Dictator93
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Or if the game has ambitious plans regarding world diversity, animation diversity, size, etc...
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Or if the game has ambitious plans regarding world diversity, animation diversity, size, etc...
Someone needs to develop tech and game engines too, they have a place in the industry.
They're a tech focused company. They do much more than videogames.
Is it sarcasm?
No!
It can only filled up if the game is poorly optimized. Like last gen when 512 MB could only be filled up if a game is poorly optimized.
Or the gen before when 32MB were enough.
The real truth is that 512KB should be enough for everything.
Chû Totoro
Member
I can fill my iMac's 16GB of RAM easily while doing everyday things... it's not even comparable but I'm just going here because if your job is to make the best engine possible I wouldn't find it a good sign to ask for more than 8GB when the gen is at the beginning and when last gen was way under this.
I never liked Crytek engine's graphics but I now think that they're not only bad at making games but also bad at making engines (maybe? or at least this sound like they could be very badly optimised).
I never liked Crytek engine's graphics but I now think that they're not only bad at making games but also bad at making engines (maybe? or at least this sound like they could be very badly optimised).
No, the tech ignorant majority has decided that it is poor optimization (I mean, have you seen Crysis 1?), and Crytek sucks at gameplay anyways, so your argument is invalid.
lol
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No they have army contracts.
I'm scared now.
Chû Totoro
Member
I doubt that... or maybe army simulator but it's still industry oriented video games.
Any info about this?
PairOfFilthySocks
Member
Yes, hurt feelings.
Edit:
Chû Totoro;112480357 said:
iirc it makes them far, far more revenue than their videogames.
Edit 2:
You best not be talking about Crysis 1.
No. Most of their money comes from military training simulations.
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Chû Totoro;112480357 said:
Yes battleground simulation. It was widely reported.
http://www.vg247.com/2011/05/27/us-army-spending-57-million-on-military-simulator-using-cryengine-3/
http://www.pcgamer.com/uk/2011/05/3...-reality-training-sim-powered-by-cryengine-3/
http://www.edge-online.com/news/us-army-uses-cryengine-3-vr-training-simulation/
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
Ryse was pretty impressive, considering the hardware. Crytek's character models are second to none in the gaming industry.
BakkaGames
Member
Do you guys remember this? The Witness dev complained about the avaliable RAM.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=581139
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=581139
LoveCake
Member
Look at how all us members think that 8GB will not happen & that 2GB or 4GB will be enough, how wrong were we !
How much RAM do Crytek want exactly ?
Most PC's do not come with 8GB RAM, ok most "gaming" PC's do but not everyone that plays games on a PC has a £1000+ rig that's got a i7 overclocked & two Titans running in SLi & 32GB RAM, i suppose Crysis 4 is going to be PC only then ?
The way Crytek are going this will be the min spec for Crysis 5;
18,688 AMD Opteron 6274 16-core (CPUs)
18,688 Nvidia Tesla K20X (GPUs)
693.5 TiB (RAM)
40PB (HHD)
27 petaFLOPS theoretical peak
What are Crytek on about !
Watch them in a few years say they need 128 GB RAM for the next generation of consoles.
I don't think that will be needed for consoles of the PS5 gen, not with stacked DRAM on GPUs and APUs. External system/graphics RAM might be 32+ GB, but not another 16x leap from 360/PS3 to PS4/Xbone.
I don't think that will be needed for consoles of the PS5 gen, not with stacked DRAM on GPUs and APUs. External system/graphics RAM might be 32+ GB, but not another 16x leap from 360/PS3 to PS4/Xbone.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
For next-gen, Crytek: "Consoles should have 16GB of RAM"
6 months after new consoles launch: "16GB is a limiting factor on PS5/Xbox"
6 months after new consoles launch: "16GB is a limiting factor on PS5/Xbox"
Look at how all us members think that 8GB will not happen & that 2GB or 4GB will be enough, how wrong were we !
How much RAM do Crytek want exactly ?
Most PC's do not come with 8GB RAM, ok most "gaming" PC's do but not everyone that plays games on a PC has a £1000+ rig that's got a i7 overclocked & two Titans running in SLi & 32GB RAM, i suppose Crysis 4 is going to be PC only then ?
I suppose this is the min spec for Crysis 5 then;
18,688 AMD Opteron 6274 16-core (CPUs)
18,688 Nvidia Tesla K20X (GPUs)
693.5 TiB (RAM)
40PB (HHD)
27 petaFLOPS theoretical peak
What are Crytek on about !
The fuck is that shit. Will be filled in two years.
Yeah, but if you want to load the whole game in memory, that complaint will never cease to exist, even if there is 16 GB. Something or the other is always going to be a limiting factor with finite hardware. Crytek is stating the obvious.
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Look at how all us members think that 8GB will not happen & that 2GB or 4GB will be enough, how wrong were we !
How much RAM do Crytek want exactly ?
Most PC's do not come with 8GB RAM, ok most "gaming" PC's do but not everyone that plays games on a PC has a £1000+ rig that's got a i7 overclocked & two Titans running in SLi & 32GB RAM, i suppose Crysis 4 is going to be PC only then ?
The way Crytek are going this will be the min spec for Crysis 5;
18,688 AMD Opteron 6274 16-core (CPUs)
18,688 Nvidia Tesla K20X (GPUs)
693.5 TiB (RAM)
40PB (HHD)
27 petaFLOPS theoretical peak
What are Crytek on about !
The hell you talking about 8gb is cheap. It was cheap 3 years ago and it's cheap now. The only reason why someone would not bother to buy it today is if they had no intention of buying a decent pc to begin with.
ScepticMatt
Member
no
Chû Totoro;112480357 said:
http://www.rt-immersive.com/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEK8tNROCEjRn0S0WrtCctg
Eh - if we look at the Steam hardware stats - which I believe are a pretty good representation - because it does include a massive amount of low end systems, the most popular GPU according to the Steam hardware stats is the Intel integrated HD 4000.
These same stats list 8GB of RAM as the most popular configuration.
8GB of RAM isn't some super exotic specification - low end, cheap laptops come with 8GB of RAM these days:
e.g.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00GE4F0J2/
What on EARTH is this nonsense? I don't even know how you got to this bollocks - it's such an awful way to get your point across.
"I wish the base spec Ford Fiesta had 40 more BHP."
"BUT NOT EVERYONE HAS A CAR THAT COSTS £100k, that has a 700BHP engine!"
LoveCake
Member
Half the people on Steam have 4GB or less.
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/
How many current PC games have 8GB as the min spec ?
Sword Of Doom
Member
Haha. That really is nuts
I made that same joke and people flipped out on me here. lol
THis is one of the reasons I think this generation is going to be shorter. We have DDR4 coming out soon and computers in general are evolving very quickly. These consoles will be obsolete much sooner than last gen.
To be fair they said minimum, and they probably didn't anticipate OS requirements to be as large as they are.
Ignoring that anyone with a non dinosaur level graphics card also has VRAM.
MonsterHunter
Member
In Sony's case they got the best they could afford at the time. Anything more and the price for them and the consumer is heading the wrong way (a factor in Xbox1's lagging sales).
There's nothing to deride in his words, it's logic. If you read the rest there's no need to sensationalize.
There's nothing to deride in his words, it's logic. If you read the rest there's no need to sensationalize.
LoveCake
Member
So why did Crytek say that 8GB is what was needed for the 8th gen consoles & now they have come out with 8GB, Crytek are saying it's not enough, a games console uses RAM differently to a PC, look what R* did with GTA5 on the 7th gen consoles with 512MB RAM, the PS4 & X1 have five times the RAM now & it's still not enough for Crytek.
The point i was making is not everyone who owns a PC is some hardcore gamer with the latest top spec rig running the latest hardware, lot's of people have a PC for work etc but will pick up the odd game or two.
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Again that's half. It's pretty telling that half have greater than 4gb. High end pc gaming enthusiast have always taken up small amount of the total number of pc gamers. The mere fact that even among the more casual users half have greater than 4gb should really tell you something.
That even they are aware of advantages of more ram and that it's affordable to many.
BravO.
BigTnaples
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Really not news.
Of course ram will be a limiting factor. It will be on PC's too for the foreseeable future.
Of course ram will be a limiting factor. It will be on PC's too for the foreseeable future.
This is not true. Crytek have wished for at least 8GB and have gotten around 5.
Ever tried out Ryse?
DarkJedi24
Member
Maybe this would be relevant if they made good games, but until that time I'll enjoy all the other good content that can be made with a balance of graphics and thoughtful design.
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
Chances are that Ryse would have been 792p if it was made by someone else.
Neuromancer
Member
Holy crap, good find haha. Some people look pretty dumb right now.
You should really read what they said - Crytek said they needed 8GB minimum. They were not given 8GB minimum, Crytek can use approximately 5GB of memory on these consoles, as can all other developers.
I'm not sure what point you are making with your GTAV comment. Crytek aren't saying they can't develop games within the memory limit, they're saying it's not enough to do what they wanted.
Yes - and my point is that 8GB isn't just for gamers. Like I said, it's not uncommon for even low end laptops to come with 8GB of RAM.
Mr. Wonderful
Member
Sorry, but I don't think we have the storage speeds to load in 16GB of data to primary memory.
People would go nuts at the loading times.
People would go nuts at the loading times.
Uh, why would that matter? There's no reason that you'd need to load in all 16GB of data into memory at once.. and for most games out already - they're probably not loading all 5GB at once either - storage speeds on these SATA2 HDDs aren't fast enough for that to not show a noticeable impact on performance.
They'll continue loading after the initial load.
Holy shit !
Five. Crysis 2, Crysis Remastered, Crysis 3, Ryse, and Warface.
Wow just wow.. Everyone in that thread should really rethink anything they say.