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I'm hoping we learn some more about the Affinity system soon. I really would like to see them expand it from Xenoblade.
Cross x Douglas <3
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Xenoblade Chronicles X: April 10th Doll Presentation [up: video with subtitles]
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Well we know for sure that this was the last presentation before launch. I feel we'll learn about these things in weekly website update though.
Cross x Lao.
They both look good in spandex <3
they really do
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foxuzamaki
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They had the last one out about a day later, but their schedules must have allowed them to get it out that fast, they usually have a first version to get the main dialogue out the way and then release a 2nd full version which has the things written in the video translated.
foxuzamaki
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I doubt that was CG, doesnt look CG at all, maybe prerendered. I dont think it was downgraded, just different variables in general plus it was a random recreation of it, the E3 one was a planned thing where they had everything they wanted in place to show it off, this looks like it was done at the same time they were doing the animations for the presentation, which is small things done for the sake of presentation and not representative of what it would be like in the full game.
I don't know about gem crafting but in the battle presentation they confirmed that weapons and armor have slots that you can equip gem like items to, except in this game they're called "devices". So maybe you can craft your own devices
Perhaps you can say they'll go
foxuzamaki
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You know, I hope iyakku uploads the soundtrack like Gappears did with xenoblade.
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Sable~Knight
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I'm pretty sure this is spot on.
Mhm, but honestly, it's not justified at all here.
[General argument address commence] In the end, the scene LOOKED better in the E3 trailer. Was it downgraded? Probably not. Everyone is jumping to some strong conclusions over one scene with tons of uncontrolled variables. Cross' armour was smoother to add to his appeal, not his armours appeal, night/day, I don't know what else, but literally EVERYTHING in this game has looked better over time, so 'downgrade' doesn't fit the narrative or the overall evidence. In this case it's something we chalk up to 'differences' and move on. We all know the game is going to be damn awesome so superficial arguments
In this case I'm pretty sure the difference in clarity can be chalked up to video recording/playback quality.
They're called 'devices' We've seen them in the Battle Direct. Although I don't know about creating them, I would assume there's some much more in depth process than the Xenoblade gem crafting. Doesn't make much sense to have devices yet not being able to create them yourself.
Yep! That's exactly what I've done. It's just different and there's not much to really dwell on.
StarStabbedMoon
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I think we all know the reason why: stability. I know some people think this is some kind of conspiracy expose (and what that proves, I have no idea), but the simple answer is they had to cut back on some details after filling the world in. The first E3 trailer was very early. Nothing more to it than that.
This shouldn't be compared to offenses committed with multiplatform titles dumbing the graphics down to the lowest common denominator (at great expense to PC versions). This already is the lowest common denominator. Xenoblade X is tailor-made to the Wii U's capabilities, warts and all.
Yeah, the game looks worse in that scene and for those who are saying it's a day/night thing, there's no natural lighting in that hangar at all from what we can see.
But the game looks a ton better in the new footage after E3 2014 and as a whole, it's been a big upgrade.
And really, we don't need to say "everyone" is jumping to conclusions when there's been multiple people saying that the game overall looks a lot better.
But the game looks a ton better in the new footage after E3 2014 and as a whole, it's been a big upgrade.
And really, we don't need to say "everyone" is jumping to conclusions when there's been multiple people saying that the game overall looks a lot better.
After reading other people replies, I've to admit that I used the wrong term : I should've used the word "Pre-rendering" instead.
My apologies.
My apologies.
CAAAAAAAAAAAW
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It's appreciated! Assuming it's up tomorrow morning I'm gonna finally show my brother what's up now that I won't have to explain what's going on.
I do agree, that scene certainly looks better in the E3 trailer. As to why, well to be honest, we're all kind of pulling stuff out our ass here as to why, "downgrade-wise", it looks better.
I honestly do believe the scenes are different but not because Monolith decided to downgrade. Sure some mechs are missing but if you look up at 0:14 you can actually see something moving on across the walkway that wasn't the E3 2013 trailer. And it's not like the game can't handle 4 dolls on screen at once since we can see that in the gameplay. So IMO, this is just a case of a scene playing out differently than what was originally shown, not necessarily a downgrade.
I feel I need to apologize to everyone though. Hope I didn't seem too defensive over this whole thing.
Sweet! And don't worry about how long it's gonna take. We just appreciate that you guys take the time to do these things for us non Japanese speakers
Its definately changed.
The outfits changed, from one I thought was cool to one I cant stand.
The creatacharacter model has changed from cool mysterious guy to the red headed derpy mcsmoosh face.
And things are just.... different, hes not walking on the same portion of the floor he was walking on in the original, in the original the red floor lights were on his left side, and in the new one they are on his right side, and the video starts with him just finishing a step over the only interesting texture in the shot (The raised up floor grate thing).
The general texture direction has been changed from being horizontal on screen to the direction of movement (Good idea!) to being vertical on screen to the direction ofmovement (Bad idea!)
I think camera angle has changed slightly, and its doing the bump layers no favours, combined with having no actual geometry on the ground to break up the flat blah texture monotony like the original did. (It still had some blah textures, but man, that grate did a lot for me lol) And it definately looks like the textures have been crushed since then, guess they were running out of rom space? A lot of 'machine junk' has been removed from the hangar as well, along with a fog/haze effect.
I dont see much lod switches at all compared to all the switching in the first vid... But I think id rather have the lod switches here and there, than get the second vid with no lod switches.
Oh well. I mean, I can still hop in a giant freaking transforming robot, fly out of the city and fight freaking space dinosaurs.
Understandable.
I prefer the better view of DAT ASS personally.
The "Mysterious Guy" could have very well been "derpy mcsmoosh face" with black hair since you never actually see his face.
I actually never noticed that. You have a good eye.
I think the fog/haze effect isn't gone, just toned down. I don't think the textures have been crushed though, I think it has more to do with what you said about the camera. I also think you meant to say RAM there and not rom lol. Everything else you said here is on point especially the horizontal vs vertical lines which I definitely see now that you've pointed it out.
Not quite to sure what you're talking about here lol, but overall I think you've done a better job than anyone else in describing why the E32013 scene looks better.
HELL YEAH!
Sorry for the double post but I just saw this and goddamn I couldn't stop laughing. Someone put up a video of the presentation where he's comments on it via subtitles and I just got to this part and completely lost my shit. I won't spoil it, just be sure to keep watching
https://youtu.be/ddsBvR8lbnE?t=15m30s
https://youtu.be/ddsBvR8lbnE?t=15m30s
I got interested in seeing what people had to say about the direct so I was browsing Youtube and also came upon this last night. That moment was pretty inspired!
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I haven't watched the entire direct yet, but the most interesting part is right afterward when they show that new old guy doing the party. He looks cool/hot.
That song "The Way" is clearly a love song, but I actually have no idea which of the characters we know of so far could fall in love, haha
Also, those samples of the soundtrack have some really beautiful sounding stuff, there's one that sounds similar to Satorl Marsh at Night even (I'd say it sounds better too).
tonyh24613
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Telethia, Blossom Dance, Starlight Knee, there's a lot of Xenoblade reference in this game.
Doll combination.
Doll combination.
One of the characters apparently joined a union because he has a crush on Irina, or so I read.
foxuzamaki
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Thats a good thing.
That was from Guin's bio, right? I dunno, "The Way" clearly sounds way too intense for just a crush. Maybe it's just about the friendship between that magical girl and her monster companion, who knows
into my veins.
The Zumba dance eerily is in sync with the background music lol.
TheMoon
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The gem system is back, however this time it's data discs or whatever they're called. You use them just like gems. But we don't know of the actual "crafting" mini-game makes a reappearance.
CAAAAAAAAAAAW
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I don't know if it'll be exactly the same as the gem crafting, but one of the Arms Company functions listed on the site are commissioning them to make Devices for you, using 'materials' gathered around the planet.
TheMoon
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I hope you don't just leave them at the desk at let some intern do the fun shouting game.
CAAAAAAAAAAAW
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Subbed narration video is processing, should be available shortly.
Thank you so much!
Amazing!
Yessss, I've been waiting for this. You're awesome.
Kissenkopf
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Fantastic! Can't wait for it.
The effort you guys put in these videos is amazing. Thank you very much.my body has never been so ready.
NinjaMuffin
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This is all awesome and I am all excited and hyped up for the release.....but.....what...TIME..is..it.......?
Awesome, thanks to you and iyakku so much for all of this.
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Samurai_Heart
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=mSE_l9baH2w
Beaten lol, mobile GAF was wigging out for me to post XD thanks for the translation Gess
NinjaMuffin
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Noooo that's the wrong one >_<