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The Spoony Experiment
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both have godawful stories but I enjoyed the combat in both. The sequel more cuz it was faster and switching jobs in real time was good.
Samurai_Heart
Member
Huh just realised he ended the review without going into the ending lol, likely leaving it for the sequel reviews.
Napalm_Frank
Member
so he just gave up.
bummer, and by this there is no way he'll ever review XIII-2 because it's much worse that XIII.
As I said I suspect this is the reason why he wants to end XIII and get straight to XIII-2 as soon as possible. Spoony has said that he thinks XIII-2 is even worse than XIII so I think he has more material to work with, his whole script for XIII got scrapped and probably lost interest for this review for a while.
Going with this XIII-2 is supposedly his most hated FF game to date.
Jawmuncher
Member
Agreed.
Besides there wasn't even much material left for him to cover besides complaining that the story still sucks.
Look forward to him tearing apart XIII-2.
Absolutely hated it and can't understand why anyone could like it more than 13.
(Don't get me wrong 13 still sucks) But I guess the illusion of freedom in that games was all people needed.
no whiny Hope and Snow was hardly in it.
Jawmuncher
Member
Great review. This is never going to happen, but I wished Spoony ditched the whole completely scripted, skit-filled review video. It did make me think about some things.
Spoony was one of the pioneers (it's funny saying that word about something that's barely more than a half-decade old) of these types of videos. Him, James Rolfe, and Doug (from TGWtG) all were. The truth is that times have changed. Cameras have gotten clearer, HD has become the standard, and pretty much everything about the internet has lost that grainy charm of the mid 00's. These types of reviews were great when acting and quality of footage didn't matter all that much, but frankly, now they do. The grainy, 240p footage kind of made the corny acting charming and funny. Props didn't look so cheesy. There's a million people doing this kind of video, and 99% of them aren't funny. Hell, even the best in the game (Spoony) doesn't always knock it out of the part with his review stuff.
The problem I have with a lot of this stuff is these people seem to still be focusing on the wrong things. Skits aren't funny. They are funny 1/3rd of the time on television, and those are made by the best and brightest writers in the world. Acting is only effective and well done 1% of the time, and once again that's by the best people in the world who do it. You really have to have a unique set-up, or you at least have to keep it very short so the punch is there. Long skits kill the video's humor.
I'm hoping we see that next step some day. I've always wanted to actually start making these types of videos, but I haven't ever tried because I haven't had that idea yet. I don't want to see another guy layer footage over clearly fake outrage, recurring memes/bits, etc. Not because that's not great, but for anyone besides Spoony and AVGN, it feels kind of hackey at this point. It's not funny because you can't earn it like they did by making videos that were cutting edge and unique for the time in the mid 00's.
So, to reiterate the point, that's not to say I don't love his videos still. They're always entertaining and quality. He earned that humor, and he still has consistently funny videos. This wasn't a shot at this review really, just a general thought about the whole genre of Youtube videos. I of course would rather see realistic reviews and VLOG's that come out more consistently than these big productions though. Counter Monkey is an example of something that nobody did, or at least nobody presented it in a palatable way for viewers. He's still got it, obviously.
Sorry about the ramble, but I was just thinking about that a lot after I finished watching this video.
Side-note: It was so weird Spoony talk while rap music played. Good song though.
Spoony was one of the pioneers (it's funny saying that word about something that's barely more than a half-decade old) of these types of videos. Him, James Rolfe, and Doug (from TGWtG) all were. The truth is that times have changed. Cameras have gotten clearer, HD has become the standard, and pretty much everything about the internet has lost that grainy charm of the mid 00's. These types of reviews were great when acting and quality of footage didn't matter all that much, but frankly, now they do. The grainy, 240p footage kind of made the corny acting charming and funny. Props didn't look so cheesy. There's a million people doing this kind of video, and 99% of them aren't funny. Hell, even the best in the game (Spoony) doesn't always knock it out of the part with his review stuff.
The problem I have with a lot of this stuff is these people seem to still be focusing on the wrong things. Skits aren't funny. They are funny 1/3rd of the time on television, and those are made by the best and brightest writers in the world. Acting is only effective and well done 1% of the time, and once again that's by the best people in the world who do it. You really have to have a unique set-up, or you at least have to keep it very short so the punch is there. Long skits kill the video's humor.
I'm hoping we see that next step some day. I've always wanted to actually start making these types of videos, but I haven't ever tried because I haven't had that idea yet. I don't want to see another guy layer footage over clearly fake outrage, recurring memes/bits, etc. Not because that's not great, but for anyone besides Spoony and AVGN, it feels kind of hackey at this point. It's not funny because you can't earn it like they did by making videos that were cutting edge and unique for the time in the mid 00's.
So, to reiterate the point, that's not to say I don't love his videos still. They're always entertaining and quality. He earned that humor, and he still has consistently funny videos. This wasn't a shot at this review really, just a general thought about the whole genre of Youtube videos. I of course would rather see realistic reviews and VLOG's that come out more consistently than these big productions though. Counter Monkey is an example of something that nobody did, or at least nobody presented it in a palatable way for viewers. He's still got it, obviously.
Sorry about the ramble, but I was just thinking about that a lot after I finished watching this video.
Side-note: It was so weird Spoony talk while rap music played. Good song though.
I doubt you're unaware, but Roo from Clan of the Gray Wolf sounds like what you're looking for.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOqnD5WyQ5c
Jawmuncher
Member
Good points indeed. Especially agree with you as well. Since I've been following these guys basically since they started. As well as have had thoughts of doing my own show as well.
Anyway I can completely relate where you're coming from especially in the skit department.
Some people like them but its few and far between. If you ever checked out linkara on TGWTG you know exactly what I'm talking. Skit galore in there with its own storyline and everything.
Though that usually stems from the "I do these reviews for myself rather than everyone else". Lastly I have to agree about the times changing. Definitely had changed the environment for these a lot. Though I personally just can't put my finger on it.
Jawmuncher
Member
I didn't mind any of them even the weapon upgrade. But I can understand why others might.
Already a big fan of all of CotGW's work.
Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm still waiting on for the next revolution in this medium. I still love Spoony's (and others like AVGN's) work, but there are a lot of possibilities that I think haven't been realized or uncracked yet. I hope that comes sooner rather than later, but I'll still enjoy the current stuff.
Sweet
I've never liked the skits either, but it may be that that's what's most fun for him. If it's what gets him to do the rest of the review, then it's worth it. Kind of like a commercial offers financial incentive to keep making videos, a skit is creative incentive.
That said, the weapon upgrade bit was actually pretty good. At first, I thought, "Aw, crap. Stupid Dr. Insano bit." And it was totally predictable. But because he committed to it and it went on and on and on (and without an edit for a good long time), it gradually broke me down and won me over.
You could definitely be right. Like I said, I don't really want/need for him to change to something he's not, but it's something that I'd like to see. Either way I'll still really enjoy his videos.
BassForever
Member
Spoony's skits always have great ideas behind them, but they last waaay too long. It was a 5 minute skit that should have only been 30 seconds
No way, I wanted to see him put a bunch of shit on his gunblade and himself lol.
yeah,that part should've been 30 sec max.
then again he is a very close friend to Linkara, who made skits longer than the reviews. so maybe it's contagious or something
It's his own show, so he can obviously do what he wants, but like I said before, professionals that do stuff like this half like a 1 out of 3 success rate. You always have to be conscious of time, because that's the biggest assault on humor.
The problem probably is that before you edit down the final product, you spend all of this time and effort putting together this minute long skit, and by the time you go to edit it down, it feels like you're losing something if you don't include all, or the vast majority of it in the final video.
The problem probably is that before you edit down the final product, you spend all of this time and effort putting together this minute long skit, and by the time you go to edit it down, it feels like you're losing something if you don't include all, or the vast majority of it in the final video.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
I thought it clarified the upgrade system rather well.
Napalm_Frank
Member
.Spoony said:
The Dutch Slayer
Member
That reads to me that he is going to finish it for the review than!
Meccanical
Member
This is gonna be fun, I cannot wait.
Napalm_Frank
Member
That reads to me that he is going to finish it for the review than!
That or a recap on XIII-2 part 1.
Fimbulvetr
Member
Surprised he didn't tear into the scene where Yaag corners Light and Hope in Palumpolum. It's pretty much a series of asspulls.
Since when did Spoony wear glasses, and when did April turn into a man? Oh wait that's James Rolfe and Mike Matei.
Here's the correct video. http://spoonyexperiment.com/2013/05/20/vlog-5-20-13-spoony-april-see-star-trek-into-darkness/
Fat fingered
SlowRevolution
Member
did you check tgwtg.com? Maybe he did it as a crossover or something so he's not credited with it. I don't remember them at all, I checked his site and didnt see anything, and I think he's normally pretty good with archiving everything.
Mikey Jr.
Member
He did those reviews. I fucking know it. Its one of those things where I am 99% its him, but theres is this 1% that is nagging me, and google isnt helping me at all.
Fuck me, it was red letter media. My bad. My memory sucks.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
You're thinking of Red Letter Media. Spoony never reviewed any ST movies.
Sephiroth503
Member
You sure you're not mistaking it with RedLetterMedia, they've done all the Next Gen Star Trek movies? I can't remember Spoony doing a Trek review :s
EDIT: And Freshmaker beats me by a minute
Napalm_Frank
Member
Who didn't?
Not sure, but only he could keep me entertained for an hour while just showing me different D&D dice.
Samurai_Heart
Member
Someone show this to Spoony XD
Napalm_Frank
Member
After Earth – The Aftermath
Spoony, Miles and special guest appearance by Bennett the Sage. 2 hour rant.
Spoony, Miles and special guest appearance by Bennett the Sage. 2 hour rant.