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Mass Effect 2 pre-E3 video hits tomorrow

SPEA

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Liara T'Soni said:
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neojubei

Will drop pants for Sony.
I am so excited for ME2 but I think the whole cast needs to be changed. Shepard should have a new crew with an executive officer that is more than a NPC. Maybe put a Salerian (sp?) on the crew with a new ship, maybe a new one developed by the Asari. I also think the ship should have some personality like Galactia, Enterprise, etc. There should more places to explore in the ship and have an interactive computer, for example if you need info on a certain race or planet instead of reading text have the computer talk to you and show 3-D holographic images. Better yet have the Ship A.I. be a hologram you can customized like you can with Shepard.
 
PjotrStroganov said:
How would a game+ even work? It would take some serious rebalancing right?

Likely you would start at basic stats but maybe carry over a weapon/skill proficiency or two? Plus the decisions you made in the first might carry over.
 

Ether_Snake

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PjotrStroganov said:
How would a game+ even work? It would take some serious rebalancing right?

I'm guessing you start as "powerful" as at the end of ME1 regardless of New Game + or not.
 
I think I'll create a new male Shepard save after I'm done with Panzer Dragoon Saga and Persona 3: FES.

Gotta play this on my new TV and sound system. :D
 

Skilotonn

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beermonkey@tehbias said:
Who the fuck kills Wrex in their definitive savefile?

Yeah, I'd imagine doing it just to see what would happen, but to keep it that way? Nah - dude's too tough and too badass to kill off...

And damnit, I think the last straw just broke, I'm going to recollect my Mass Effect from a friend I lent it to - he had his time to finish it, he didn't yet, and I'm jonesing hard to play it again right now...
 

Killthee

helped a brotha out on multiple separate occasions!
birdman said:
Anyone who doesn't roll with at least Garrus is a fool.
Garrus is the second most boring character in the game. My playthrough with him to get the achievement was a such a drag. Tali all the way.
 

Vagabundo

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I wasn't sure how to save Wrex and wasn't about to start fucking about with multiple save files. I never go back, only forward. I didn't have enough in Diplomacy to unlock the blue options.

And Garrus keeps getting knocked out on me during a fight. He's always the first to go, maybe I needed to find better armour for him.
 

Nozdeuce

If there was an Official MGO Community Leader, I'd be it
I had no problem killing off Wrex, I'd gladly trade him for a certain meatbag smoking assassination droid.
 

Killthee

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Vagabundo said:
I wasn't sure how to save Wrex and wasn't about to start fucking about with multiple save files. I never go back, only forward. I didn't have enough in Diplomacy to unlock the blue options.

And Garrus keeps getting knocked out on me during a fight. He's always the first to go, maybe I needed to find better armour for him.
Wrex and Garrus each have a sidequest that you can unlock by talking to them in the Normandy during the game. If you complete Wrex's quest (retrieving family heirloom armor from a collector) he'll easily back down during the standoff even if your character doesn't have a high charm skill.
 

Foil

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Skilotonn said:
And damnit, I think the last straw just broke, I'm going to recollect my Mass Effect from a friend I lent it to - he had his time to finish it, he didn't yet, and I'm jonesing hard to play it again right now...

Yeah this thread and the new trailer has made me start a new Mass Effect character today. Who knows how many more playthroughs I'll manage from now till Spring 2010. Damn that's going to be a long painful wait...
 

HK-47

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Nozdeuce said:
I had no problem killing off Wrex, I'd gladly trade him for a certain meatbag smoking assassination droid.

Wrex was better than Canderous in KotOR 1, which is of the character archetype, the merc with a gruff voice and stories. He's more interesting than any character not name Jolee Bindo or HK-47 in KotOR, though his reason for being on an Alliance vessel in thin at best.
 

Nirolak

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HK-47 said:
Wrex was better than Canderous in KotOR 1, which is of the character archetype, the merc with a gruff voice and stories. He's more interesting than any character not name Jolee Bindo or HK-47 in KotOR, though his reason for being on an Alliance vessel in thin at best.
Speaking of Wrex's stories, I'd like to be able to have
that awesome sounding merc friend/competitor Wrex had as a crew member.
 

Skilotonn

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Foil said:
Yeah this thread and the new trailer has made me start a new Mass Effect character today. Who knows how many more playthroughs I'll manage from now till Spring 2010. Damn that's going to be a long painful wait...

I haven't even made a female character yet, so that's practically gonna be a whole new experience for me again too...
 

HK-47

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Skilotonn said:
I haven't even made a female character yet, so that's practically gonna be a whole new experience for me again too...

What new experience? Yeah its Jennifer Hale, but gender hardly affects anything outside of the worst part of the game.
 

HK-47

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Nirolak said:
Speaking of Wrex's stories, I'd like to be able to have
that awesome sounding merc friend/competitor Wrex had as a crew member.

Aleena the asari commando?
 
HK-47 said:
What new experience? Yeah its Jennifer Hale, but gender hardly affects anything outside of the worst part of the game.

He'll get to experience ME with a character that doesn't have subpar voice acting. It makes a difference.
 

Nozdeuce

If there was an Official MGO Community Leader, I'd be it
HK-47 said:
Wrex was better than Canderous in KotOR 1, which is of the character archetype, the merc with a gruff voice and stories. He's more interesting than any character not name Jolee Bindo or HK-47 in KotOR, though his reason for being on an Alliance vessel in thin at best.
I agree, I appreciate that Wrex's background was more than simply the most hardcore soldier who ever soldiered and did hardcore soldiery things like Canderous' was. I just miss HK, I feel that his was a dynamic that was missing from ME1, a sort of cheerleader for the Renegade. Thanks for mentioning Bindo, I'll have to look up his backstory, I don't remember much of it.
 

Skilotonn

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HK-47 said:
What new experience? Yeah its Jennifer Hale, but gender hardly affects anything outside of the worst part of the game.

Going through with a difference sex & voice would be different enough for me since all of my playthrough time was with a male character...

Sure it's the same "Shephard" except with female lines, but still...

Ezenzer said:
He'll get to experience ME with a character that doesn't have subpar voice acting. It makes a difference.

Sub-par? Come on now.

He's a soldier - how many ranges is he supposed to give in voice acting?
 

FrankT

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Pre-E3 2009: Mass Effect 2 -- The Choices You Made
The choices you made in the first game affect the entire trilogy.
by Hilary Goldstein

May 18, 2009 - Mass Effect 2 is one of the most anticipated games of E3. And with good reason. The original was an amazing role-playing game. One of the best elements of the original was the numerous choices you made. Who knew those decisions would have such a major impact on Mass Effect 2 and 3? We spoke with Mass Effect 2 Producer Casey Hudson, who assured us that every choice we made in the previous game matters for the sequel.

"We wanted to tell an interactive story over the course of three games," Hudson said. "So your choices don't just affect what's happening in the story, they affect all that's happening in the first game and really start impacting the world you experience in Mass Effect 2. And by Mass Effect 3 you'll see things really diverging and end up in completely different kinds of conclusions to the entire trilogy."

As evidenced by the debut trailer, the story gets a bit grim in the sequel. "We look at each game in the Mass Effect trilogy as a three-act story," Hudson said as he explained the darker nature of Mass Effect 2. "But then as a trilogy we have our three acts. So Mass Effect 2 is the dark act. It's an opportunity to really explore the tougher, more brutal parts of the universe. They say in the first act you put a guy in the tree, in the second act you throw rocks at him, and in the third act you get him down. That's the fun of the second story is that now we know who these characters are, we know what the situation is and we can really beat up the hero of this story and take you to the most brutal parts of the Mass Effect universe... In terms of Commander Shepard's death... we're going to be showing what that means at E3 and why it's fundamental to what Mass Effect 2 is all about."

Hudson concedes that the original Mass Effect wasn't exactly a cheery tale. "In the first game, it definitely introduces a lot of really dark ideas. That we think we're living a peaceful life, but all civilization in the galaxy is really a crop that has been seeded by a much more powerful force and they're going to come and harvest us. That's really dark. But you just get a peek into it in Mass Effect 1. In Mass Effect 2, it's about really exposing that and letting you see it and letting you see how scary that would be when it's on the scale we're talking about."

If you have a save for Mass Effect 1, it will affect many aspects when you play the sequel. "The beginning of Mass Effect 2 starts with things that are different for your playthrough if you ended Mass Effect 1 in one way versus another," Hudson explained. "The endings, the bigger choices you made about characters who lived or died, you're going to see those differences in your story. And that's the real fun of playing from your saved game from Mass Effect 1 into Mass Effect 2 is that those choices you made are there. It's the world the way you left it."

Hudson wouldn't cite any specific examples of decisions, but spoke vaguely about how your past choices will affect the events of Mass Effect 2. "[Let's say] in Mass Effect 1, you decided that a really important character is going to die. In Mass Effect 2, you may or may not see that character alive, depending on what that choice was. If you want to see how that would be different, you would have to go back to Mass Effect 1, make a different choice and then bring that save into Mass Effect 2 to see how it affects the world." More important than a single character, at one point in the first Mass Effect, you chose whether or not to save an entire race from extinction. That is sure to have a profound affect in the sequel. "The fun for players is that it's not just a branching story, it's a multi-dimensional story and then there is branching within that. If you have not played Mass Effect 1, you can jump into Mass Effect 2 and it's an excellent entry point."

Take a behind-the-scenes look at Mass Effect 2.
While it's a bit premature for Hudson to give too many specific gameplay improvements, he did touch on one area BioWare is giving particular attention. "[People] like exploring the galaxy so much, they wanted it to be richer. They wanted there to be more. When you go out and explore the galaxy, we've actually built in a lot more interactivity. The way you look at a planet, the way you find a place to land. And when you're out on the surface, [there's a] lot more interesting things to do. In Mass Effect 1, you would do a subplot and then things would terminate. In Mass Effect 2, everything you do really ties into the way things come into fruition in the end. If you do go off and explore the galaxy, you do a subplot, these things start to really matter to the people you are accumulating on your ship. As you get towards the end [of the game], your decisions really start to snowball."

One thing that won't be changing is the game's length. Expect Mass Effect 2 to be about as long as the original. Hudson promises that there will be more replayability this time around. "There are more choices and more paths that you can go out and diverge the story into," he said. And remember, the choices from Mass Effect 1 and 2 will carry into Mass Effect 3.

Be sure to keep an eye on IGN's E3 index for Mass Effect 2 news as it breaks.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/984/984307p1.html
 

squicken

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I need to go back and do a run through where I kill the Rachni, Wrex, the council, and Ashley.
I hate playing as a bad guy, but I want to have as many options available as I can for ME2 if they walk the walk with the hype.
 

Fowler

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In terms of Commander Shepard's death... we're going to be showing what that means at E3 and why it's fundamental to what Mass Effect 2 is all about.

Apologies if this has been said again and again -- but it seems to me the "Shepard's Death" is just the big set-up, right? The famous Commander Shepard is too famous to operate covertly anymore... so he fakes his death in order to go underground and explore the dark, tougher, "brutal side of the Mass Effect Universe". Right?
 

Rad Agast

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squicken said:
I need to go back and do a run through where I kill the Rachni, Wrex, the council, and Ashley.
I hate playing as a bad guy, but I want to have as many options available as I can for ME2 if they walk the walk with the hype.

I think you should spoiler that. I know it's been out for a good while but some people in this thread haven't played the game yet.

I really hope they deliver on the multiple choices/paths the series will take. I want to put my multiple saves to good use :D

Fowler said:
Apologies if this has been said again and again -- but it seems to me the "Shepard's Death" is just the big set-up, right? The famous Commander Shepard is too famous to operate covertly anymore... so he fakes his death in order to go underground and explore the dark, tougher, "brutal side of the Mass Effect Universe". Right?

That's one of the theories but in a recent interview last week (can't remember where I read it) Bioware mentioned that they read all the theories/speculations out there regarding Shepard and that none of them is correct so who knows.
 

VaLiancY

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JayDubya said:

She may not be racist but she's a bitch, if you talk to her in the Normandy after the major parts of the game, she talks about why Shepard gives Tali
(why does she hang out in the engine room and Quarians are nothing scavangers)
, Garrus and Wrex so much leeway around the ship.
 

Acid08

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Just finished the first KOTOR. Gonna play KOTOR2 then ME again. Goddamn I'm addicted to these types of games. It was my first playthrough on KOTOR btw and it's going to be my first for KOTOR2. I'm sad I waited so long to play them, I feel like would have liked them more if I had played them when they came out.
 

kmfdmpig

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Lots of good stuff in the IGN article, but one slight disappointment is:
One thing that won't be changing is the game's length. Expect Mass Effect 2 to be about as long as the original.

I'm the type that got every mineral deposit and killed everything possible, but still I wouldn't have minded the game being a bit longer (I beat it about 4-5 times, however, so it's not a matter of getting my money's worth) as a few more main story planets or at least better side mission planets would have made it go from my game of the generation to my game of the forever. :D
 

VaLiancY

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Rad Agast said:
A military personel who distrusts outsiders? Is that strange?

Well that's the great thing about Mass Effect, its open ended, open to interpretation and every choice is valid.
 

Pancakes

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Acid08 said:
Just finished the first KOTOR. Gonna play KOTOR2 then ME again. Goddamn I'm addicted to these types of games. It was my first playthrough on KOTOR btw and it's going to be my first for KOTOR2. I'm sad I waited so long to play them, I feel like would have liked them more if I had played them when they came out.

I would love to replay both KOTORs again if only the emulation on the 360 wasn't horrible :(. I barely made it through the first time.
 

VaLiancY

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Pankaks said:
I would love to replay both KOTORs again if only the emulation on the 360 wasn't horrible :(. I barely made it through the first time.

Is it still playable? Any bad hiccups? I'm about to borrow it from my friend because I like Star Wars and Western RPGs, though i'll still see myself enjoying it as long as it isn't game breaking with the compatibility.
 

Pancakes

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VaLiancY said:
Is it still playable? Any bad hiccups? I'm about to borrow it from my friend because I like Star Wars and Western RPGs, though i'll still see myself enjoying it as long as it isn't game breaking with the compatibility.

It's playable I guess but expect a couple frame drops in combat occasionally.

Usually after a slowdown the character you were controlling becomes stuck so you have to switch. Not a huge problem if you are with a group but there are some solo acts which can make things extremely frustrating.

My advice: Save very very frequently
Seriously, don't count on auto saves.

If you can get past all that, then prepare for one of the best games ever :D .
 
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