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Hyrule Warriors coming out on August 14 in Japan [Up: Famitsu Images]

love that full body shot of Impa. Girl is fierce! And that cloaked person reminds me of the Poe Collector from OoT - edit/wait I see that's already been discussed.
 
Impa's design is kick ass!

Also, they can still have it cannon and still add a bunch of characters. Just do what Fire Emblem Awakening did and have warriors from different points in time.
 

Village

Member
Or as suggested earlier, it could just be its own "timeline", which means it can afford to go the beat of its own drum and have whatever characters they want.

And just make a series.

This is the timeline where link talks and every game is some form of action game and you can play as everyone because reasons.
 

georly

Member
Impa's design is kick ass!

Also, they can still have it cannon and still add a bunch of characters. Just do what Fire Emblem Awakening did and have warriors from different points in time.

I'm ok with a gateway, or a dlc gateway. I'm a sucker for zelda, so i'll probably buy most, if not all, dlc.
 
Generally crossover/licensed Warriors games just go "YEAH THIS IS A DREAM/SPACE-TIME MONSTER OR GODDESS PULLED IN EVERYONE AND THEY ALL FORGOT WHEN IT WAS OVER/WHO GIVES A SHIT WHAT THIS IS JUST ENJOY IT"
 
I meant playable but do really believe that Nintendo designs their games around the plot instead of the gameplay mechanics?
They seem to actually make changes when it comes to Zelda. If they really want that character, they place the game in a time where having that character makes sense.
 

georly

Member
Hey, she'd be better than Fi.

I want fi playable, too. Ice skating attacks.

I need a new trailer but yays at Impa.

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new impa so good. Impa for smash bros.
 

JoeM86

Member
I would have thought none of you guys have seen boobs before in your life the way some of you are reacting lol.

More like downsampling.

I doubt these are native res screenshots. If they are....well, that would be embarrassing.

I'm sorry...are people insinuating that the game runs at 360p?
 
It's been a few years since my last Warriors game, so I'm in for this 100%.

Also, I'm putting a bet down on the female character wearing a berka in the America version as to not shatter the delicate sensibilities of a certain group of people.
 

TreIII

Member
Not really. Even if a game is in it's own timeline, it's still part of Zelda canon. It wouldn't make sense to have Ganondorf before or just after SS for example, or Midna well before TP.

Well, it depends on how you view it.

Again, I could see Zelda Musou more or less like how the Orochi series is to DW/SW. While the former uses characters, scenarios and other aspects from the latter, it still tells its own story, develops characters in its own way, and what happens there does not at all affect or impact the latter.

And on the other hand, it's also much more flexible, because it means that anything from future DW/SW installments can just roll over into the next Orochi game, and there's little-to-no need to re-establish/re-introduce characters just because they're now in a new canon and weren't present previously. Depending on if Zelda Musou turns out to be a success, it could do this same thing with adding in new characters from new and older mainstream Zelda games as sequels permit.

So, if that just deems it its own timeline, fine. I just think making it a self-contained thing works much better than trying to fit into any one of the "branches".
 

Riki

Member
Generally crossover/licensed Warriors games just go "YEAH THIS IS A DREAM/SPACE-TIME MONSTER OR GODDESS PULLED IN EVERYONE AND THEY ALL FORGOT WHEN IT WAS OVER/WHO GIVES A SHIT WHAT THIS IS JUST ENJOY IT"

You're asking us to suspend out disbelief for a video game? Surely you jest.
 

georly

Member
Ganondorf please. With sword. This needs to happen. Make him DLC or something.

I'm ok with DLC for this game as long as there is no "Exclusive Content" for any vendor, especially not preorder DLC. Obviously, there are codes for costumes, which implies costume DLC, but I hope there isn't any retailer exclusive DLC :( Please nintendo, don't be ubisoft.
 

blamite

Member
So far my only real complaint with the game is that it uses the ugly-ass Skyward Sword Bokoblins. Maybe it's supposed to be a story- or timeline-related thing, but it's just a terrible design. And considering all of the main characters got fairly major redesigns, I'm surprised they didn't put in a bit more effort in that one particular area.
 
Well, it depends on how you view it.

Again, I could see Zelda Musou more or less like how the Orochi series is to DW/SW. While the former uses characters, scenarios and other aspects from the latter, it still tells its own story, develops characters in its own way, and what happens there does not at all affect or impact the latter.

And on the other hand, it's also much more flexible, because it means that anything from future DW/SW installments can just roll over into the next Orochi game, and there's little-to-no need to re-establish/re-introduce characters just because they're now in a new canon and weren't present previously. Depending on if Zelda Musou turns out to be a success, it could do this same thing with adding in new characters from new and older mainstream Zelda games as sequels permit.

So, if that just deems it its own timeline, fine. I just think making it a self-contained thing works much better than trying to fit into any one of the "branches".

If you want to do that, that's fine. It wouldn't be its own timeline though, it would be something completely different from the rest of the games entirely. Different timeline would still be canon, like the rest of the different timelines.
 
That's a good point. Link's crossbow training is a perfect example (even though it's first party).

  • "Legend of Zelda" tells the player it will be a story based action adventure game with items, progression, and dungeons.
  • "Super Mario" tells the player that it's a platforming Mario game.

It really only applies to those two franchises, I think (Example: Metroid Prime Pinball).
If it's not going to change the genre, it needs to drop "Legend of Zelda", or at least the "Legend of" part.

What about Super Mario RPG and Legend of Zelda: Battle Quest?
 
SS Spoilers by the way.

I just want to remind people that the game would have to be explicitly non-canon for it to take place prior to Skyward Sword.

SS describes the Land of Hylia as being mostly uninhabited for a unspecified amount of time prior to the events of SS, long enough for what Demise did to the world to eventually wear off and allow a few races to pop up (the Mogma, Kikwi, some Gorons, and the remaining Sheikah.) Directly prior to this the world is describe as being mostly uninhabitable as Demise has nearly destroyed it, with the huge war taking place directly before it being uninhabitable. Next, prior to this it's stated that a civilization based around Hylia existed. The game hints at Hylia having a huge role in this civilization, so the traditional Hyrule civilization wouldn't work here, as no game has ever dealt with any of the creation/protector goddesses having direct contact with the world. The Hylia-based civlization most likely last for a long time, but as directly hinted at in the game, the creation of hyrule happened right before this civilization or at least close to the foundation of said civilization. So all in all, there isn't a place for a Hyrule to pop up, prosper for a unspecified amount of time, then fall only to have a identical hyrule pop up later.

The timeline does contradict it self in a few minor areas, but never to that extent, it'd be like having a Zelda game get made where the Sealing War never happen, and instead Link, Zelda, and Ganon went out for ice cream. :p

Ultimately, I don't think this is canon in the slightest, especially how the magazine seems to be stating that all the characters were based on different characters from different Zelda games; the designs for Link and Impa look awesome though.
 

georly

Member
What about Super Mario RPG and Legend of Zelda: Battle Quest?

Good point about mario RPG. Legend of zelda battle quest isn't a standalone title, but you also make a good point there, too.

My only argument for mario rpg is that 1. it clearly tells you it's an RPG in the title, and 2. It still has platforming elements. Dunno. :) You win I guess. I still like it as a general rule, though.
 

LaNaranja

Member
As someone who has never played a Zelda game, this looks like dumb, mindless fun and I think you all are crazy for speculating where it fits into the timeline.
 
SS Spoilers by the way.

I just want to remind people that the game would have to be explicitly non-canon for it to take place prior to Skyward Sword.

SS describes the Land of Hylia as being mostly uninhabited for a unspecified amount of time prior to the events of SS, long enough for what Demise did to the world to eventually wear off and allow a few races to pop up (the Mogma, Kikwi, some Gorons, and the remaining Sheikah.) Directly prior to this the world is describe as being mostly uninhabitable as Demise has nearly destroyed it, whit the huge war taking place directly before it being uninhabitable. Next, prior to this it's stated that a civilization based around Hylia existed. The game hints at Hylia having a huge role in this civilization, so the traditional Hyrule civilization wouldn't work here, as no game has ever dealt with any of the creation/protector goddesses having direct contact with the world. The Hylia-based civlization most likely last for a long time, but as directly hinted at in the game, the creation of hyrule happened right before this civilization or at least close to the foundation of said civilization. So all in all, there isn't a place for a Hyrule to pop up, prosper for a unspecified amount of time, then fall only to have a identical hyrule pop up later.

The timeline does contradict it self in a few minor areas, but never to that extent, it'd be like having a Zelda game get made where the Sealing War never happen, and instead Link, Zelda, and Ganon went out for ice cream. :p

Ultimately, I don't think this is canon in the slightest, especially how the magazine seems to be stating that all the characters were based on different characters from different Zelda games; the designs for Link and Impa look awesome though.

Literally all they'd have to say is that Hyrule was that civilization that existed a long time ago, and have Hylia show up a few times and it'd be canon.

As someone who has never played a Zelda game, this looks like dumb, mindless fun and I think you all are crazy for speculating where it fits into the timeline.
Screens show a moment that takes place before Skyward Sword, and the main character resembles the version of the character that existed before Skyward Sword. Not really crazy.
 

Regiruler

Member
Ah, yes. What was that, the Time Keeper or something? The stuff he says to characters during supers was cool, but the rest of it...

I don't remember whether Aeon (the character who you're thinking of) created it or the Time Reaper (the final boss) created it and Aeon was trying to destroy the rift.
 
Literally all they'd have to say is that Hyrule was that civilization that existed a long time ago, and have Hylia show up a few times and it'd be canon.

I guess we're just ignoring all the in-game evidence I pointed out, and the fact that no Zelda game has ever contradicted another in such a huge way. It's most likely not canon.
 
Why the timeline talk? I'll just enjoy it for what it is, a spin off with nothing to do with Zelda's timeline etc.
We're enjoying it as a spinoff that happens before Skyward Sword, which it seems to be.

I guess we're just ignoring all the in-game evidence I pointed out, and the fact that no Zelda game has ever contradicted another in such a huge way. It's most likely not canon.
The game states that there was a ground civilization long before. No contradiction.
 
The original designs are very...un-Zelda. :/
Like, I know there have been well endowed Zelda characters in the mainline games, but something seems off about that cleavage witch and the red guy. They kind of feel like typical Japanese character designs.

Link, and Impa look nice though.
 
Have any of the licensed Warriors games been good? I was under the impression that they mostly suck.

I'd say the only ones that outright suck are Fist of the North Star 1 and 2.

The first Gundam one was disappointing, but 2 and 3 were good. I didn't like the artstyle change to 4, so I never tried it. One Piece 1 was barren on content, but OP2 was really good.

A lot of this will vary on how much you like the Warriors games and how much you like the license, too. If you're in it just for the gameplay, the main series (DW8, SW4, even WO3) are what you want to stick with. If you want fan service with your combos, the licensed games do that well.
 

TreIII

Member
If you want to do that, that's fine. It wouldn't be its own timeline though, it would be something completely different from the rest of the games entirely. Different timeline would still be canon, like the rest of the different timelines.

To me, it'd be just as simple as comparing it to how Sakimoto "acknowledged" the presence of the Prime series. In that "it's 'there' and it has its own slice, but it's not really impacting anything else from the big picture".

But for now, we'll have to wait and see! I'd love to see translations of those Famitsu interviews with Koinuma, Hisashi and Aonuma.

Busaiku said:
Have any of the licensed Warriors games been good? I was under the impression that they mostly suck.

I'd recommend Dynasty Warriors Gundam 3 (or "True" if you want to wait for it) or One Piece Pirate Warriors 2. Both of them have been highly rated as solid Musou games.
 

Anteo

Member
I guess we're just ignoring all the in-game evidence I pointed out, and the fact that no Zelda game has ever contradicted another in such a huge way. It's most likely not canon.

No, he is right, they just need to say "oh this civilization happened to be called Hyrule too, the name comes from their goddess Hylia that lived among them"
 

georly

Member
I'd recommend Dynasty Warriors Gundam 3 (or "True" if you want to wait for it) or One Piece Pirate Warriors 2. Both of them have been highly rated as solid Musou games.

Yeah. I played pirate warriors a bit, and it seemed alright, especially if you're a One Piece fan. I still got pretty bored, but my girlfriend's son beat the whole story mode. He enjoyed it.

I think I love zelda enough that I'll concede and put up with the dynasty warriors forumula. If this were any other IP, I wouldn't care enough, I don't think. Maybe a smash brothers warriors (which would still have Link in it).
 
To me, it'd be just as simple as comparing it to how Sakimoto "acknowledged" the presence of the Prime series. In that "it's 'there' and it has its own slice, but it's not really impacting anything else from the big picture".

But for now, we'll have to wait and see! I'd love to see translations of those Famitsu interviews with Koinuma, Hisashi and Aonuma.



I'd recommend Dynasty Warriors Gundam 3 (or "True" if you want to wait for it) or One Piece Pirate Warriors 2. Both of them have been highly rated as solid Musou games.
Metroid doesn't have a history of canon alternate timelines. Also, if you want to compare this to Metroid, this game is easily canon despite how many contradictions there are. The Team Ninja Metroid game made countless retcons.
 

kunonabi

Member
That's debatable. Metroid has been both a sidescroller and a 1st person shooter. You still get upgrades in other M, and those upgrades allow more traversal. Even if the upgrades are unlocked differently, you're still getting them. I'd say Other M is closer to Super Metroid/Metroid Prime than Hyrule Warriors is to any legend of zelda game.



It's not a huge deal, but I like the distinction. I like to be able to say "there are no bad Super Mario games" and "there are no bad Legend of Zelda games."

other m is really more like fusion in terms of pacing and progession and the original metroid in terms of the free flowing yet intuitive combat with some more horror influences mixed in. Either way Hyrule Warriors is certainly a bigger departure.
 
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