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Here are 25 minutes of gameplay footage from Squadron 42

Gaiff

SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
we´ve heard that before from scam lord roberts.
it`s always "just around the corner", and stays that way for years and years. I´ll believe it when I can actually play it,
You can play it. You have been able to play it for year but it never seems to get out of the alpha stage.
@Rivet

We see you

slap gtfo GIF


Don't even have the balls to be on the front line, always hiding behind laughs, always like that.
That user always does that. I just ignore them lol.
 

Aldynes

Member
Very impressive stuff I especially love the environments like this right here



So my question to you guys : Is there similar cases where feature creep actually worked in video game before? I'm very well aware of Duke Nukem Forever sadly but I don't recall something as huge as Star Citizen ever came close.
 

Buggy Loop

Member
That was fucking unbelievable to me.

I don't get into the hyperbole and negative slant that some have taken over he years. I peek in and see the advancements as they've happened over the years.

It's taken forever yes. But what they showed looked truly unbelievable and I have to hope that it's as good as they say.

These guys have put a tons of work and they were appropriately thorough to show the fruits of their labor.

I can't say the last time I saw something that made me as excited like we are reaching a new level of robust, epic, and ambitious game play.

I'm blown away and haven't backed shit yet.

I'll gladly hold the line, or whatever corny shit, after seeing that.

That's how you do this type of game. I'm pulling for this game.

bu bu but it could have released in 2016!

At what cost, with what vision? The tech to get there took an enormous effort. Certainly, we know how much it takes to make a game today. No way you have the kind of tech shown today in 4 years development starting from scratch, i mean from 0 to 1000 devs and with no graphic engines, got one, then had to change it to a new one because let's not forget in late 2015 Crytek was close to bankrupcy after not paying employees and they closed nearly all studios to save their ass, basically fucking up all the Star citizen roadmap.

Another game started around that time too for space.. 8 years and $400M later we got.... loading screens, err i mean Starfield. A game you won't even remember by year's end.
 

CGNoire

Member
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what the fuck does this even mean? How deep in the rabbit hole is this community?
I think it's a sly way of suggesting that dark skin characters won't just be using the exact same light skin character shader with "just" a darker diffuse texture.
 

Alexios

Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
So cool. Guess no matter rig you have you'll need to upgrade whenever this thing launches. Nice to see light at the end of the tunnel. Funny that the (gravity) FPS bits look very Crysis-like still (no bad thing, it's charming and distinct/recognisable) despite all the things they've added, overhauled, etc.

So is this a space arcade flight sim ala Wing Commander, or a First Person Shooter, or both?
It's like Wing Commander except everything that happens in such a situation/war/whatever you wanna call it can be experienced in game and not only inferred in cut scenes or mission briefings as things others/you do off screen so yeah it includes all the systems needed for all that to be realized...
 
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Buggy Loop

Member
Updated OP with what i think is a direct feed of the Star engine trailer? At least It's now ultrawide (no integrated black bars from stream) and is 4k.

edit - Not direct feed, still see the streaming quality in it. Oh well, still better quality than what i had before.

 
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Buggy Loop

Member
Very impressive stuff I especially love the environments like this right here



So my question to you guys : Is there similar cases where feature creep actually worked in video game before? I'm very well aware of Duke Nukem Forever sadly but I don't recall something as huge as Star Citizen ever came close.


Nothing remotely close has been so sky high in feature creep and get anywhere near what we saw today, even if it's not released.

Even outside of Squadron 42, they showcased this weekend tech that will revolutionize multiplayer games going forward. dynamic server meshing is something you will eventually see in every MMO. Even if CIG closed doors tomorrow, the tech is proven, someone else would pick the embers and make it happen.
 
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LiquidMetal14

hide your water-based mammals
Don’t even start with the gaslighting. Everyone knows the history of this game’s development. The salt and the criticism is very warranted, and certainly appropriate at this point.

See ya in 2033 so we can talk about the game still not being out.
You can look up how many times I have defended this game over the years, that would be probably zero. But the reverse of your obviously immature and adolescent like comment is something you probably could have done without. So it's okay to throw whatever the terms you want to use, just be aware of that you appropriately reserve to write to be scrutinized for those of us that aren't invested in this game like our life depended on it.

I'm actually observing this and looking that this the way I commented on earlier without having seen or invested a damn thing in this in any significant way. I hope the game is actually good regardless of your own cynical opiniom and if you have invested, which is something you somehow omitted, then the level of cynicism may be warranted. I do get those that want to be critical and laugh at this game is if it's vaporware because it's taken forever.

What I observed in this video today, that is not a game that has not shown the fruits of quite a bit of work. No amount of sarcasm or internet badassery's going to erase those 26 minutes I just watched.
 
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Hibs

Member
It looks good, but when it finally releases 4 years from now, I'll come back here and laugh when it's buggy as fuck and runs like ass.
 
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Lethal01

Member
You might have heard about a little unknown game called Wing Commander.
I haven't

Just a spiritual successor to it.
2024 wing commander...that is the fucking hook

Okay cool, people are excited for a sequel to something they loved, got it.

I'm glad you could judge the game's full 28 chapters from a 26 mins trailer. Incredible skill.
I mean I didn't, I said "it looks like"
That said I sadly have not had my first impressions of a game been wrong for atleast 15 years, so yeah i guess my skill is pretty incredible.
 
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T4keD0wN

Member
Looks like Squadron 42 might actually come out in like 2-3 years given the amount and nature of the footage shown in the "I held the line" trailer.
I love immersive games, this looks incredible and they apparently have plans to optimize it, wow, its been years since a game studio did that before release.

Looks like the wait might be worth it.
 
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willothedog

Member
Looks like it really might actually come out in like 2-3 years given the amount and nature of the footage shown.
I love immersive games, this looks incredible and they apparently have plans to optimize it, wow, its been years since a game studio did that before release.
they better get a wriggle on as I backed 100 systems as per Kickstarter goal and they only have 1 'playable' :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
Some people ITT stick to their Wing Commander delusions while this asshole shows gravity gun puzzles lmao

Looks like it really might actually come out in like 2-3 years given the amount and nature of the footage shown.
They say it's in grey box stage since 2016. My guess is it's something like the 2009 state of Duke Nukem Forever. They'll just use the RTX and full Vulkan implementation as an excuse to why it ships 20 years after the Kickstarter.
 

Gideon

Member
I still don't get how people call this a scam, this project has had a lot of issues but it's no scam, you can play alpha and they haven't ran with the money..
 

Buggy Loop

Member
They say it's in grey box stage since 2016. My guess is it's something like the 2009 state of Duke Nukem Forever. They'll just use the RTX and full Vulkan implementation as an excuse to why it ships 20 years after the Kickstarter.

And then around that time they got hit with CryEngine losing support, a lawsuit, switching to Amazon's fork, Ilfonic dropping the ball, recreating all of Ilfonic's work from scratch, etc.

Most studios would have closed down. Its basically a full reboot. But now they own all of it, no fucking engine drama.

You're basically regurgitating the same shit we've seen a dozen times now.

Duke nukem forever, in 20 years maybe, SCAM CITIZEN LOLOLOL

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willothedog

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And then around that time they got hit with CryEngine losing support, a lawsuit, switching to Amazon's fork, Ilfonic dropping the ball, recreating all of Ilfonic's work from scratch, etc.

Most studios would have closed down. Its basically a full reboot. But now they own all of it, no fucking engine drama.

You're basically regurgitating the same shit we've seen a dozen times now.

Duke nukem forever, in 20 years maybe, SCAM CITIZEN LOLOLOL

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Most studios do not have a cult-like following to feed money to their projects.
 
And then around that time they got hit with CryEngine losing support, a lawsuit, switching to Amazon's fork, Ilfonic dropping the ball, recreating all of Ilfonic's work from scratch, etc.

Most studios would have closed down. Its basically a full reboot. But now they own all of it, no fucking engine drama.

You're basically regurgitating the same shit we've seen a dozen times now.

Duke nukem forever, in 20 years maybe, SCAM CITIZEN LOLOLOL

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We stopped taking new builds from Crytek towards the end of 2015. So did Amazon. Because of this the core of the engine that we use is the same one that Amazon use and the switch was painless (I think it took us a day or so of two engineers on the engine team). What runs Star Citizen and Squadron 42 is our heavily modified version of the engine which we have dubbed StarEngine, just now our foundation is Lumberyard not CryEngine. None of our work was thrown away or modified. We switched the like for like parts of the engine from CryEngine to Lumberyard. All of our bespoke work from 64 bit precision, new rendering and planet tech, Item / Entity 2.0, Local Physics Grids, Zone System, Object Containers and so on were unaffected and remain unique to Star Citizen.

You don't even know what Kool-Aid flavour you're drinking anymore.
Roberts literally, unironically said it took a day or two to make the engine switch. And this text was originally published on RSI.
 

Buggy Loop

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You don't even know what Kool-Aid flavour you're drinking anymore.
Roberts literally, unironically said it took a day or two to make the engine switch. And this text was originally published on RSI.

Because they are the same engine, Cryengine is Lumberyard, in fact, from the lawsuit, we saw in documents that CIG never switched to Lumberyard in a way, they always kept their tweaked engine. But they lost most of the engine engineers that were crytek employees, with a massive feature creep and Ilfonic fucking up the marine module (FPS).

Was it a perfect run? Nope.

Just get over it, ffs. The past 2 days of news is that all big pieces of the puzzle are about to release. Rejoice motherfucker? Or you just want to see a game fail and point fingers?

Hoping for a game failure, one which had a hard parkour, is as easy as shooting fish in a barrel, you're not impressing anyone, you're taking the easy dopamine path.

Buggy Loop Buggy Loop

It's been so long ago, that I had to check how much I pledged. Thought I had pledged 40-45 bucks or something so colour me surprised.

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You gOt ScAmMed for like 3 big mac trios. Do you regret your decision yet? I hope.
 
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Croatoan

They/Them A-10 Warthog
Discourse around this game will never change. People have made their minds up, and even if it comes out and is amazing its still a scam. The real issue here is that nobody seems to know what a scam is anymore. I see it all the time, a game called a scam by some group, despite there being no evidence that a scam has been committed. People are just too fucking dumb to think critically or move beyond the "derp derp somebody said this game is bad, so its bad" thinking. It would be hilarious if I didn't feel so completely embarrassed for them and their mental ineptitude.
 
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