Trunx81
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Well, it killed the franchise.
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Indiana Jones & The Dial of Destiny
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TaylorSwiftFan
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So does he also not say that there are no reshoots?
Grildon Tundy
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I agree in hindsight, although I would've interpreted it how T TaylorSwiftFan did without having known the final movie's details. Can't tell if Mangold was playing 4D-Chess with his wording or not.
jezhumphrey75
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its mainly the car chase scene thats gets me, looks awful in every possible way.
Tal Shiar Agent
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I'm not sure which was longer, the runtime or Phoebe Waller Bridge's jawline.
I did enjoy it, but in a sad sort of way. It's better than 4 and about tied with 2 but it gets nowhere near the highs of 1 as 3. As a swansong it worked though.
I did enjoy it, but in a sad sort of way. It's better than 4 and about tied with 2 but it gets nowhere near the highs of 1 as 3. As a swansong it worked though.
VulcanRaven
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newtypepilot
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‘Indiana Jones’ Destined For Franchise-Worst $300 Million Worldwide Gross
Popular franchises and studio brands are struggling at the box office, and Disney is feeling the pain.
www.forbes.com
worst office bomb in Disney history? lol
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
‘Indiana Jones’ Destined For Franchise-Worst $300 Million Worldwide Gross
Popular franchises and studio brands are struggling at the box office, and Disney is feeling the pain.
worst office bomb in Disney history? lol
Comfortgel
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The swan song was Last Crusade. This (and crystal skull) are awful fanfics as far as I'm concerned.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Contemporary woke ideology. It's infected even people who were at one time sane.
Saber
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I dunno about him, but apparently theres a recording of Spilberg saying she was incompetent at her work and love to interupt people. Maybe she is doing on purpose or just is real bad like he said...
Revolutionary
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The beancounters at Bethesda must be sweating right now, because it seems like interest in Indiana Jones is at an all-time low, and I can't see that changing over the next few years before the release of their Indy game.‘Indiana Jones’ Destined For Franchise-Worst $300 Million Worldwide Gross
Popular franchises and studio brands are struggling at the box office, and Disney is feeling the pain.
worst office bomb in Disney history? lol
GymWolf
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The ninja farmer
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I went into this with hopes of a grand finish and throw back adventure for Indy. (And to see my city looking like New York in the parade scenes)
Left with mixed feelings. Like the crystal skull, it ticked the Indiana jones back on the big screen box, but felt like there was something missing or that they went too far with the main driver/maguffin of the plot. Although having Mads in the cast was a great move and he was as good as ever. if very understated and not in ‘bad bastard’ mode (really only when he spoke to the waiter, could you see how evil and disturbed he really was, as well as what he planned to do. Once he used the dial)
I don’t think the new main characters really added anything, other than to make you miss the friends and family, that Indy had in the first 3 movies
Not saying it wasn’t any good, but it just didn’t come close to touching the first 3 movies and I left feeling that perhaps a reboot, or film focussing on other younger Indy adventures further down the line. with less reliance on cgi could be doable. Although without Harrison Ford in the role, that could be a big (paramount shaped) mountain to climb
Even the train sequence feels nowhere near as exciting or engaging as the one in the new mission impossible movie
But it’s Indiana jones and on the big screen. So the little kid in me was thrilled to see another doctor jones movie (my daughter very much unimpressed, but that might just be that she didn’t grow up with the movies and modern audiences have very different tastes and expectations)
Maybe time and another viewing will help
Left with mixed feelings. Like the crystal skull, it ticked the Indiana jones back on the big screen box, but felt like there was something missing or that they went too far with the main driver/maguffin of the plot. Although having Mads in the cast was a great move and he was as good as ever. if very understated and not in ‘bad bastard’ mode (really only when he spoke to the waiter, could you see how evil and disturbed he really was, as well as what he planned to do. Once he used the dial)
I don’t think the new main characters really added anything, other than to make you miss the friends and family, that Indy had in the first 3 movies
Not saying it wasn’t any good, but it just didn’t come close to touching the first 3 movies and I left feeling that perhaps a reboot, or film focussing on other younger Indy adventures further down the line. with less reliance on cgi could be doable. Although without Harrison Ford in the role, that could be a big (paramount shaped) mountain to climb
Even the train sequence feels nowhere near as exciting or engaging as the one in the new mission impossible movie
But it’s Indiana jones and on the big screen. So the little kid in me was thrilled to see another doctor jones movie (my daughter very much unimpressed, but that might just be that she didn’t grow up with the movies and modern audiences have very different tastes and expectations)
Maybe time and another viewing will help
AJUMP23
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Did the Wright brothers crash a plane like Ford too?
VulcanRaven
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'Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny' Finally Breaks Even at the Global Box Office:
'Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny' Finally Breaks Even at the Global Box Office
Harrison Ford reprised his iconic role in a sequel burdened by an inflated budget.
collider.com
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Ulysses 31
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Eh, that's not what breaking even means. Gross wise worldwide it made as much as the production budget but then you have to give theatres their cut(usually 50% and in China they take 80%?) and then it's still a big loss. And that's not factoring in the marketing costs. It would need to make about 900M $ to start being profitable.'Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny' Finally Breaks Even at the Global Box Office:
'Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny' Finally Breaks Even at the Global Box Office
Harrison Ford reprised his iconic role in a sequel burdened by an inflated budget.
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Jinzo Prime
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'Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny' Finally Breaks Even at the Global Box Office:
'Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny' Finally Breaks Even at the Global Box Office
Harrison Ford reprised his iconic role in a sequel burdened by an inflated budget.
Whoever wrote that article is either an idiot or covering for Disney. This is going to be a box-office bomb, the question is how big.
FunkMiller
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'Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny' Finally Breaks Even at the Global Box Office:
'Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny' Finally Breaks Even at the Global Box Office
Harrison Ford reprised his iconic role in a sequel burdened by an inflated budget.
This article is so cretinous that it speaks volumes about Collider’s standards that they allowed it to go out.
NecrosaroIII
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I didn't think it was the worst movie in the world, but too many vehicle chases.
Setzer
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Dude is totally clueless. Quantity wouldn't be an issue if the quality was there. Here's an idea - hire better writers, focus on telling better stories and writing better characters instead of focusing on pushing an agenda.
Badlucktroll
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Movie shoulda been done by Spielberg and Lucas like all the other ones. It probably would have done better
VulcanRaven
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I don't think Spielberg wanted to do the fourth movie either. It the making-of documentaries it feels like he did it because Lucas and Ford wanted it.
Chuck Berry
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AmuroChan
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I mean, that's just straight up a lie.
Trilobit
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Did you know that the reason Indiana was so good at finding historical sites was because of his high count of midi-archeologians?
Jk, I would have loved a movie by Lucas.
Did they bring him back but make him leave his balls at the door????
Come on Bobby. Man up and admit the real reason for Disney's box office problems. The small fraction you piss off with honesty will pale in comparison to the quiet and positive reaction that most rational people will have.
gothmog
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That's not how streaming works, though. You pay just enough to make sure people will keep paying for the monthly fee. No more, no less. So you hire mediocre writers on purpose. To keep the costs down.
I'm not sure they hire mediocre writers DELIBERATELY, it's just that they are only willing to pay so much for known talent yet they have SO MUCH content to make, so a lot of crap gets through. The sheer number of productions going on is one of the reasons it is odd that writers are complaining that they lack constant work, seems like it would be pretty easy to bounce from show to show to show once you are "in" because the demand is certainly there.
gothmog
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I'm sure they hire the best for whatever range their paying. The deliberate part is that range is being whittled down by limiting the number of episodes and pushing out the seasons to be 14-16 months apart. A good writer will not deal with that shit because they don't have to.
Eh, but lots of shows are serialized now and the delay is due to all the production. If writers are wanting the old 22 ep episodic mill back then they are just out of luck. Now I would argue that having 10 writers, each doing ONE episode of a serialized show is damned stupid. Just have a couple writers do the whole thing so there is more consistency. So we are in a weird transition point where no one really knows where it is going.
HoodWinked
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prolly cause they already did that with Star Wars and it backfired horribly.
Grildon Tundy
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I am part of that missing $600M in revenue Disney needs to recoup their expenses.
I love Indiana Jones, and other than having James Mangold at the helm, nothing about this movie piqued my interest.
A big part of the problem was the one that CAPCOM recognized with Resident Evil 6: it was the most financially successful entry in the series up to that point, but they knew the fan reaction would mean they needed to go back to their roots for their next entry, and it paid off with 7. Crystal Skull burned a lot of credibility with fans, so, no, you don't get my money on this one, and I bet my attitude is shared by many.
I love Indiana Jones, and other than having James Mangold at the helm, nothing about this movie piqued my interest.
A big part of the problem was the one that CAPCOM recognized with Resident Evil 6: it was the most financially successful entry in the series up to that point, but they knew the fan reaction would mean they needed to go back to their roots for their next entry, and it paid off with 7. Crystal Skull burned a lot of credibility with fans, so, no, you don't get my money on this one, and I bet my attitude is shared by many.
Batiman
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Everyone keeps bringing up Nathan. The dudes old too.
Red5
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Wasn't Ford 40 during Raiders of the Lost Ark and 50 during Last Crusade? I think Nathan is around 50 too.
Batiman
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To old to jump into someone’s shoes. If it was gonna get passed down it should be someone at least under the age of 35. I guess it could work though.
F0rneus
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Pfft. Even fucking Helen Keller would have known that this fucking piece of shit won't make them a cent of profit.
FunkMiller
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What the fuck even is this utter piece of shit?
What the hell was that ending? Indy does nothing. There's no climax. There's no denouement. He's utterly and completely robbed of all agency.
Why is it all so boring and pedestrian? Why is it so long?
Why does nothing make any sense? Why do they not even try to explain things properly?
Worse than Crystal Skull.
FAR fucking worse.
What the hell was that ending? Indy does nothing. There's no climax. There's no denouement. He's utterly and completely robbed of all agency.
Why is it all so boring and pedestrian? Why is it so long?
Why does nothing make any sense? Why do they not even try to explain things properly?
Worse than Crystal Skull.
FAR fucking worse.
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TRUST MANGOLD!
He did Logan, remember?!?!?
TBF, Indy is often just "along for the ride" in these films, which is fucking INFURIATING because it has been a major complaint since Last Crusade but they KEEP DOING IT. They are just locked on to the template of Raiders and can't really see a deviation, ToD burned them so much. As much as it pains me to admit, ToD is the only film where Indy shows up and then leaves the place better BECAUSE of his actions. All the others, the macguffin defends itself and all Indy does is largely delay the enemies inevitable demise.
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