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Eurovision Song Contest 2016 |OT| San Marino: "I didn't know - anyone but Serhat :("

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C'mon guys, we need more than 16 people to hand in stuff for the official GAF contest!
All entries are up to date in the OP (if I messed up a link let me know!), but here's the recap.

Official EurovisionGAF Vote

- Send me a PM with your country of residence and your votes.
- Tell me whether you want to remain anonymous. Your country will be displayed however.
- No voting for your own country.
- Feel free to also vote for the semis.
- You can give out 12, 10, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 and 1 points respectively, so your list should look like this:
A - 12
B - 10
C - 8
etc.
(starting with 1 and working up to 12 is fine too, just have them in ascending or descending order)

I will reveal the results in a google doc and maybe make some fancy graphs.

For the country rule:
If you are living in a country that doesn't participate, everything is fair game.
If you are a Greek living in Germany, you cannot vote for Germany.
 
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When there's 20+ countries to vote for, emigrant blocks can easily add up. The UK's top points went to Lithuania and Poland, that wasn't just because of everyone loving the song lol. Same always happened with Turkey too, they'd get 12 or 10 points from Germany, Holland etc.

Yet Azerbaijan, whom the Turkish diaspora votes for when Turkey isn't around, didn't do too hot in the televoting, either.
 
IIRC they didn't participate last year because of money problems.

The state run TV channel with a set budget didn't want to pay for the contest when Ukraine was still in conflict. It is not representative of the situation in any way. Also this year private TV channels were involved with selection of the contestants. You are just making very broad assumptions.
 

MrPanic

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Great show, well deserved winner. That song was definitely the most emotionally sung and visually impressively brought performance of them all. Well deserved second place to Australia as well, that girl definitely had the best voice of all the contestants. Russia as third was deserved too, though I'm glad they only got third because I wouldn't have wanted the same video wall gimmick win two years in a row.

Super glad Bulgaria got fourth, that was my personal favorite song of this years Eurovision. Good to see good tastes persevere this year.

My home country Netherlands got 11th which was kinda expected as I predicted them on 10th myself. Unlucky for Douwe that he just missed out on top 10 but I'm glad to see Belgium did make it to 10th place. They showed on our side that the Dutch televoters gave 12 points to Belgium so I wonder if we did the good old political 12 points for the neighbors thing and gave us 12 back. Though you guys definitely deserved it this year.

Great show, glad that such a distinct song won this year over the usual pop music that keeps winning since the jury was introduced.
 
Emigrants from Poland added for 3rd most votes of all people.Wow, some people are dull.



You wrote what now? You seriously are that incredibly stupid. Congrats.

Serious question, are there public numbers on total vote count per country? I simply think Eurovision is not a thing that many care about enough to vote. So it's very... abusable.
 

qazqaNii

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Yet Azerbaijan, whom the Turkish diaspora votes for when Turkey isn't around, didn't do too hot in the televoting, either.

I actually think that the Turkish votes went to Ukraine because the "non english part" was actually understandable for turkish people, thats why I asked earlier what the "foreign" part was since I actually thought it was Turkish and a quick googling actually showed that I understood correctly what she said.
 

Devil

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ESC shouldn't be taken too seriously, I know. But all the fun is drained out if both jury and viewer votes are as politically swayed as they were...

It has always been like that, that the eastern countries always push points to each other, no matter how generic some of their artists were. I am used to that. But this year was basically a vote between three parties: The unpolitical ones (minority), the "Fuck Russia!" ones and the "Go Russia!" ones.

An ESC like this sucks.
 

Spyware

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I'm very biased but I have to say this was the best hosting of... all time probably. I loved Måns and Petra and most of the interval stuff. Love Love Peace Peace was on another level.

The songs tho... a very meh year. One single song stays in my Spotify list (Amir - J'ai cherché).

Thanks for the company and (mostly) fun jokes everyone :)
 
Serious question, are there public numbers on total vote count per country? I simply think Eurovision is not a thing that many care about enough to vote. So it's very... abusable.

I wan't to see this too. Hoping that Ukraine didn't give a single point to Russia :)

This thing is definitely political and is partially driven by immigrants. There are a lot of Ukrainians in Portugal and we always get a lot of points from them. It just wouldn't be a fun competition if it wasn't political.
 

Ruruja

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I'm very biased but I have to say this was the best hosting of... all time probably. I loved Måns and Petra and most of the interval stuff. Love Love Peace Peace was on another level.

The songs tho... a very meh year. One single song stays in my Spotify list (Amir - J'ai cherché).

Thanks for the company and (mostly) fun jokes everyone :)

Was Måns a presenter before winning Eurovision last year? He was scarily good at it.
 

pringles

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When there's 20+ countries to vote for, emigrant blocks can easily add up. The UK's top points went to Lithuania and Poland, that wasn't just because of everyone loving the song lol. Same always happened with Turkey too, they'd get 12 or 10 points from Germany, Holland etc.
It's possible the small minority of gaffers that hated Poland and likely didn't vote don't have the exact same taste as 200 million europeans. Georgia got UK's top score and that was predictable, not because of georgian immigrants. Poland got 10 from Sweden and that was easy to call (as a swede), not because of polish immigrants (are there any in sweden?). Poland was a good ESC entry. Australia got increasingly boring every time you heard/saw the performance. Safe, predictable.. these things rarely win in ESC.
 
I'm very biased but I have to say this was the best hosting of... all time probably. I loved Måns and Petra and most of the interval stuff. Love Love Peace Peace was on another level.

I think all those points Sweden got were people who wanted Mans and Petra to host next year.
 
Ironically, in tele-voting Ukraine gave 12 points to Russia and Russia gave 10 points to Ukraine.

Nooooooo! :)

This is really weird. I guess a lot of Ukrainians still listen to Russian pop stars all the time. No way to avoid this. And Russians probably had no clue what Ukraine song was about. Where did you get the numbers? I haven't seen them yet.
 

Xater

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Props to Sweden though for putting on a top notch show. I was really impressed by the stage and a lot of the direction was also really good for a live event like this.
 

Jasup

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When there's 20+ countries to vote for, emigrant blocks can easily add up. The UK's top points went to Lithuania and Poland, that wasn't just because of everyone loving the song lol. Same always happened with Turkey too, they'd get 12 or 10 points from Germany, Holland etc.

That's because there are lots of Poles in the UK, less than in Germany or France.

However, even if we're talking about UK, Germany, France and Belarus (with the largest Polish communities) that would account for max 48 points. In other countries the number of Polish immigrants is much smaller.

Overall the Polish immigrants are not a very significant player in Europe overall. They can't be, because there's just not enough of them. Most Poles still live in Poland.
 
For the record, the Polish diaspora in Austria is not that big. We have a lot more Serbs and Croats, however, the Austrian televote was 12 to Poland as well from what I heard.

I actually think that the Turkish votes went to Ukraine because the "non english part" was actually understandable for turkish people, thats why I asked earlier what the "foreign" part was since I actually thought it was Turkish and a quick googling actually showed that I understood correctly what she said.

Well iirc Tatar is a Turkic language, so I'm not surprised you'd understand it as a Turk. It's like a Spaniard understanding parts of a Portuguese song or something like that.
You might be right, I suppose.
 

oti

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Guys, it's Eurovision. Don't take this too seriously. It's just Eurovision. I hope y'all had a fun night, I sure did. Can't wait for next year when we'll meet again here.

My dear Australians, we love you and you had the best singer. But it's Eurovision. Don't be too salty about this, at least for not too long. Dami Im has the potential to be a world star and you are a force to be reckoned with.

Good night everyone.
Your president.

😘
 

GrayFoxPL

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When there's 20+ countries to vote for, emigrant blocks can easily add up. The UK's top points went to Lithuania and Poland, that wasn't just because of everyone loving the song lol. Same always happened with Turkey too, they'd get 12 or 10 points from Germany, Holland etc.

Really? Show me when and where, because most of previous eurovisions we got shit points from anyone.
 

daxy

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Nooooooo! :)

This is really weird. I guess a lot of Ukrainians still listen to Russian pop stars all the time. No way to avoid this. And Russians probably had no clue what Ukraine song was about. Where did you get the numbers? I haven't seen them yet.

I think the simpler answer is that people just aren't as hateful toward each other like the politicians are.
 
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