CornBurrito
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I believe you are a silencer. I don't believe you are town. Or I am not sure anyway.
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Election 2016 [Mafia] | Everlasting GOPstoppers
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I believe you are a silencer. I don't believe you are town. Or I am not sure anyway.
Blargonaut
Banned
Okay, okay, wait.
5 remain.
SalvaPot
CornBurrito
Blargonaut
*Splinter
Fireblend
I want to get one thing straight; I'm what seems to be the last GOP Loser, apparently surrounded by no less than 4 power roles (!):
- 1 of which is 50% confirmed; SalvaPot was proven to NOT be able to hammer the vote. And, earlier in the game, SalvaPot claimed responsibility for Sorian the Doctor's death, saying that Sorian visited him to protect him, but that he unfortunately killed him due to his alleged passive uncontrollable RNG 50/50-chance Veteran 3-shot power
- 1 of which is confirmed to exist, but which Fireblend only CLAIMED to be; Fireblend claimed to be the Silencer who silenced cabot, but keep in mind he hasn't proven this at all
- *Splinter claimed to have a 2-shot ability to request NK-immunity
- CornBurrito claimed to be a 1-shot Vigilante and took credit for BSP's death. I thought this would be the final double kill, but then another one happens tonight?!
Who do I believe?
5 remain.
SalvaPot
CornBurrito
Blargonaut
*Splinter
Fireblend
I want to get one thing straight; I'm what seems to be the last GOP Loser, apparently surrounded by no less than 4 power roles (!):
- 1 of which is 50% confirmed; SalvaPot was proven to NOT be able to hammer the vote. And, earlier in the game, SalvaPot claimed responsibility for Sorian the Doctor's death, saying that Sorian visited him to protect him, but that he unfortunately killed him due to his alleged passive uncontrollable RNG 50/50-chance Veteran 3-shot power
- 1 of which is confirmed to exist, but which Fireblend only CLAIMED to be; Fireblend claimed to be the Silencer who silenced cabot, but keep in mind he hasn't proven this at all
- *Splinter claimed to have a 2-shot ability to request NK-immunity
- CornBurrito claimed to be a 1-shot Vigilante and took credit for BSP's death. I thought this would be the final double kill, but then another one happens tonight?!
Who do I believe?
We have 4 scenarios of how both kills are possible.
Scenario 1: One Scum player made both kills.
There is only one scum left and is able to do his regular kill and an extra ability kill.
Scenario 2: Two scum players did both kills.
Similar to the one above, only made the kills are made by both.
Scenario 3: A Scum and a Neutral did one kill each.
Possible, but unlikely since I really don´t think there is a neutral this late in the game.
Impossible scenario:
Scenario 4: One/Two scums and a Vigilante did one kill each.
This one makes no sense because BOTH players that died were confirmed town.
Scenario 5: Two scums and a Neutral did one kill each.
Again impossible since that will put town in a impossible to win situation.
I said it before, but we have to assume scenario #2 because in that scenario a mislynch makes us lose the game.
CornBurrito
Member
Scenario 4 isn't impossible Salva. A neutral wouldn't have to aim for scum this late in the game would they?
If there is 1 neutral 1 scum 3 town. If we mislynch it becomes 1 neutral 1 scum 1 town. Then neutral needs to just kill scum while scum kills town. Or if neutral and scum target town, it ends in a draw right?
If there is 1 neutral 1 scum 3 town. If we mislynch it becomes 1 neutral 1 scum 1 town. Then neutral needs to just kill scum while scum kills town. Or if neutral and scum target town, it ends in a draw right?
I think cornburrito and blargonaut are our last mafia players. Blarg vote and lack of response is making me think this is likely, I´ll have to read more in their interactions both I think is really likely this is the case.
I was thinking about corn´s role and he claimed to have a vigilante role, so he did kill bsp, but maybe he lied about the amount of shots. Based on the scenario above if he did lie but was town-aligned, he would have not killed either cabot or kalor, he would have targeted any other player. So if he lied about his alignment and killed any of them... he is scum.
But then, there is still the problem of multiple secondary kills in a mafia player, that seems a bit OP.
I was thinking about corn´s role and he claimed to have a vigilante role, so he did kill bsp, but maybe he lied about the amount of shots. Based on the scenario above if he did lie but was town-aligned, he would have not killed either cabot or kalor, he would have targeted any other player. So if he lied about his alignment and killed any of them... he is scum.
But then, there is still the problem of multiple secondary kills in a mafia player, that seems a bit OP.
Scenario 4 says a scum and a vigilante (Town) did one kill each. What scenario are you referring to?
CornBurrito
Member
Oh I misread. I thought you meant scum and SK.
Blargonaut
Banned
You're flat-out wrong, Salva. I claimed Jeb Bush and that's the truth.
My apologies if I've been a bit distant and reckless, but I'm trying to fully grasp being surrounded by killers atm
My apologies if I've been a bit distant and reckless, but I'm trying to fully grasp being surrounded by killers atm
CornBurrito
Member
The problem is everyone has a candidate name now except Salva and I. That means if you, Fire, or Splinter are scum then scum may actually have gotten role names to use.
Though Fire and Splinter claimed so late they could have picked people by process of elimination.
Scum and SK is Scenario 3, in that scenario you and me are the main suspects.
CornBurrito
Member
Wait Fire doesn't have a candidate name either. He has some ex-CEO?
I can understand Ron Paul (Salva) and Roger Ailes. But why an ex-CEO? Were they notable?
I can understand Ron Paul (Salva) and Roger Ailes. But why an ex-CEO? Were they notable?
What? Carly Fiorina is a current GOP candidate.
CornBurrito
Member
My political accumen is showing. That's what I get when I know my vote is probably going to be Sanders.
Carly Fiorina, a terrible CEO, a terrible-er potential President.
CornBurrito
Member
I didn't. I had better things to do. Like masturbate.
CornBurrito
Member
I just googled the woman. 2/10 would NOT vote for.
Hmm... if it has stayed there this long one of you is probably scum, right? Again,
*Splinter is scum & Blarg is town:
- This means scum #2 could be waiting for someone else to vote for corn and hammer him, immediately winning the game.
*Splinter is town & Blarg is town too:
- Scum could win the game right now if they both vote for Blarg, ending the day.
*Splinter is town & Blarg is scum:
- This also explains why scum isn't hammering the vote.
*Splinter is scum & Blarg is scum:
- ??????? *Splinter is maybe trying to confuse us to make us think one of the above scenarios is correct when in reality both are scum.
I think scenario #1 and #3 are the likeliest ones, but who the hell knows.
*Splinter is scum & Blarg is town:
- This means scum #2 could be waiting for someone else to vote for corn and hammer him, immediately winning the game.
*Splinter is town & Blarg is town too:
- Scum could win the game right now if they both vote for Blarg, ending the day.
*Splinter is town & Blarg is scum:
- This also explains why scum isn't hammering the vote.
*Splinter is scum & Blarg is scum:
- ??????? *Splinter is maybe trying to confuse us to make us think one of the above scenarios is correct when in reality both are scum.
I think scenario #1 and #3 are the likeliest ones, but who the hell knows.
CornBurrito
Member
So many ducking possibilities. I don't know what to ducking do 
I already gave you the answer for #4
Blarg is scum & Corn is scum:
They are baiting a counter vote (someone voting for a player other than they), and then they both hammer the vote on that innocent player.
Blargonaut
Banned
I'm not scum. I'm typing up some analyses right now, so back the f**k up.
CornBurrito
Member
What if goddamm everyone is scum.
CornBurrito
Member
Lol it gave me your name.
This is amazing.
Blargonaut
Banned
And if y'all have noticed, I'm the only one here not claiming to be some power-tripping angst monster. I'm the last Ordinary Townsfolk left. If one of you is a Loser like I am, then please, kindly tell me so I can recite to you the Will Smith Shrek monologue because I'm in some serious Hollywood adaptation I Am Legend filth right now
So lets go through what has happened today regarding votes.
Blarg voted corn
Nothing happened
Splinter voted blarg.
Splinter unvotes instantly.
Blargonaut votes splinter
Splinter votes blargonaut again.
Blargonaut unvotes. For some reason he unvotes fire twice, even if he never voted for him.
Nothing happened
Blarg votes splinter
nothing happened
Blarg unvotes splinter
So, based on this:
-Me and Fire did not get any votes on us.
-Blarg has voted for Corn and Splinter, once corn, twice splinter.
-Splinter has kept his vote on Blarg all along.
Its clear all of us is here playing, so mafia can hammer the vote easily if there are still two scum left.
I want to explain what this mean in my next post.
Blarg voted corn
Nothing happened
Splinter voted blarg.
Splinter unvotes instantly.
Blargonaut votes splinter
Splinter votes blargonaut again.
Blargonaut unvotes. For some reason he unvotes fire twice, even if he never voted for him.
Nothing happened
Blarg votes splinter
nothing happened
Blarg unvotes splinter
So, based on this:
-Me and Fire did not get any votes on us.
-Blarg has voted for Corn and Splinter, once corn, twice splinter.
-Splinter has kept his vote on Blarg all along.
Its clear all of us is here playing, so mafia can hammer the vote easily if there are still two scum left.
I want to explain what this mean in my next post.
Let´s go through what happened and why:
So Blarg did a first vote.
If he is town: This is dumb, because if he had picked wrong, scum had enough time to hammer. But blarg been blarg we could justify he didn´t know what he was doing. But in the case he has voted a player that is actually scum (Corn) then scum can´t hammer because corn would be a scum player.
If he is scum, this is smart, because if someone follows his lynch he can get a town lynched and win.
So if Corn is a blarg teammate, and someone else had voted for corn, blarg could remove his vote and say he didn´t want to turbo him. If corn was town, he would have won.
So Blarg did a first vote.
If he is town: This is dumb, because if he had picked wrong, scum had enough time to hammer. But blarg been blarg we could justify he didn´t know what he was doing. But in the case he has voted a player that is actually scum (Corn) then scum can´t hammer because corn would be a scum player.
If he is scum, this is smart, because if someone follows his lynch he can get a town lynched and win.
So if Corn is a blarg teammate, and someone else had voted for corn, blarg could remove his vote and say he didn´t want to turbo him. If corn was town, he would have won.
Now, the Splinter vote. For a moment there Splinter voted Blargonaut. And a hammer didn´t happen, again. Meanwhile Blarg voted Splinter. That means, for a while there, we had two votes at the same time, Blarg and Splinter.
Neither was hammered by scum because they couldn´t.
Lets see scenarios of why this is.
Blarg and Splinter are town:
Almost impossible, the fact that both have a vote means scum could have turbo either of them. That means at least one of them is scum. Only way it makes sense is if there is only 1 scum left.
Blarg is scum, Splinter is town.
Blarg has a vote on splinter, so they need one more to hammer.
Blarg is town, Splinter is scum.
Splinter has a vote on blarg, so they need one more to hammer.
Both are scum. That means corn is town.
Possible, since they could be waiting for someone to vote someone else and then hammer that vote.
So lets add corn to the mix.
Blarg and Corn are scum, Splinter is town.
Blarg votes corn as a bait, splinter instead of taking the bait votes blarg, plan gets compromised.
Corn and Splinter are scum, Blarg is town.
Blarg gets lucky and votes corn, splinter takes heat off corn by voting blarg.
We can deduce from this that we have, for sure, one scum between this three.
Neither was hammered by scum because they couldn´t.
Lets see scenarios of why this is.
Blarg and Splinter are town:
Almost impossible, the fact that both have a vote means scum could have turbo either of them. That means at least one of them is scum. Only way it makes sense is if there is only 1 scum left.
Blarg is scum, Splinter is town.
Blarg has a vote on splinter, so they need one more to hammer.
Blarg is town, Splinter is scum.
Splinter has a vote on blarg, so they need one more to hammer.
Both are scum. That means corn is town.
Possible, since they could be waiting for someone to vote someone else and then hammer that vote.
So lets add corn to the mix.
Blarg and Corn are scum, Splinter is town.
Blarg votes corn as a bait, splinter instead of taking the bait votes blarg, plan gets compromised.
Corn and Splinter are scum, Blarg is town.
Blarg gets lucky and votes corn, splinter takes heat off corn by voting blarg.
We can deduce from this that we have, for sure, one scum between this three.
A few more scenarios assuming only one of them is scum.
All three are town.
Impossible, if all three were town the day would have ended by now, no questions.
Blarg is scum, corn and splinter are town
Blarg voted corn and later splinter with the hope that someone will follow and another player (Either me or fire) would hammer.
Corn is scum, splinter and blarg are town.
Impossible. Blarg got lucky with his vote on him, but when blarg removed the vote and splinter voted for blarg, corn and his teammate could have hammered.
Splinter is scum, corn and blarg are town.
Possible, Splinter takes the chance to vote blargonaut and waits for someone to vote for him, then the teammate hammers.
All three are town.
Impossible, if all three were town the day would have ended by now, no questions.
Blarg is scum, corn and splinter are town
Blarg voted corn and later splinter with the hope that someone will follow and another player (Either me or fire) would hammer.
Corn is scum, splinter and blarg are town.
Impossible. Blarg got lucky with his vote on him, but when blarg removed the vote and splinter voted for blarg, corn and his teammate could have hammered.
Splinter is scum, corn and blarg are town.
Possible, Splinter takes the chance to vote blargonaut and waits for someone to vote for him, then the teammate hammers.
Yes, if blarg is scum and corn is town, then another vote by a townie would have let him the teammate hammer for a scum win.
CornBurrito
Member
The two fireblend unvotes were weird. I almost want to think he was trying to trick people into thinking there was a vote on fireblend, and see if people would try to hammer fireblend.
I thought that too.
In this situation, we would have hammered Corn? It's the same as the "Corn is scum, Splinter and Blarg are town situation"
Apart from that it makes sense. So out of us three, it's either:
1) Blarg
2) Me and Blarg
3) Corn and Blarg
4) Me and Corn
Pretty much.
I'm going to bed, please don't vote for anyone (except Blarg)
Blargonaut
Banned
Wait, what? I don't understand this.
So you're saying that if CornBurrito,*Splinter and I are all GOP, then the Day would have ended by now? How?
Ourob said:
The GOP wins when all of the Electorate are eliminated, not when they outnumber them.
Between the 5 of us left, if there's 3 GOP and 2 Electorate left, GOP doesn't automatically win.
Hyperactivity said:
It's the Electorate that wins by numbers, by either equaling to or outnumbering GOP.
If all three of you are GOP, that means me and Fire are scum. And we have had plenty of opportunities to hammer the vote, me voting first and fire voting second, since again I can´t hammer the vote, remember?
Since we didn´t take the obvious chance to hammer the vote and win, that means one of you 3 has to be Electorate, no matter what.
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