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Venom, Black Cat & other highly anticipated Spidey spinoffs NOT set in MCU
- Thread starter George Oscar Bluth II
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MugiwaraCole
Member
Get em out the paint, Kevin.
CalamityPixel
Member
Save us Marvel Studios.
Well yea. They are marvel properties. They aren't part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
MugiwaraCole
Member
What even is the Marvel Comics Universe but an obviously desperate attempt to abbreviate to MCU?
Breh. You can't make this shit up.
Breh. You can't make this shit up.
You'd be surprised at how many people are hype for a Venom movie with Carnage as the villain.
Chezzymann
Member
Im starting to think that marvel thinks they're not in the MCU but sony does, wonder if sony will just include MCU spiderman in these because they can
This seems like further evidence that Pascal is not in on any of the decision making at all and she just doesn't know what's going on. She's getting a production credit on this as part of her severance compensation for getting dropped from Sony Pictures after the Sony hacks nuked her career there, but she's clueless. A producer who was actually involved in all of this would know better.
Stallion Dan
Member
Both sound awesome, love those characters and they never been done good on big screen, or at all.
Same people are hyped for a Gambit movie to
chrisPjelly
Member
Wtf is the "Marvel Comic Universe" in correlation to the movies?
Of course, Sony pictures is at the helm regardless
Isn't Holland contracted with Sony? isn't Homecoming pretty much a Sony movie? Both companies just made a deal to share characters for this right?
Are these... really highly anticipated?
There is an issue with these big "shared universe" movies where I feel that they are taking the alleged notoriety of characters for granted. I know people are sick of origin movies, but
you can't just go "Black Cat movie!" and expect people to give a shit. You need to spend a movie demonstrating 1) How she is not just Catwoman (even though on several levels she is) and 2) Why anyone would care. That was part of Man of Steel's problem, it relied too much on the pre-established name and identity of Superman instead of demonstrating "Hey! This guy is Superman" so he didn't feel anywhere near as heroic
There is an issue with these big "shared universe" movies where I feel that they are taking the alleged notoriety of characters for granted. I know people are sick of origin movies, but
you can't just go "Black Cat movie!" and expect people to give a shit. You need to spend a movie demonstrating 1) How she is not just Catwoman (even though on several levels she is) and 2) Why anyone would care. That was part of Man of Steel's problem, it relied too much on the pre-established name and identity of Superman instead of demonstrating "Hey! This guy is Superman" so he didn't feel anywhere near as heroic
You could maybe make a neat R-Rated Venom movie that takes place in the "real world" where the person who gets the alien tries to be like his favorite fictional superhero, Spider-Man at first but eventually starts killing the shit out of people, though
Schweinehund
Member
wtf is the marvel comics universe?
pretty much tv status then?
pretty much tv status then?
Admiral Woofington
Member
what the ever living fuck
are we making universes within universes now? DO YOU THINK YOU'RE GOD?
are we making universes within universes now? DO YOU THINK YOU'RE GOD?
Ban Puncher
Member
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
Not saying it'll be good or bad. But some here think it's outrageous that a Venom movie is hyped.
I've seen tons of hype for from people love Marvel comics.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Yes, because Sony can't be trusted to make their own damn Spider-Man movies anymore.
Already have in a way. Take Agents of SHIELD and the other TV shows, for example.
Flow-Walker
Banned
Glass Rebel
Member
Shitting on a company with Sony's track record. How utterly unfair.
don't hurt 'em slay
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Suicide Squad did well, don't know what y'al are talking about.
Fancyarcher
Member
Sony gonna be sony. God what a mess, a black cat film, without at least some kind of Spidey connection would not really work that well, and all their other ideas sound weak and depressing. I doubt Fiege is happy about any of this.
EdibleKnife
Member
When I hear highly anticipated spinoffs, I just think of Catwoman and Elektra
I think that just means, "it's a Marvel character".
Dude Abides
Banned
"Highly anticipated."
I just don't see how a venom movie without Spiderman would be any good, it would be like doing a lex Luther movie without superman
To be fair the SS characters were just h-listers. Gambit is a joke, was dated when he was created, and boring
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
Feige shut that shit down asap lol
A week later?
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
So Marvel now has 4 Marvel universes. Smart.
So with or without Spidey then? I'm guessing without since he's with the MCU at the moment. But then we're back to Sony's "let's build a universe without our title character" scheme.
Marvel coming after DC's Infinite Earth's schtick.
Marvel coming after DC's Infinite Earth's schtick.
Teeheehee
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
And Bruce Campbell as JJJ.
Glass Rebel
Member
I really like Black Cat, even if she's never been done better written or performed outside of her appearance in the Spiderman 2 video game.
They can't and they're not going to be. Nothing is going on. Sony is making Spider-Man villain movies without Spider-Man. That's it.
Laplasakos
Member
I am still confused as to what this means. Can Spider Man appear on Venom and Black Cat and vice versa yes or no?
EdibleKnife
Member
Bob Odenkirk? That does sound pretty good