Exactly why I'm hoping for it to be non-canon myself.
Yup. I'd love every major zelda protagonist and antagonist to be playable. I want all of the sages, all of the helpers (even navi ), all of the villains, all to be playable. So good.
Exactly why I'm hoping for it to be non-canon myself.
Or as suggested earlier, it could just be its own "timeline", which means it can afford to go the beat of its own drum and have whatever characters they want.
Impa's design is kick ass!
Also, they can still have it cannon and still add a bunch of characters. Just do what Fire Emblem Awakening did and have warriors from different points in time.
I meant playable but do really believe that Nintendo designs their games around the plot instead of the gameplay mechanics?With Zelda? It kept Ganondorf from showing up in SS or any of the post WW games.
Yup. I'd love every major zelda protagonist and antagonist to be playable. I want all of the sages, all of the helpers (even navi ), all of the villains, all to be playable. So good.
They seem to actually make changes when it comes to Zelda. If they really want that character, they place the game in a time where having that character makes sense.I meant playable but do really believe that Nintendo designs their games around the plot instead of the gameplay mechanics?
Hey, she'd be better than Fi.
I need a new trailer but yays at Impa.
I would have thought none of you guys have seen boobs before in your life the way some of you are reacting lol.
More like downsampling.
I doubt these are native res screenshots. If they are....well, that would be embarrassing.
I'm sorry...are people insinuating that the game runs at 360p?
If this IS pre-Skyward Sword, than that means no Ganon.
Not really. Even if a game is in it's own timeline, it's still part of Zelda canon. It wouldn't make sense to have Ganondorf before or just after SS for example, or Midna well before TP.
Generally crossover/licensed Warriors games just go "YEAH THIS IS A DREAM/SPACE-TIME MONSTER OR GODDESS PULLED IN EVERYONE AND THEY ALL FORGOT WHEN IT WAS OVER/WHO GIVES A SHIT WHAT THIS IS JUST ENJOY IT"
Jokingly, yes
Ganondorf please. With sword. This needs to happen. Make him DLC or something.
thank god
Well, it depends on how you view it.
Again, I could see Zelda Musou more or less like how the Orochi series is to DW/SW. While the former uses characters, scenarios and other aspects from the latter, it still tells its own story, develops characters in its own way, and what happens there does not at all affect or impact the latter.
And on the other hand, it's also much more flexible, because it means that anything from future DW/SW installments can just roll over into the next Orochi game, and there's little-to-no need to re-establish/re-introduce characters just because they're now in a new canon and weren't present previously. Depending on if Zelda Musou turns out to be a success, it could do this same thing with adding in new characters from new and older mainstream Zelda games as sequels permit.
So, if that just deems it its own timeline, fine. I just think making it a self-contained thing works much better than trying to fit into any one of the "branches".
That's a good point. Link's crossbow training is a perfect example (even though it's first party).
- "Legend of Zelda" tells the player it will be a story based action adventure game with items, progression, and dungeons.
- "Super Mario" tells the player that it's a platforming Mario game.
It really only applies to those two franchises, I think (Example: Metroid Prime Pinball).
If it's not going to change the genre, it needs to drop "Legend of Zelda", or at least the "Legend of" part.
What about Super Mario RPG and Legend of Zelda: Battle Quest?
SS Spoilers by the way.
I just want to remind people that the game would have to be explicitly non-canon for it to take place prior to Skyward Sword.
SS describes the Land of Hylia as being mostly uninhabited for a unspecified amount of time prior to the events of SS, long enough for what Demise did to the world to eventually wear off and allow a few races to pop up (the Mogma, Kikwi, some Gorons, and the remaining Sheikah.) Directly prior to this the world is describe as being mostly uninhabitable as Demise has nearly destroyed it, whit the huge war taking place directly before it being uninhabitable. Next, prior to this it's stated that a civilization based around Hylia existed. The game hints at Hylia having a huge role in this civilization, so the traditional Hyrule civilization wouldn't work here, as no game has ever dealt with any of the creation/protector goddesses having direct contact with the world. The Hylia-based civlization most likely last for a long time, but as directly hinted at in the game, the creation of hyrule happened right before this civilization or at least close to the foundation of said civilization. So all in all, there isn't a place for a Hyrule to pop up, prosper for a unspecified amount of time, then fall only to have a identical hyrule pop up later.
The timeline does contradict it self in a few minor areas, but never to that extent, it'd be like having a Zelda game get made where the Sealing War never happen, and instead Link, Zelda, and Ganon went out for ice cream.
Ultimately, I don't think this is canon in the slightest, especially how the magazine seems to be stating that all the characters were based on different characters from different Zelda games; the designs for Link and Impa look awesome though.
Screens show a moment that takes place before Skyward Sword, and the main character resembles the version of the character that existed before Skyward Sword. Not really crazy.As someone who has never played a Zelda game, this looks like dumb, mindless fun and I think you all are crazy for speculating where it fits into the timeline.
Show me new impa
Generally crossover/licensed Warriors games just go "YEAH THIS IS A DREAM/SPACE-TIME MONSTER OR GODDESS PULLED IN EVERYONE AND THEY ALL FORGOT WHEN IT WAS OVER/WHO GIVES A SHIT WHAT THIS IS JUST ENJOY IT"
Sounds exactly like the plot from Castlevania Judgment. Go figure.
Show me new impa
Ah, yes. What was that, the Time Keeper or something? The stuff he says to characters during supers was cool, but the rest of it...
Literally all they'd have to say is that Hyrule was that civilization that existed a long time ago, and have Hylia show up a few times and it'd be canon.
We're enjoying it as a spinoff that happens before Skyward Sword, which it seems to be.Why the timeline talk? I'll just enjoy it for what it is, a spin off with nothing to do with Zelda's timeline etc.
The game states that there was a ground civilization long before. No contradiction.I guess we're just ignoring all the in-game evidence I pointed out, and the fact that no Zelda game has ever contradicted another in such a huge way. It's most likely not canon.
Have any of the licensed Warriors games been good? I was under the impression that they mostly suck.
Where is this shot of Impa's full design?
If you want to do that, that's fine. It wouldn't be its own timeline though, it would be something completely different from the rest of the games entirely. Different timeline would still be canon, like the rest of the different timelines.
Busaiku said:Have any of the licensed Warriors games been good? I was under the impression that they mostly suck.
I guess we're just ignoring all the in-game evidence I pointed out, and the fact that no Zelda game has ever contradicted another in such a huge way. It's most likely not canon.
I'd recommend Dynasty Warriors Gundam 3 (or "True" if you want to wait for it) or One Piece Pirate Warriors 2. Both of them have been highly rated as solid Musou games.
Metroid doesn't have a history of canon alternate timelines. Also, if you want to compare this to Metroid, this game is easily canon despite how many contradictions there are. The Team Ninja Metroid game made countless retcons.To me, it'd be just as simple as comparing it to how Sakimoto "acknowledged" the presence of the Prime series. In that "it's 'there' and it has its own slice, but it's not really impacting anything else from the big picture".
But for now, we'll have to wait and see! I'd love to see translations of those Famitsu interviews with Koinuma, Hisashi and Aonuma.
I'd recommend Dynasty Warriors Gundam 3 (or "True" if you want to wait for it) or One Piece Pirate Warriors 2. Both of them have been highly rated as solid Musou games.
That's debatable. Metroid has been both a sidescroller and a 1st person shooter. You still get upgrades in other M, and those upgrades allow more traversal. Even if the upgrades are unlocked differently, you're still getting them. I'd say Other M is closer to Super Metroid/Metroid Prime than Hyrule Warriors is to any legend of zelda game.
It's not a huge deal, but I like the distinction. I like to be able to say "there are no bad Super Mario games" and "there are no bad Legend of Zelda games."