the only person who bought DQ8 for the FF12 demo, only to find I actually enjoyed DQ8 and nearly forgot about the stupid demo.Deku said:Your loss I suppose. I will have a problem if all future DQ games are on handhelds, but putting at least one on a portable opens some very interesting gameplay possibilities as well as demographic possibilities.
I work 70 hours a week and can't sit at home to play, but i can play in the office, and a DS is perfect. For schoolkids, its the same thing, only they don't have to be tied to their TVs at home, which is a good thing.
I'm willing to give IX a chance, it's really that simple. And the screens we've seen seem to indicate a large overworld. Any my guess is, it will follow the FFXI system of LOD management by splitting up the overworld into 'zones' and subzones within zones since Horii appears to have taking his inspiration for DQ IX from XI, sans the MMO part.
This will be interesting.
xhadoukenx said:HAY GUYS WATS GOIN ON IN HARE?
dbish said:My thoughts: Hey cool, I have a DS. Now what's this "Dragon Quest" thing that people keep rambling about?
In all seriousness though, as a limited RPG player (Chrono series, FFVII, and I'm working my way toward the end of FFVI) should I be excited about this? Or is it very "old school"?
Obviously he isn't a troll, Deku is the only one claiming that. Sorry, I just don't buy into doom & gloom self destruct posts. Too melodramatic and self serving no matter how logical the progression appears. It was great to read though.Amir0x said:The conclusion is certainly up for debate, but I think he has a very intelligent clear line of progression and it's logical (in the context of his point of view) that he'd have this sort of fear. He is no troll, and, he likes certain things.
Ahh ok, I was under that impression because of the drastic price cut so soon after release. DQVIII is awesome, deserves to do better here in the US. Maybe pack in a DVD movie of FFXIII with the release of DQIX?Amir0x said:It was the best selling DQ game of all time in America, IIRC, which is certainly not a bomb - by now it has to be at 500,000k since it dropped to $20 (it was at 400k by like the end of December 2005).
Rocket Slime sold like shit, and I'm pretty sure DQIX is gonna do pretty poorly here too - if for no other reason, because it doesn't have a demo of the next big FF game.
They've got me interested so far, and I've never really felt the urge to play DQ before.Magicpaint said:Well, they might lose a few, but then again might also gain a few. Online coop alone should guarantee that.
*shakes fist angrily*jarrod said:Well actually....
:lol
And you! You're on my PS3 friend's list... I THOUGHT YOU WERE MY FRIEND!Y2Kevbug11 said:Yeah that didn't make sense to me either. lol.
IGN said:Those who are worrying about Dragon Quest losing its charm as a single player game needn't. You won't have to play the game with others. "We'd like to make an epic title that can be fully enjoyed when playing alone," said Horii. "I can't discuss the game content yet, but the fact that we attached IX to it means that we'll be making a game of the appropriate level."
Diablos said:Magicpaint: But that remains to be seen. They had a sure, even if slow and steady, gain of DQ fans here. Now it's uncertain. Handhelds don't have as much appeal here as consoles do. This is not Japan.
TekunoRobby said:Obviously he isn't a troll, Deku is the only one claiming that. Sorry, I just don't buy into doom & gloom self destruct posts. Too melodramatic and self serving no matter how logical the progression appears. It was great to read though.
Diablos said:I'm not underestimating the appeal of handhelds, but do you really think you're going to see a mirror image of Japan here in the US or in Europe? Come on error.
Amir0x said:wait are you implying dark10x is a troll? Deku, you are such a ****ing hypocrite.
Diablos said:Is it my loss though? I don't enjoy handhelds so I don't really feel like I'm missing out. I think S-E could lose a lot of new fans, and probably will. I can't be the only person who bought DQ8 for the FF12 demo, only to find I actually enjoyed DQ8 and nearly forgot about the stupid demo.
When did this turn into DQ WW sales/appeal discussion thread. I'm talking about Japan and DQ/RPG fans the world over. Obviously, Dragon WARRIOR isn't the franchise Final Fantasy is outside Japan, but if everyone believed that, this wouldn't be a 4800+ post thread. It's only this huge because a bunch of people thought it was important enough to cry/celebrate about.I'm not underestimating the appeal of handhelds, but do you really think you're going to see a mirror image of Japan here in the US or in Europe? Come on error.
That's a huge generalization. Horii wanted to make something different. It's his game, and the announced features are actually new and not doable on a PS2 and it will reach a console with a massive installed base. It's fairly typical DQ product to me.jrpg devs are backing themselves into a corner by dumping console RPG's onto handhelds if they are forgetting that it may not catch on as well in the west. You say they don't care about us, but I think they do whenever we buy their games.
it's up to SE USA tho, FF12 had an amazing marketing campaing. now plz do the same with DQ9 market it for kids like in Japan. the DQ8 marketing campaing was so bad "oh look it's popular in japan! and hey hey hey it's includes the FF12 DEMO!" that aint gonna cut it this time.TekunoRobby said:I just hope the US DS fanbase goes nuts over this game. The best opportunity DQ ever had* was when it was released with fantastic graphics and on the PS2 (and packed with an FFXII demo). It'll do amazingly well in Japan, not an issue at all. I just hope it'll garner a big following here as well.
*Aside from being given away for free from Nintendo Power
LevelNth said:I'm so very proud of all the Level-5 love exuded in this thread. Sometimes you guys just... just make me so happy. *wipes tear*
...
Though some of you:
*shakes fist angrily*
And you! You're on my PS3 friend's list... I THOUGHT YOU WERE MY FRIEND!
TekunoRobby said:What the PS3 will lack in Dragon Quest it will make up in other fantastic RPG IPs. That black hole will be quickly filled by other companies who recognize a golden opportunity to work on a potentially popular platform with only one juggernaut franchise.
TekunoRobby said:I'm trying to be optimistic here, work with me.
But not a bigger deal.Dave Long said:Seriously dude. Times have changed. Handhelds are just as big a deal as the home consoles.
Diablos said:But not a bigger deal.
I know this is an older post, but I really love that scene from Indy.Nameless said:Seriously... DS vs. PSP war in the last several hours:
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Diablos said:I don't want a Wii, but if DQ9 was announced for it, that may have changed my mind! Instead, S-E is dumping a bunch of console RPG's onto a handheld.