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I don't. Seems like an orchestrated thing.How come everything comes down to Isis anymore
I just don't know if i believe it
I don't. Seems like an orchestrated thing.How come everything comes down to Isis anymore
I just don't know if i believe it
There's a difference than between expressing your allegiance for ISIS, and actually being a part of the organization.
First attack of isis on American soil?
I'm wondering if this will finally budge Republicans into passing gun control legislation now that's it's been determined that ISIS is involved.
Probably not, if the NRA has any say.
I don't think ISIS will endorse an attack on a facility treating people with disabilities. If for no other reason than the bad PR.
please explain to me how you defeat an ideology
There's a difference than between expressing your allegiance for ISIS, and actually being a part of the organization.
I'm wondering if this will finally budge Republicans into passing gun control legislation now that's it's been determined that ISIS is involved.
Probably not, if the NRA has any say.
I don't think ISIS will endorse an attack on a facility treating people with disabilities. If for no other reason than the bad PR.
I don't think ISIS will endorse an attack on a facility treating people with disabilities. If for no other reason than the bad PR.
I don't think ISIS will endorse an attack on a facility treating people with disabilities. If for no other reason than the bad PR.
edit: also, do we know if any of the individuals killed were muslim?
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Are you familiar with ISIS?
I'm wondering if this will finally budge Republicans into passing gun control legislation now that's it's been determined that ISIS is involved.
Probably not, if the NRA has any say.
I'm not sure they planned this with ISIS or if they just were sympathizers for them.....
Is this a joke? ISIS and ISIS-affiliated groups use disabled children as suicide bombers according to UN reports.
You think tougher U.S. gun laws will make it harder for ISIS to arm cells with weapons that can kill people?
When the meme of Jihadism is no longer around. So, uhh... Not soon.
ISIS wants to kill you whether you bomb them or not.
What is this . . . if you pledge allegiance to ISIS, you're part of ISIS. Particularly if you and your radicalized wife stockpile assault weapons, bombs and handguns, are in contact with other known ISIS members, and then execute a coordinated attack killing 14 people.
Besides all of that, I'd love to know the criteria for being considered a member of the organization.
Yeah, 'he pledged to ISIS' doesn't mean that ISIS did even know about him. This is another terrifying thing. People being inspired by ISIS. It's worse because single operating terrorists are more difficult to catch than networks and people who regularly are in contact with them. And in a country like the USA where everyone can get weapons without question this is very very dangerous.
"The female suspect in the California gun attack pledged allegiance to the leader of the Islamic State (IS) group on Facebook, US media reported. Tashfeen Malik made the post under an account with a different name, US officials are quoted as saying."
"At this point we believe they were more self-radicalised and inspired by the group than actually told to do the shooting," the newspaper quoted an official as saying.
via BBC
So yeah, from what is known it can't be called an ISIS attack in itself.
I don't think ISIS will endorse an attack on a facility treating people with disabilities. If for no other reason than the bad PR.
edit: also, do we know if any of the individuals killed were muslim?
Did ISIS claim the attack? If not, I don't believe they are related. ISIS would brag themselves about it.
In one of a series of near-party-line procedural votes, the Senate by 54-45 blocked a proposal by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) that would have stopped people on the governments anti-terrorist no fly list from buying guns. Republican opponents said that the no-fly list includes too many errors to be used for preventing gun sales. By 50-48 the chamber also blocked a measure by Sens. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) and Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) to tighten the background-check system.
All Republicans voted to block the Feinstein measure except for Sen. Mark Kirk of Illinois, who faces a difficult reelection campaign next year in a heavily Democratic state. On the background-check measure, Kirk, Toomey and Republican Sens. John McCain of Arizona and Susan Collins of Maine voted with the Democrats.
On both measures, all Democrats were in favor except for Sen. Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota, who voted no, and Sen. Mark Warner of Virgina, who did not vote. A spokesman for Warner said he was unable to vote because of a prior commitment but would have supported both measures.
Jesus Christ no I didn't. Fuck.
I'm wondering if this will finally budge Republicans into passing gun control legislation now that's it's been determined that ISIS is involved.
Probably not, if the NRA has any say.
His wife was Pakistani and he went to Saudi Arabia to do umrah. Just visiting Saudi Arabia isn't a cause for suspicion, plenty of westerners go to Saudi for work and return to the West to resume their lives.When I heard his wife was from Saudi Arabia and he just came from there, I had a bad feeling.
But we keep supporting SA and giving them money, so...
His wife was Pakistani and he went to Saudi Arabia to do umrah. Just visiting Saudi Arabia isn't a cause for suspicion, plenty of westerners go to Saudi for work and return to the West to resume their lives.
His wife was Pakistani and he went to Saudi Arabia to do umrah. Just visiting Saudi Arabia isn't a cause for suspicion, plenty of westerners go to Saudi for work and return to the West to resume their lives.
Christian Nwadike, who worked with Farook for five years, told CBS that his co-worker had been different since he returned from Saudi Arabia.
"I think he married a terrorist," Nwadike said.
Oh, I know. That's why I would focus more on homeland defense than going into their territories guns blazing.
No, but that makes it more crazy in ways. If people with no connection to ISIS start committing atrocities in their name, it's going to be almost impossible to prevent these type of attacks.Did ISIS claim the attack? If not, I don't believe they are related. ISIS would brag themselves about it.
Pretty sure future travelers will be looked at with more scrutiny after this.
I don't believe that has been confirmed yet, has it? The furthest I've seen anyone go is to say that they had brief - non-concerning, as far as I can tell - contact with at least someone on a watch list.
The BBC and CNN are both reporting that the wife was engaging with ISIS on Facebook, albiet under a different name but that doesn't matter. She did.
No, but that makes it more crazy in ways. If people with no connection to ISIS start committing atrocities in their name, it's going to be almost impossible to prevent these type of attacks.
Oh Allah, we are seeing what is happening now in the country of the donkey, Obama. And it is an act of our partisans of the Islamic State. Even if not, we are going to see it very shortly, our brothers.
“We swear to Allah we will take vengeance even if it will take time, as our sheikhs said. The invasion of Paris won’t be the last one. We are coming to slaughter you. This is your fate, you infidels.
It seems that our fighters in America and our lone wolves started to act fulfilling the call of our Sheikh (Abu Mohammad) al-Adnani (Spokesman and senior official of Islamic State). We swear that we will repeat the same act that happened on 9-11. And as we grilled your bodies in Paris we swear to Allah that we will not rest until we shake you in the heart of Washington as well as in all the capitals of the infidels. We will invade Washington before invading Rome. Our explosives are on their way to you, you sons of infidels.
Three lions made us proud. They are still alive. California streets are full with soldiers with heavy weapons.
The Unites States is burning #America_Burning #Takbir
I feel that the best way to combat this would be stopping the spread of the ideology by combating them on social media, television, Al Jazeera, etc. Not necessarily positive messaging, just get them out of the public eye. Drop their websites, remove their propaganda, total blackout. Make them disappear from social media.
Groups like Anonymous have declared war on ISIS. Getting government organizations involved in a support role, working with other countries and these grass-roots "hacker" organizations could start making a dent on recruiting for extremist groups like ISIS and Al Queda, as well as identifying satellite cells, etc.
Prevent them from getting their message out and get their members out in the open. My 2 cents anyway.
Did ISIS claim the attack? If not, I don't believe they are related. ISIS would brag themselves about it.
Anonymous is a non-factor here.
Sadly true. So much shit happens and nothing changed.Not to mention that ISIS has at least publicly praised them already. I think the fact that they said "the three lions" or whatever it was is enough to say they didn't directly order it, but instead were happy about it happening and following the previous orders calling on folks to do things like this. They took the number "3" like everyone else because it was in the news, otherwise they would have known it was just two.
Also, if anything, this will make people stand more strongly FOR the Second Amendment considering that this is more along the lines of what it's actually meant to be for, and not just anyone being able to have guns just for the hell of it. If anything this will cause it to be LESS likely for gun control to be strengthened.
The United States of America.How could that not pass? I don't get it.
How could that not pass? I don't get it.