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Gawker (Kotaku parent) Files for Bankruptcy Protection, Ziff Davis (IGN) wants to buy

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Lunar15

Member
I have no idea what a Ziff Davis run Gawker Media looks like. They seem so diametrically opposed in terms of how they view content and what's appropriate.
 

KingKong

Member
Hopefully filing for Chapter 11 means that most can keep their jobs there. I know they're polarizing but they've put out so much of my favorite writing (Schreier, Narcisse, and Hamilton at Kotaku especially but I really do love Jalopnik and Jezebel too) over the last few years.

I'll never understand where that $140m figure came from. Blows my mind when Erin Andrews only ended up with $6m.

Iirc its potential earnings he lost
 
It's a shame that people are likely to lose jobs over this.... But there's few websites/organisations that I'd classify as evil. And gawker Is one of them. Good riddance
 

NateDrake

Member
I don't feel bad for the upper management of Gawker that put the company in this position. They played a dangerous game and lost. They outed people, posted the Hogan video, and conducted themselves in a poor fashion.

I feel bad for those who work for the company and had nothing to do with the events that led to this. They are the victims here.
 

Wereroku

Member
So any union specialists have a clue how this will affect everything? I assume to get the employees they would have to accept the union contract as well but I don't know the in's and out's of that.
 

Takao

Banned
I made the mistake of reading a Kotaku article a few weeks back. It was on a developer closure and I was just curious to know if they had anymore info. Instead, I was greeted to a picture of some soccer players getting fucked as one of their featured sister site articles. Clearly that's what I wanted to see on a video game website ...

Not every person who works for a Gawker outlet is terrible, but Gawker is a terrible outlet.
 

KJRS_1993

Member
I'm not 100% on Kotaku, but there are a couple of guys who write genuinely excellent articles on it so I'm gutted that they might be in trouble. I'd happily pay to read their work elsewhere if it came to it.
 
As much crap articles they have produced, they have also produced A LOT of good work. Work that other media outlets grabbed and thus allowed to gain greater exposure and more accountability by those reported on.
 

ItsTheNew

I believe any game made before 1997 is "essentially cave man art."
Well, they did this to themselves releasing and refusing to take down someone's sex tape, but condemning the fappening (they were both bad and shouldn't have been posted all over the place!). Sucks for all those editors.
 

mStudios

Member
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I don't feel bad for the upper management of Gawker that put the company in this position. They played a dangerous game and lost. They outed people, posted the Hogan video, and conducted themselves in a poor fashion.

I feel bad for those who work for the company and had nothing to do with the events that led to this. They are the victims here.

Exactly how I feel. Honestly Gawker has done tons of stuff I don't agree with in general but there are quite a few good employees at their various websites.
 

L Thammy

Member
I made the mistake of reading a Kotaku article a few weeks back. It was on a developer closure and I was just curious to know if they had anymore info. Instead, I was greeted to a picture of some soccer players getting fucked as one of their featured sister site articles. Clearly that's what I wanted to see on a video game website ...

Not every person who works for a Gawker outlet is terrible, but Gawker is a terrible outlet.

Was it one of the studios that makes FIFA?
 

Velkyn

Member
As long as he buries Kotaku, I am fine with it... I really dislike that site.

Dude, not cool. There are actual people who work at that site that have families and need that income to survive.

What possible reason could you have to dislike the site besides freeze peaches and muh ethics?
 

sflufan

Banned
So hold on. If they file for bankruptcy and another company buys Gawker, doesn't the new company end up with the bill?

If the bankruptcy results in a complete restructure of the company, then all debts are discharged and the buyer starts with a clean slate.
 

BiggNife

Member
I don't feel bad for the upper management of Gawker that put the company in this position. They played a dangerous game and lost. They outed people, posted the Hogan video, and conducted themselves in a poor fashion.

I feel bad for those who work for the company and had nothing to do with the events that led to this. They are the victims here.

Yuuuuuuuuup.

It really, REALLY sucks that talented, good natured people like Klepek and Schreirer could get fucked over because Denton and Thiel are acting like literal children.
 

Kadin

Member
Man I bet they're really kicking themselves for publishing that article.
I'm a tad bit out of the loop on how that all played out. Who, in the end, made the final decision to publish the story? Was that something the author simply did or was it proven that it was approved by someone higher like Denton?
 

Draxal

Member
I don't feel bad for the upper management of Gawker that put the company in this position. They played a dangerous game and lost. They outed people, posted the Hogan video, and conducted themselves in a poor fashion.

I feel bad for those who work for the company and had nothing to do with the events that led to this. They are the victims here.

Honestly, asides from Klepek (who wisely realized that the others were dying on a hill), the way the staff acted when Nick Denton removed an article (which outed somebody) left a very bad taste in my mouth.

edit. Some background http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1082026
 

kenta

Has no PEINS
I have a feeling, with his contacts in the industry, he will be okay.

There is plenty of nepotism that is rampant in the games and games media industry.
I have no doubt that he'll be okay, he's a national treasure. I'm just saying the timing is unfortunate
 
I'm a tad bit out of the loop on how that all played out. Who, in the end, made the final decision to publish the story? Was that something the author simply did or was it proven that it was approved by someone higher like Denton?
surely an editor/editor in chief decides what gets published, right?
 

Velkyn

Member
I have a feeling, with his contacts in the industry, he will be okay.

There is plenty of nepotism that is rampant in the games and games media industry.

Look I was/am a games media industry hopeful who never got a "break" besides a year writing for RPGamer, and I don't think it's more about nepotism than other industries out there. No matter where you go, a job will be more about networking and who you know than skillset.
 
I don't feel bad for the upper management of Gawker that put the company in this position. They played a dangerous game and lost. They outed people, posted the Hogan video, and conducted themselves in a poor fashion.

I feel bad for those who work for the company and had nothing to do with the events that led to this. They are the victims here.
Absolutely agree with this. That said, I think we saw a significant amount of "boots on the ground" employees either defending management or outright supporting their beliefs

I absolutely cannot celebrate people losing jobs. I can celebrate the downfall of a toxic culture, however, and I hope its failure leads to fewer instances in the future
 
Wow so IGN might end up owning Kotaku? That's depressing :-(

It's especially weird since they're pretty much the embodiment of two complete opposite ends of the gaming journalism spectrum, with IGN being the symbol of "glorified corporate mouthpiece" journalism while Kotaku is the symbol of "press sneak fuck" journalism. Kinda wonder if that's going to result in Kotaku having to be less press sneak fuck-ey, and if the press sneak fucks will bail over it.

Not every person who works for a Gawker outlet is terrible, but Gawker is a terrible outlet.

Pretty much. There are some good people there doing good work, but that doesn't excuse the bullshit, nor does it mean that the company doesn't deserve the punishment they got (regardless of who funded the lawsuit and why.)
 

MogCakes

Member
Kotaku will be fine. The smaller Gawker sites will probably also be fine. Gawker will most likely still exist. The person who really got screwed over is Nick Denton.
 

jacobeid

Banned
Hopefully filing for Chapter 11 means that most can keep their jobs there. I know they're polarizing but they've put out so much of my favorite writing (Schreier, Narcisse, and Hamilton at Kotaku especially but I really do love Jalopnik and Jezebel too) over the last few years.

I'll never understand where that $140m figure came from. Blows my mind when Erin Andrews only ended up with $6m.

Lost wages from advertising deals which were significantly more than Erin Andrews. That being said that was only $55m of the 140.....$60m was for emotional distress so I'm not sure how Andrews couldn't get more than $6m.
 
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