The portion of Scandinavia distorted into a whale tail looks spot on to me, but I'm not going to go near looking for faces in pictures, that is truly the path to madness.
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The Phantom Pain, aka Metal Gear Solid V, Announced (360/PS3, "Moby Dick Studio")
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infinityBCRT
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I could probably find tons of places in the world that loosely match parts of that tail but nothing I've seen is close to an exact match of any part of that tail.
eso76
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No, Big boss saved him during the Mozambican civil war
According to wiki
Big boss saved him when he was a child soldier in early 60's
Then grey fox was brainwashed and as null he tried to kill big boss in portable ops.
Then he was sent to a rehabilitation facility
He later takes part in mozambican civil war as a renamo soldier (1977), he's captured and tortured (ears and nose cut off) big boss saves him again.
After this we know he's in Rhodesia during the Rhodesian bush war (ended in 1979).
All signs would point towards ground zero/phantom pain being set in south Africa or Rhodesia itself (dog shown when demoing fox engine is a rhodesian ridgeback).
Who knows ?
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Konami Office?
Damn. You may be right. Looks very similar.
Wiki is very incomplete and not updated to the current canon. MGS TUS is the only source to follow at this point.
http://www.metalgearsolid.net/gray-fox
Metal Gear Solid 5
Prologue: Ground Zero
Some accident happens that causes big boss to lose his left forearm. Grey fox also gets Hurt. This is where it all began (Ground Zero"
Act 1: Phantom Pain
Big boss has to deal with phantom painhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_pain a common condition an amputee experiences when they have lost a limb. It also is symbolic of the pain he is in when searching for Zero.
Prologue: Ground Zero
Some accident happens that causes big boss to lose his left forearm. Grey fox also gets Hurt. This is where it all began (Ground Zero"
Act 1: Phantom Pain
Big boss has to deal with phantom painhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_pain a common condition an amputee experiences when they have lost a limb. It also is symbolic of the pain he is in when searching for Zero.
ShadowKingpin
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They're using wordpress for mds and using a responsive child wordpress theme too.
This is the wp theme they're using http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/responsive
This is the wp theme they're using http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/responsive
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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I somewhat agree with this notion, however the "escape" takes place after the amputation. You can see that Big Boss and Kiefer Sutherland are still wearing the bandages, and it's an ambulance/van they're riding which has pills falling all over when it rolls. The crash is after Big Boss escapes the hospital.
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The author of the theme is Jesper Hultén -- http://www.mobydickstudio.se/wp-content/themes/responsive-child/style.css?ver=1.7.9
He is also the owner of the domain - http://whois.net/whois/mobydickstudio.se
Huh?
It's a free Wordpress theme.
If they pull a similar stunt in the future with a new subtitle then it all becomes pretty clear I guess. Don't think there's any special event before E3, though.
He is also the owner of the domain - http://whois.net/whois/mobydickstudio.se
Huh?
It's a free Wordpress theme.
If they pull a similar stunt in the future with a new subtitle then it all becomes pretty clear I guess. Don't think there's any special event before E3, though.
I straightened up the painting and enlarged it a bit. It's not ringing any bells for me.
It looks like it might be Great Zimbabwe
https://www.google.com/search?q=gre...eEeHa2AWpuoDgDg&ved=0CD4QsAQ&biw=1680&bih=948
http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/great-zimbabwe
That would make sense with all the speculation of Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe) and Mozambique. Zimbabwe was also a British colony until 1979
eso76
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It's not contradictory to my theory, though.
This page skips the renamo part, but does say grey fox finally joins big boss in 1977 in rhodesia.
Time and place match, this game is undoubtedly going to tell that part of the story.
Ad Infinitum
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Does Ryan Payton still post on here? I know he isn't affiliated with Kojima Prod. anymore but I'd bet he's enjoying this thread.
He pops in occasionally. I last saw him in the Republique thread.
His only VGA related tweet was about Dark Souls 2.
Konami Office?
Who are those ladies? HIDECHAN radio or something?
indigo-cyclops
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Very interesting thought...I'm going to dig deeper with it. See if I come up with anything. I've been searching for an hour or two using generic keywords. Trying to pinpoint style and/or setting with my marginal art history knowledge. I've only studied thoroughly Impressionism/post-Impressionism to the point of recognition.
Some interesting searches so far using 'Great Zimbabwe', though...
Gouda Jouji
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Thanks.
Naked Snake
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Umm, no. You're really reaching.
Kojima makes fake scandinavion company as front for game, it's really not reaching to think they'd just take a map of Norway and Sweden and distort the bottom as a callback to that fact. At all.
Wishmaster92
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I will also add that the steering wheel is on the right side, the bandaged guy is driving the vehicle. Not sure this matters.
Graphics Horse
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Exactly, and it means people can stop staring at to find some deeper meaning. I'm surprised it had one at all, but that one will do for me.
British flag hints the place has british ownership, which would likely mean right hand drive.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Which will confirm that location in Ground Zeroes trailer is different than Phantom Pain, as you can see Big Boss driving a Jeep with steering on the left side.
Waldo Lydecker
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Like FOX and XOF are mirrored, maybe the whole trailer is also mirrored. Then the steering wheel will be on the left side, the amputated arm becomes his right arm and the Union Jack can be mirrored without any problem,
Graphics Horse
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Ground Zeroes trailer takes place in Guantanamo Bay. But GZ was confirmed to involve flying to different countries.
Graphics Horse
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Not possible because in the first scene there's a list of numbers 1 to 16 written on a board. Arm doesn't appear in that shot but the background of the map and flag match shots with the arm in.
base shagohod
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Maybe he's driving a mail truck
eso76
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It wouldn't be mirrored 'literally' anyway, letters would be reversed etc. just key elements like eye patch etc. But I don't think this is the case anyway.
Was it confirmed that ground zeroes is set in Guantanamo bay ?
Has to be a different location anyway, we clearly see an american flag there.
Graphics Horse
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Tallshortman
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So uh are the clues pointing to a sequel to MGS4 or prequel?
Rayven_king
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They drive right hand drive in Zimbabwe (ex british colony)
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Cuba for GZ.
The UK for Phantom Pain seems very likely given the flag and steering wheel.
Edit: or this
Big Boss's first coma was for Les Enfants Teribles in 1972. His second and third comas were after Outer Heaven and Zanzibar respectively.
Ground Zeroes was confirmed to take place after Peace Walker, so if Phantom Pain takes place after Ground Zeroes, it looks like a new coma is being injected into the canon storyline since it seems very doubtful than Phantom Pain takes place after Outer Heaven (Big Boss would look much older than he does in Phantom Pain)
If the trailer was mirrored, it would give credence to the theory that this is actually Liquid before Big Shell in a brand new story we never knew about, but the rotary dial makes that relatively unlikely and as somebody pointed out there are numbers that could not be mirrored.
The man in bandages could be Grey Fox, but it would not be him during reconstructive surgery before Shadow Moses. As pointed out, Big Boss would look much older by that point in the story and would have grey hair, not brown.
The UK for Phantom Pain seems very likely given the flag and steering wheel.
Edit: or this
Big Boss's first coma was for Les Enfants Teribles in 1972. His second and third comas were after Outer Heaven and Zanzibar respectively.
Ground Zeroes was confirmed to take place after Peace Walker, so if Phantom Pain takes place after Ground Zeroes, it looks like a new coma is being injected into the canon storyline since it seems very doubtful than Phantom Pain takes place after Outer Heaven (Big Boss would look much older than he does in Phantom Pain)
If the trailer was mirrored, it would give credence to the theory that this is actually Liquid before Big Shell in a brand new story we never knew about, but the rotary dial makes that relatively unlikely and as somebody pointed out there are numbers that could not be mirrored.
The man in bandages could be Grey Fox, but it would not be him during reconstructive surgery before Shadow Moses. As pointed out, Big Boss would look much older by that point in the story and would have grey hair, not brown.
RustyNails
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Konami Office?
Leather jackets, designer jeans and boots, perfect hair.
Can we put a comparable picture of western game developers?
SJRB
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I straightened up the painting and enlarged it a bit. It's not ringing any bells for me.
It looks like the area where you fight the Crysalis in Peace Walker, but that location was hardly significant.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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This is a cropped pic from Kojima's twitter posted back in the summer. When it first came out I thought the vehicles looked like ambulances with the lights/sirens on the top.
Good catch. Confirms the ambulance theory. Definitely the crash takes place after.
Wishmaster92
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has to be an ambulance as graphics horse said. Besides all the medicine flying around, there is also a telephone installed.
Edit: Yep confirmed by NYR94.
yurinka
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Liquidsnake
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Can someone make a bullet point of what we know?
Please.
Please.
Graphics Horse
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This is a cropped pic from Kojima's twitter posted back in the summer. When it first came out I thought the vehicles looked like ambulances with the lights/sirens on the top.
1972 Chevrolet Vanguard Ambulance
Ah good find, I never saw that tweet.
Sickboy007
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Such manliness.
dinosaur_hunter2
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This, please. It's really difficult to follow a 68 pages long thread at this point
They look so badass. I wouldn't wanna mess with them.Konami Office?
Graphics Horse
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This, please. It's really difficult to follow a 68 pages long thread at this point
The first post sums up enough to be getting on with, we don't really know anything, it's all speculation.
Pretty sure this and Ground Zeroes are the same game now. My guess is that the hospital part of the Phantom Pain trailer is the introduction to the game.
Nothing confirms that Phantom Pain is the official subtitle anyway. Kojima probably named the trailer this way since he likes to create speculations.
The only weird thing is Big Boss's artificial arm but hey it's not the first time Kojima modifies something in the plot.
Nothing confirms that Phantom Pain is the official subtitle anyway. Kojima probably named the trailer this way since he likes to create speculations.
The only weird thing is Big Boss's artificial arm but hey it's not the first time Kojima modifies something in the plot.
Garry looks so badass here.
This literally made me cringe. Thanks :lol
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