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Halo |OT12| Last One Out, Get the Lights

MinkTANK

Banned
HalpGAF, is this the best PC I could get with £900 budget ? I trust the guy who put it together, but it's always nice to have a someone opinion.

Halo and stuff.
 

ElRenoRaven

Member
You know. I have to say I'm loving Spartan Ops. I'm enjoying it a hell of a lot more then I did the campaign. I really am. It's like a love child between Firefight and campaign. It basically amounts to work your way here then defend while the covenant swarm you. The small bit of story it has I'm finding a hell of a lot more interesting too.
 
#stealthedit

Even with normal spawns it might still be too long lol

Cause they want you looping, everyone getting kills, spawn kill die repeat. Hamster in wheel. Unlock next piece. Go play SpOps for some more credits. Hit the XP cap, go to sleep. Wake up Get more credits. Unlock a visor. +10, Take a shower, go to store buy Doritos, come back home get Double XP, Play BTB. Repeat.

Never think for yourself, never notice the game youre playing is dumb.
 

Karl2177

Member
Gah! I went to paste and it posted, I hate my phone :(

Edited with link.

I don't know what the pound->dollar ratio is, so I'm not going to be the greatest source. Check if Newegg/Tigerdirect/mwave(lol) deliver where you are. Is there a need for a SSD and an HDD?

Also, if you're a university student, check if you can get a discounted OS. I got Windows 7 Ultimate for $10(not sure what it is in pounds).
 

Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
Cause they want you looping, everyone getting kills, spawn kill die repeat. Hamster in wheel. Unlock next piece. Go play SpOps for some more credits. Hit the XP cap, go to sleep. Wake up Get more credits. Unlock a visor. +10, Take a shower, go to store buy Doritos, come back home get Double XP, Play BTB. Repeat.

Never think for yourself, never notice the game youre playing is dumb.

What the fuck are you talking about bro?!

Any wanna play some Spartan Ops wit...

Oh. My. God
 

kylej

Banned

was expecting bobbi starr. i am still pleased.

also, if you don't care about sm64 stop reading this post, but there was pretty massive news this week for the community. the newest TAS (tool assisted) speedrun was released. tool assists don't use hacks or cheats, it's all performed by running the game in an emulator and going through the game frame, by frame, by frame. so theoretically you could do every single thing in a tas run, you just couldn't react fast enough or accurately enough. that being said, the new TAS record is an hour and 20 minutes (appropriately) for a 120 star run. it took 15 people collaboratively over 5 years and more than 2,100,000 rerecords (yes, 2.1+ million) to complete. you can watch it with sig commentary here - http://www.twitch.tv/siglemic/b/342635488

shit's... amazing. it's the ulysses of speedruns.
 

TheOddOne

Member
I know the layout. haha It is actually very basic, the tunnel systems are pretty awesome though.

I am pretty sure they fixed the Mantis spawning like crazy on it or at least it seems that way today.
I hated it the first time I played it, I was like "What the hells is this?". Then played a couple of matches on it and finally figured out the flow of the map. Only thing I dislike is the thousand little escape routes and segways it has.
 
was expecting bobbi starr. i am still pleased.

also, if you don't care about sm64 stop reading this post, but there was pretty massive news this week for the community. the newest TAS (tool assisted) speedrun was released. tool assists don't use hacks or cheats, it's all performed by running the game in an emulator and going through the game frame, by frame, by frame. so theoretically you could do every single thing in a tas run, you just couldn't react fast enough or accurately enough. that being said, the new TAS record is an hour and 20 minutes (appropriately) for a 120 star run. it took 15 people collaboratively over 5 years and more than 2,100,000 rerecords (yes, 2.1+ million) to complete. you can watch it with sig commentary here - http://www.twitch.tv/siglemic/b/342635488

shit's... amazing. it's the ulysses of speedruns.

Awesome, watching now
 

MinkTANK

Banned
I don't know what the pound->dollar ratio is, so I'm not going to be the greatest source. Check if Newegg/Tigerdirect/mwave(lol) deliver where you are. Is there a need for a SSD and an HDD?

Also, if you're a university student, check if you can get a discounted OS. I got Windows 7 Ultimate for $10(not sure what it is in pounds).

The exchange rate is 1.6 USD to GBP as of yesterday, but the build website is always in pounds if that's any help. Sadly (and also gladly) I'm not a student anymore, but I could always get a student friend to buy it witg my money lol.

I would like an SSD for larger games and sound programming, but a large one isn't necessary.

I'm clueless when it comes to PC's though. My last computer was an eMac that I managed to keep going for 11 years :S
 

neoism

Member

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Karl2177

Member
The exchange rate is 1.6 USD to GBP as of yesterday, but the build website is always in pounds if that's any help. Sadly (and also gladly) I'm not a student anymore, but I could always get a student friend to buy it witg my money lol.

I would like an SSD for larger games and sound programming, but a large one isn't necessary.

I'm clueless when it comes to PC's though. My last computer was an eMac that I managed to keep going for 11 years :S

To keep this from cluttering the thread too much, check your PMs.

EDIT: I'm hopping on now to see why everyone has complained about SpOps 4.
 

senador

Banned
think that might be my last night with halo 4 unless we get a good team rolling in the future. it's just not fun. nothing matters. it's random spawns, instant respawns, 50 different weapons, no choke points, no flow at all to any maps, no call outs, no ranking system, no nothing. just filling bars up. game's a glitchy bug filled bore.

i just spawn randomly, run around aimlessly, maybe kill someone, die, repeat. no incentive to try. i remember i would be shaking after close ranked games of halo 3. this game i nearly fall asleep.

Interesting. I still get the intense match feeling and shakiness.

DMR, shield recharge time, lag, and aim assist are all really starting to bother me though.
 
think that might be my last night with halo 4 unless we get a good team rolling in the future. it's just not fun. nothing matters. it's random spawns, instant respawns, 50 different weapons, no choke points, no flow at all to any maps, no call outs, no ranking system, no nothing. just filling bars up. game's a glitchy bug filled bore.

i just spawn randomly, run around aimlessly, maybe kill someone, die, repeat. no incentive to try. i remember i would be shaking after close ranked games of halo 3. this game i nearly fall asleep.

You and me need to go out drinking together, talking about the good ole days.


Salt everywhere.

I certainly NEVER would have thought Kyle and Over would be the first to bail on Halo 4 publicly. Never.

This shit is tiring. Everyone's going to have opinions on a game that's so far removed from previous Halos in lots of ways. People are actually giving reasons too. No need to pull that salty crap.
 
think that might be my last night with halo 4 unless we get a good team rolling in the future. it's just not fun. nothing matters. it's random spawns, instant respawns, 50 different weapons, no choke points, no flow at all to any maps, no call outs, no ranking system, no nothing. just filling bars up. game's a glitchy bug filled bore.

i just spawn randomly, run around aimlessly, maybe kill someone, die, repeat. no incentive to try. i remember i would be shaking after close ranked games of halo 3. this game i nearly fall asleep.

This. Nothing about the game makes me wanna play. The only time I feel like playing is when I don't have enough time to play a SP game or a game of 2K13.

A Halo game like two weeks old and I don't even care anymore. :(
 

Deadly Cyclone

Pride of Iowa State
This shit is tiring. Everyone's going to have opinions on a game that's so far removed from previous Halos in lots of ways. People are actually giving reasons too. No need to pull that salty crap.

Hey, if they can be sarcastic so can I right? I know their opinions and they are fine, reasonable even. I like to have some fun though. :p
 
Hey, if they can be sarcastic so can I right? I know their opinions and they are fine, reasonable even. I like to have some fun though. :p

Be specific in who you're talking to then. It's not like all of us go around calling each other Team Downer or Team Slurp or whatever the fuck that drama was. It makes actual discussion two sided instead of nuanced.
 

IHaveIce

Banned
Salt everywhere.

I certainly NEVER would have thought Kyle and Over would be the first to bail on Halo 4 publicly. Never.

Shocking right? I mean all of their assumptions before release became true and it is clearly far away from the Halo they wanted, they gave it a shot and they aren't interested.

Of course they bailed, they aren't the only ones or the "first". Kyle even admitted the game is fun, but brainless fun, no urge to play seriously.

And being said, both explained their problems with the game better than anything I read as defense from somebody who thinks some of the new features are good for Halo.

EDIT: Devo was faster, no offense Cyclone, took your post also way too serious it seems lol
 
was expecting bobbi starr. i am still pleased.

also, if you don't care about sm64 stop reading this post, but there was pretty massive news this week for the community. the newest TAS (tool assisted) speedrun was released. tool assists don't use hacks or cheats, it's all performed by running the game in an emulator and going through the game frame, by frame, by frame. so theoretically you could do every single thing in a tas run, you just couldn't react fast enough or accurately enough. that being said, the new TAS record is an hour and 20 minutes (appropriately) for a 120 star run. it took 15 people collaboratively over 5 years and more than 2,100,000 rerecords (yes, 2.1+ million) to complete. you can watch it with sig commentary here - http://www.twitch.tv/siglemic/b/342635488

shit's... amazing. it's the ulysses of speedruns.
Hrrngh that super sonic wing cap flying is nuts to see, even for a TAS.
 
Shocking right? I mean all of their assumptions before release became true and it is clearly far away from the Halo they wanted, they gave it a shot and they aren't interested.

Of course they bailed, they aren't the only ones or the "first". Kyle even admitted the game is fun, but brainless fun, no urge to play seriously.

And being said, both explained their problems with the game better than anything I read as defense from somebody who thinks some of the new features are good for Halo.

Plenty of the detractors have listed bullet points for what they don't like and why. I have too. I haven't gone out of my way to insult those who find the current game fun. Just explained why the changes chase people like me away. And some people are just so set on being defensive about the game that they have to be jerks about it. I'm just not keen on "ooh so salty" nonsense.
 

IHaveIce

Banned
Plenty of the detractors have listed bullet points for what they don't like and why. I have too. I haven't gone out of my way to insult those who find the current game fun. Just explained why the changes chase people like me away. And some people are just so set on being defensive about the game that they have to be jerks about it. I'm just not keen on "ooh so salty" nonsense.

Oh I clearly missed your post with your criticism about the game, really want to read it, will search for it. And I agree, I also never liked the "salty/slurp/downer" stuff. I can like one thing and dislike the other, but I'm not on any "team"

Try being a fan of the original Tomb Raider, Assassins Creed or Call of Duty or Resident Evil, or ...
Resident Evil I can agree, Tomb Raider .. kind of.

But Assassins Creed? The games are not nearly as old as the other franchises to compare(IMO), didn't play the newest one so I don't know if it really is so different from the first game.

And CoD? yeah I don't like CoD, but looking at it, it does the thing I would wish Halo would do, have the same multiplayer core gameplay like the previous game. No new stuff that clearly doesn't fit.
 

Aberrant

Member
Glad to see HaloGAF coming to it's senses. Halo 4 is garbage. Massive changes need to be made by 343i, or to 343i.

Heads must roll!
 
Oh I clearly missed your post with your criticism about the game, really want to read it, will search for it. And I agree, I also never liked the "salty/slurp/downer" stuff. I can like one thing and dislike the other, but I'm not on any "team"

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44614507&postcount=9563

Basically I feel the same way as Kyle. There's a lot of randomness in the game instead of everyone having relatively the same stuff and outsmarting your opponent with the same tools. Chess is no longer a thing.

Timedog is in FFA throwback. Two complex options. Hahaha. Fuck.
 

Fracas

#fuckonami
Try being a fan of the original Tomb Raider, Assassins Creed or Call of Duty or Resident Evil, or ...

We're going to need something new to shake games up.

There were rumors that Destiny plays "quite like Halo".

I believe in it far more than I probably should, but if it's half as good as the original Halo trilogy, I'll be hooked. I think they learned from their missteps with Reach.
 

Caja 117

Member
think that might be my last night with halo 4 unless we get a good team rolling in the future. it's just not fun. nothing matters. it's random spawns, instant respawns, 50 different weapons, no choke points, no flow at all to any maps, no call outs, no ranking system, no nothing. just filling bars up. game's a glitchy bug filled bore.

i just spawn randomly, run around aimlessly, maybe kill someone, die, repeat. no incentive to try. i remember i would be shaking after close ranked games of halo 3. this game i nearly fall asleep.

This nails the problem in halo 4, while reach didnt had a ranking system matches werent so random, now, halo 4 is about filling up a bar to unlock the next ugly helmet, even havinghaving comendations that promote spaming

There is no purpose in the matches, i can go 3 straight matches withouth touching a power weapon because i dont bother to look for a weapon that radomly appears in a very large map, instan respawn makes small map play as a big mess, by the time you clean up an area of the whole opposing team the first ones tha died are already shooting at you.

What is sad is that these changes were made to attract masses from CoD, and in the end, those player went back to their game in no more than a week, and now the population peak is equals to reach just before this game was released.

Exclusive settings for grifball, but no option for a clasic playlist for the longtime fans?
 

Deadly Cyclone

Pride of Iowa State
Plenty of the detractors have listed bullet points for what they don't like and why. I have too. I haven't gone out of my way to insult those who find the current game fun. Just explained why the changes chase people like me away. And some people are just so set on being defensive about the game that they have to be jerks about it. I'm just not keen on "ooh so salty" nonsense.

Oh I get ya Devo. I did my in depth explanation and thoughts earlier today, so some may have missed them. If you notice though, we see way more of the negative stuff being repeated over and over here than anything positive. Some of the positive people may get a bit defensive, but that's a natural reaction to an overwhelming majority of negative posts.

On the contrary to what you said, some of the negative folks are so set on hating the game that they can be jerks too.

We're all jerks I guess. Especially Elzar. Where's he been? :p
 
Glad to see HaloGAF coming to it's senses. Halo 4 is garbage. Massive changes need to be made by 343i, or to 343i.

Heads must roll!

I don't know why I keep coming to this thread. I don't know why all of you whom seem to hate the game come here either.

I fuckin love this game though.
 

blamite

Member
The words "Storm Covenant" haven't been explicitly stated in Halo 4. However, based on subtle hints throughout the campaign (i.e. Cortana to Chief in mission one "...or maybe we've come across an entire rogue fleet!"), as well as the novels (mainly The Thursday War - which revolves around the Storm Covenant and leads in Halo 4 ), it becomes clear that this is the Storm faction, although the word "Storm" was never mentioned in the campaign.

If I remember correctly, the Storm Covenant discovered Requiem around 2554, and they've had a stand on the planet ever since (according to Spartan Ops). Again, while the phrase "Storm Covenant" hasn't been mentioned in the game, there is enough evidence between the campaign, Spartan Ops, and especially The Thursday War, to conclude these are the Storm Covenant on Requiem, hence why we have the "STORM" rifle and physical variations in appearances. It's pretty obvious. A little reading and some Google searching will give you enough evidence in five minutes.

My guess is 343i's never specifically mentioned the Storm Covenant, other than The Thursday War, is because it'll be revealed (and a major plot point) in Halo 5.
Bit Thursday War mentions Storm Rifles being used by Elites who aren't part of this faction. Unless their group is named after their favorite gun, but that's honestly pretty dumb.
 
I don't know why I keep coming to this thread. I don't know why all of you whom seem to hate the game come here either.

I fuckin love this game though.
As someone who's sold off my copy of Halo 4 and don't have any particular interest in returning to it I keep coming back because of the community of posters here that I enjoy reading the posts of, also discussion of anything that catches my interest. It's not a Halo 4 OT, you have that in the Gaming side.
 
Been reading the last few pages and on the subject of Halo dropping in popularity since Call of Duty got big, I've got some thoughts. Halo 3 was still really big until Reach dropped. I think Halo's decreasing popularity has more to do with Halo's decreasing quality since Halo 3. Halo 3 was the most pure Halo experience on the 360 and it was the most popular and has sold the most. It is no longer a unique experience, there are too many features from other popular games. Halo also was unique because it was the most competitive FPS on consoles, and it had that MLG relationship. Remember all the kids doing anything to get 50s and spending money on every MLG picture pack that dropped on the marketplace? This was still going on while COD4, WaW, and MW2 were big. It started changing when Reach came out and became less competitive, not to mention an inferior game. Halo 4 just took that further.
 
Oh I get ya Devo. I did my in depth explanation and thoughts earlier today, so some may have missed them. If you notice though, we see way more of the negative stuff being repeated over and over here than anything positive. Some of the positive people may get a bit defensive, but that's a natural reaction to an overwhelming majority of negative posts.

On the contrary to what you said, some of the negative folks are so set on hating the game that they can be jerks too.

We're all jerks I guess. Especially Elzar. Where's he been? :p

You can talk about these things and accept that others like changes and others don't without calling the people whom are negative about the situation "bitching" "salty" or what have you (at this point I hope you know I'm being general not really talking to you). There are major changes to parts of Halo and a bunch of people are feeling left out. They don't want to be miserable. They honestly want to like Halo 4 but when you change the aspects of the game that enticed them to play, that's it, the attraction is lost.

I've said time and again why I keep coming back to Halo and to be frank, this game kind of shat all over that. So I'm not happy. I'm not going to torture myself and play it either. But I want to confide in others who feel the same way and explain my though process. I'm actually very depressed about it. So when I'm told "oh you're just being negative" or "oh you're just bitching", I'm not. I want to be just as invested in this game as others but I cannot given how the game no longer retains the aspects that kept me coming back. People say things need to change, fine. And if I'm that much of a minority about it, I'll accept that I can't have Halo back. But there is enough here to create a stripped down playlist with the barebones mechanics if they'll humor me.
 

IHaveIce

Banned
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=44614507

Basically I feel the same way as Kyle. There's a lot of randomness in the game instead of everyone having relatively the same stuff and outsmarting your opponent with the same tools. Chess is no longer a thing.

Timedog is in FFA throwback. Two complex options. Hahaha. Fuck.
Ah thank you, and yes I agree whole heartly with everything, some of the stuff is so simple, I can't get behind how 343 thought stuff would be ok like it is .. for example partysplitting.

Also the part about flinching, real 1v1 will be exactly like you said just being who sees the enemy first.
There were rumors that Destiny plays "quite like Halo".

I believe in it far more than I probably should, but if it's half as good as the original Halo trilogy, I'll be hooked. I think they learned from their missteps with Reach.
Oh I also set my hopes in Destiny, even after Reach I think Bungie will deliver the good stuff.
We're all jerks I guess. Especially Elzar. Where's he been? :p
He's silent.. too silent, but I see him playing the game most time I'm online.
I don't know why I keep coming to this thread. I don't know why all of you whom seem to hate the game come here either.

I fuckin love this game though.
Disliking Halo 4 doesn't mean to dislike Halo.. it is the Halo community thread, not the Halo 4 OT
 
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