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So what? Racism and making fun of your coworker's kid are antithetical to running a successful business. He made his own grave.Which is nowhere. This guy has no hope to find any job in the short-medium term.
So what? Racism and making fun of your coworker's kid are antithetical to running a successful business. He made his own grave.Which is nowhere. This guy has no hope to find any job in the short-medium term.
Comparing real lynch mobs to social media lynch mobs.
Now I've seen it all.
Thank you so much.
It's not a comparison. It's the digital equivelant. His life hasn't been extinguished but his livelihood certainly has. I'm not saying he's not guilty. Many a mob chased horse-theif and murderer were probably guilty... It's the mob mentality I find disturbing
It's not a comparison. It's the digital equivelant. His life hasn't been extinguished but his livelihood certainly has. I'm not saying he's not guilty. Many a mob chased horse-theif and murderer were probably guilty... It's the mob mentality I find disturbing
It's not a comparison. It's the digital equivelant. His life hasn't been extinguished but his livelihood certainly has. I'm not saying he's not guilty. Many a mob chased horse-theif and murderer were probably guilty... It's the mob mentality I find disturbing
So what you're trying to say is that this is mob justice. Fine. That's not a lynch mob because the end result is completely different. This mob isn't calling for his head, they're calling for him to deal with real-life consequences for digital bullying, which is fine because it's already been proven that digital bullying has real-life consequences for the victim.
It's not a comparison. It's the digital equivelant. His life hasn't been extinguished but his livelihood certainly has. I'm not saying he's not guilty. Many a mob chased horse-theif and murderer were probably guilty... It's the mob mentality I find disturbing
So what you're trying to say is that this is mob justice. Fine. That's not a lynch mob because the end result is completely different. This mob isn't calling for his head, they're calling for him to deal with real-life consequences for digital bullying, which is fine because it's already been proven that digital bullying has real-life consequences for the victim.
I'm not even sold on calling it a mob, considering a mob is one that by necessity feeds on the rage and anger of one another, but in reality this is just thousands of people who had a similar reaction to something.
I mean, it's not a mob mentality. He willingly shared this with the world and parts of the world reacted in a way that cost him his job and ruined his livelihood.
There's no mob mentality, it's the natural outcome of when you share something like that to the world and some don't agree with your message.
In hindsight, my word choice might have been needlessly inflammatory, but it's how I've normally heard this type of thing referenced.
And I truly don't give a damn about that but he will find a job eventually. I have no sympathy for him or anyone in a similar situation where their own stupidity causes them to lose their job. If you just can't help yourself from saying stupid things on a public forum, you should at the very least make your facebook as private as possible.Which is nowhere. This guy has no hope to find any job in the short-medium term
It's not a comparison. It's the digital equivelant. His life hasn't been extinguished but his livelihood certainly has. I'm not saying he's not guilty. Many a mob chased horse-theif and murderer were probably guilty... It's the mob mentality I find disturbing
Anyone would get fired for being racist and making fun of a coworker's kid. It's strange to see people more concerned about the bully's feelings than the victim's.
I find people being hunted and killed on the basis of their race or sexuality a bit more disturbing than a bunch of people crowding against a person who did a douchebag thing.
Cool that you are trying to equate the two and diminish the former, though.
This is a better, more accurate description of the definition you should have been trying to reach.
Despite this, you continue to equate them on this very page.
Don't want to be fired for being a racist shit bird, don't post racist shit publicly as a racist shit bird. It's not that hard.
I don't think anyone in here has expressed concern for the bully's feelings. If so, please point it out instead of making vague accusations. Vague accusations just lead to miscommunication which can increase hostility needlessly.
Bombasador's discussing concern for the bully's livelihood with hypotheticals about his mental health in response to what happened to them.I don't think anyone in here has expressed concern for the bully's feelings. If so, please point it out instead of making vague accusations. Vague accusations just lead to miscommunication which can increase hostility needlessly.
I've brought neither sex nor race into how I used "lynching." I can't view everything through your prism. Our worldviews are obviously very different.
Anyone would get fired for being racist and making fun of a coworker's kid. It's strange to see people more concerned about the bully's feelings than the victim's.
Bombasador's discussing concern for the bully's livelihood with hypotheticals about his mental health in response to what happened to them.
Most people in here have their head on straight when it comes to recognizing who's actually been wronged here, but I'm not feeling the "lynch mob" "slippery slope" bullshit that just happened in here. Anyone making racist comments about slavery and a coworker's kid being a feral animal would be fired. I don't understand what makes it different that they got caught on the Internet instead of in "real life."
Bombasador's discussing concern for the bully's livelihood with hypotheticals about his mental health in response to what happened to them.
Most people in here have their head on straight when it comes to recognizing who's actually been wronged here, but I'm not feeling the "lynch mob" "slippery slope" bullshit that just happened in here. Anyone making racist comments about slavery and a coworker's kid being a feral animal would be fired. I don't understand what makes it different that they got caught on the Internet instead of in "real life."
I want to live in your world, but no, most people don't get fired for this kind of behavior.
That seems pretty reasonable to me. A lot of the responses in this thread are somewhat distressing in how hostile they come off.Eugh, the internet just isn't for me sometimes. I'm glad this asshole lost his job... but fuck internet mob justice. Can I have both thoughts in my head at once?
Nice.Surprised there hasn't been a post criticizing the social media mob yet fOr getting these racists fired.
Nice.
Except there's no blind acceptance of anything here. We know what he and his friends said and we know that the kid is his coworker's son.We can't blindly accept mob justice when it works and then tut tut it when it doesn't. Or at least I can't, I'm sorry that's bullshit.
Except there's no blind acceptance of anything here. We know what he and his friends said and we know that the kid is his coworker's son.
Jenkins was jumped by five to six men, physically assaulted, then shot in the back, police said. At least 18 other transgender women have reportedly been killed in the U.S. this year -- and at least 16 of those victims, including Jenkins, were women of color. The actual number of killings of trans individuals is likely much higher, as family members often don't report to police or media that a victim identified as transgender.
It's also not like their employers don't have minds of their own. They made the choice they felt was right. The Internet didn't hold them up to act.
You know what I mean. I can't clap and cheer on internet justice. Won't happen. I'm happy that a racist was fired but this doesn't change my opinion on the subject, as mildly related as it is.
Someone being fired for inappropriately acting while on the job is nowhere near on the level of people being murdered for the color of their skin or their sexual orientation.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trans-black-woman-killed-pennsylvania_56143258e4b0ec7c18c6a32c
You're correct, and also about 50 posts behind the conversation in which Bombassador said he was wrong to compare to two.
It's not a comparison. It's the digital equivelant. His life hasn't been extinguished but his livelihood certainly has. I'm not saying he's not guilty. Many a mob chased horse-theif and murderer were probably guilty... It's the mob mentality I find disturbing
Oops, sorry about my prism. How about this:
You are comparing the hunting and killing of human beings to people crowding around an asshole who put himself in this situation and ruined his own life, if only momentary (because he can still get a job, just not in his field for a few years, even moreso if they don't google his name, which some companies just flat out don't).
And on this very page, he says:
Doesn't matter. He's banned now anyway.
Since this thread popped up, you've been poking and prodding..great job, dude. Your tag is quite fitting. Really digging your new one!Many accusations have been made here and will see sadly bear no consequence
He knew exactly what he was doing..He certainly shouldn't have doubled down on his language use. :-/
You're correct, and also about 50 posts behind the conversation in which Bombassador said he was wrong to compare to two.
If only that drug price hiking CEO was also racist. Then we'd all be on the same page.
He knew exactly what he was doing..
Not sure how its blind when the variables in this situation are pretty clear to those willing to see it, just like "SJW" I find the térm silly asince it gets applied to all shorts of situations and people that it erases all possibility for examination.We can't blindly accept mob justice when it works and then tut tut it when it doesn't. Or at least I can't, I'm sorry that's bullshit.
If only the were as easy as just not doing it. Unfortunately most stupid things come out before you've thought about what you're saying.
I'm not debating whether this case is in the right or wrong. Just these are the reasons why I won't use social media. I'd rather not risk it.
Why are we bringing up mobs anyway? What the fuck does it have to do with this idiot bring fired?
Not sure how its blind when the variables in this situation are pretty clear to those willing to see it, just like SJW I find the térm silly since it gets applied to all shorts of situations and different context that there is no place for nuance.
"Internet mobs are bad because they blame innocent for terrorist acts"
"Internet mobs are good because they get racist banned and racist supporters defensive"
These are both viable consistent opinions to have because the acknowlege that the people, situation and approaches are so wildly different that they might as well be two different things. I see no double standards.
No I don't know what you mean because what you said doesn't apply to this situation in any way. Context matters.You know what I mean. I can't clap and cheer on internet justice. Won't happen. I'm happy that a racist was fired but this doesn't change my opinion on the subject, as mildly related as it is.
Since this thread popped up, you've been poking and prodding..great job, dude. Your tag is quite fitting. Really digging your new one!
He knew exactly what he was doing..
It's hard to tell with Bombassador sometimes, he seems so genuine.
lol this.It blows my mind that the defense for this (and so many other similar cases) boils down to "but it's SO HARD for me to not be openly racist on social media :'( ".