not at all
i would recommend being worried about those that are "concerned" about those items though...
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Bar MAFIA |OT| There's Gonna Be Shots
- Thread starter Kawl_USC
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not at all
i would recommend being worried about those that are "concerned" about those items though...
I never said it was you who I was suspicious of out of you two.
yes i am totally your concern
also i cannot be held accountable for what Ouro and drunk Ouro do
that said, i'm pretty sure they are both town
Some people might be calling this argument useless but I want to point out the perspective Ourobolus is trying to throw out there:
For me, the first couple of days are really difficult. You have plenty of people who want to get out there and be active for the sake of trying to help out or appear to be helping. The problem is, with the amount of people we have in a game, all the noise that is added just confuses me. I'd love to see smaller GAFia games in the future (has that been done?). Ourobolus has been particularly noisey this game (I can't remember if that has also been the case in the past) and I find it is not helping me.
For me, the first couple of days are really difficult. You have plenty of people who want to get out there and be active for the sake of trying to help out or appear to be helping. The problem is, with the amount of people we have in a game, all the noise that is added just confuses me. I'd love to see smaller GAFia games in the future (has that been done?). Ourobolus has been particularly noisey this game (I can't remember if that has also been the case in the past) and I find it is not helping me.
*silent nodding*
boo hoo
so nothing else? ok
we all are on board a timetokill/retroid/zeemumu lynch, right?
Hyperactivity
Banned
last time someone tried this shit, he nearly got lynched. Don't do this.
alriiiighttyy then, now, as for some reads, or for an argument, or for something other than why are there so many posts?
this is the first post you've made all day iirc.
So...
TheExodu5
This was his plan yesterday:
(1) do nothing and no lynch
(2) when that got him in trouble, claims "The Bartender." It is simple, vague, and easy.
(3) try and force a tie at the very end of the day
(4) accuse whoever tries to break the tie as mafia. His plan for day 2 was already decided before day 1 ended.
TheExodu5 is riding this claim HARD. Look at WMD they comment on literally everything, they are angry and in a desperate frenzy to not get mislynched.
TheExodu5
This was his plan yesterday:
(1) do nothing and no lynch
(2) when that got him in trouble, claims "The Bartender." It is simple, vague, and easy.
(3) try and force a tie at the very end of the day
(4) accuse whoever tries to break the tie as mafia. His plan for day 2 was already decided before day 1 ended.
TheExodu5 is riding this claim HARD. Look at WMD they comment on literally everything, they are angry and in a desperate frenzy to not get mislynched.
Hyperactivity
Banned
I've stated my feelings towards Ourobolous. TheExodu5 and timetokill are towards similar reasons that some people want to lynch myself.
timetokill
Banned
This is the first time I've believed you all game. I still don't think you're town, but if you are scum you've certainly given yourself enough rope to hang yourself with. We'll see.
UNVOTE
Hyperactivity
Banned
your reason for ourobolus, as I understand it, was that you don't like him posting so much. you don't even say why you think that makes him scum. get out of here with that shot
and it's day 2, and you want to lynch on INACTIVITY. the others have given reasons, and those two you listed, especially tyke, actually HAVE posted. And if you want to lynch on inactivity, where was this yesterday when you voted no lynch? why didn't you want to lynch because of inactivity yesterday?
yeah, no, try again
Hyperactivity
Banned
lol if you thought WAMD was scum I see little in that post to say she's town, I'm going to need you to explain here
Also, this is arguably worse that catvoca's unvote that you're all to willing to criticize
My feelings towards Ourobolous are less on him posting so much (there are people posting more) but rather that he is dampening the conversations and generally not being helpful. The other two aren't on inactivity (I don't think that is why people want them gone?), I am less active than both of them. Rather, they seem scummy to me and easy targets for a day that hasn't moved much.
ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ LYNCH OUROヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ
Hyperactivity
Banned
what about ouro is unhelpful? you mentioned him having a lot of posts, but that in of itself doesn't indicate unhelpfulness
also, sorry for misinterpreting, you said your reasons for voting the others was the same as why some want to lynch you. in any case, you're still not saying much, that's just a bandwagon vote unless you go through all the reasons against them pointed out so far and decide which ones are valid and which ones aren't, and essentially reason out your suspicion of them yourself. because I assure you, some of the arguments against them are probably bs, or not even really indicative of them being scum
hyper
timeA
(That's what I'm calling you now)
don't do this
i need you to trust me
timetokill
Banned
Here's my reasoning. I think she was actually being honest as opposed to wiggling around, so at least for the content of that post she seemed fairly genuine. I think she's scum but I decided in the meantime to look at some other players and see if I could shake some other scum loose. If we're close near the end of the day I'll almost certainly put my vote back on her. But I'm sensing that town wants somebody else today and I'm determined to find the other scum anyway.
Anyway, here's the other stuff I'm looking at:
Since Ouro seems so intent on getting bandwagons started, I figured I'd look at his record. I mentioned earlier that I figured he was just a laser pointer trying to get people to flinch. Here's what I saw, and please correct me if I'm wrong:
245 mattyg
300 batsnacks
417 stackpoleh
433 batsnacks
490 timeaisis
624 mattyg
714 catvoca
716 timetokill
864 retroid
1274 timetokill
That's a lot of votes, and some of them separated by very few posts. Does this actually help town or does it obfuscate things? Is this a way to cover for later when he says "I always suspected X!" when they flip scum?
nin1000 said he was "barking for the sake of barking" in another game and that was what I first assumed, but I have to wonder.
Also TheExodu5 said he'd be opening up about his role but I haven't seen much of it since yesterday. He's not even on this page, and I wonder if he likes it that way. He keeps disappearing from the conversation. Also, the stuff batsnacks listed is on point, and I'm pretty sure batsnacks is town.
Lastly Retroid, a player I keep forgetting is even playing, his posts are so soft. Feels like he keeps sneaking up on me which isn't a good feeling.
timetokill
Banned
Also, I'm very confident that if Dragonz doesn't go today, she will go tomorrow.
I wouldn't be so sure of that. Anything could happen, new claims, Dragonz could have new information, etc.
omg so prescient
timetokill
Banned
So could I.
Anyway the longer she stews the more guilty she'll look and then maybe you guys will finally come around.
timetokill
Banned
mornin' nin. What are you having to drink?
I'm willing to see where WAMD goes over the next day or two. She could be helpful to Town or dig herself a hopefully mafia shaped grave as she has to explain goings on.
Maybe not too helpful to focus so much on one player, lets mafia coast along if she's not, and a lot of focus has been on her with hyper's initial posts, the late claim on D1..
Not sure what to make of TheExodu5, I can see being reluctant to post much on D1 but to make a claim, one that is apparently weakened if there's a full reveal.. puts Town in a difficult position, could start D3 with Exodu5 dead and us none the wiser other than role confirmation.
Ouro continues to post a lot
..but but
Nah, I won't be dead. Town will lynch me in the end. I have way too much suspicion on me for scum to kill me. I probably won't make it past day 3 unless I can actually contribute something useful here...and I'm seriously struggling to do that at this point.
I feel like everyone just accepted it without thinking. Everyone just said "the only situation Crab is scum is if Crab and Dusk Soldier are both scum" and agreed to it. I don't see how that's the case.
Consider the case where Crabs role power is misdirection. He writes his Happy Birthday command, and Kawl spews out meaningless dribble. What Kawl wrote in response to the Happy Birthday command did not corroborate a single thing. All we have to go is Crab's word, nothing more.
I agree, you sure are playing bad mate
YesNOnoNOYes
Member
VOTE TALLY:
ourobolus (4)
salvapot 1458
dusk soldier 1473
zeemumu 1490
retroid 1571
timetokill (2)
ourobolus 1274
catvoca 1434
wherearemahdragonz (2)
barrylocke 1383
timeaisis 1461
batsnacks (1)
gorlak 1430
kyanrute (1)
nin1000 1431
theexodu5 (1)
batsnacks 1471
zeemumu (0)
crab (0)
retroid (0)
nin1000 (0)
lone_prodigy (0)
Day 2 Ends:
timetokill
Banned
Well, okay, let's go through the options.
1. [Crab = scum, Dusk = town]
Crab uses his ability and determines he's town. Tells everyone that Dusk is town. What does that get him? I guess it gets town to believe Crab is town also. But Crab already has this information, so would it be more useful to use on somebody to discover a role? I'd find it strange for scum to be given a power that tells them scum/town affiliation, as it's purely a distraction. Maybe that's common, but I'll I hadn't considered it.
2. [Crab = town, Dusk = scum]
I can't see any reason why he would say Dusk is town if he's scum and he knows it. This option is out.
3. [Crab = town, Dusk = town]
The option everyone assumes, because it's the simplest. Crab has an ability that helps town determine affiliation of another player, out in the open. Makes sense for town to have that ability. It's a happy birthday message, which appears to be successful based on the return message.
4. [Crab = scum, Dusk = scum]
Crab uses his ability to give Dusk some cover. Could be, as we've noted before. But it seems hasty to use that right at the beginning of the day. Dusk did say "Thank you! You remembered!" as opposed to "wtf," but he could've just been playing along. In this case he's got a lot of work to do because he says he has a bunch of other abilities, which means we're going to be asking for a lot of info, which keeps him in the spotlight. Could be a really excellent scum if he could pull that off.
So gimme your thoughts, Exo. It's true that everyone seemed to eventually end up at 3, but I don't think it was "without thinking." Questions were posed to him. Where are you leaning? You seem to have a gut feeling against him. Why?
now give me the C(n,r)=n!/(r!(n-r)!) with town, mafia, and neutral as possibilities lol
timetokill
Banned
4 someones!
i don't consider scum under the umbrella of "someone."
timetokill
Banned
so uh... that means you think salvapot, retroid, and zeemumu are all scum?
well not salva
he is just insane
look my math is different in Jamaica ok
anyway - townies - let's vote for timetokill, ok?
And them boom? Are you a bomb?