Horse Detective
Why the long case?
Mass murder?
Nice job lol.
Mass murder?
I was in Japan recently and was walking through akihabara,and came across a store that was 5 levels high dedicated to porn. No complaints.
However, the entire first floor was filled with underage models im sexual movies/books - thousands of videos and Mags, dedicated to young boys and girls, white, Japanese etc.
Was crazy. I felt lightheaded walking around, especially seeing all the guys and even women browsing and buying.
Still baffles my mind that you can be arrested for possesing a video or a picture. Makes you wonder why child abuse, death, murder, injuries videos arent "illegal" either. As well as regular death, cruelty, abuse, illegal substance, murder, killing, torture, animal cruelty videos. People just get so uncomfortable about the sexual part of it that they have to make it a legal action...
Just seems too close to a thought crime to me and makes me feel weird that people are so excepting of that. And no, I'm not a "loli" lover or whatever, since that's a popular defense for people to proclaim if anyone second guesses these laws.
I'm more about going after the child molestors and rapists. And hiding the videos don't make it any easier to find those scumbags.
Seriously? Seriously? 15 year old who looks 20 is still 15, still has the mindset of a 9th grader, is very young minded and easily manipulated. When's the last time you met an 8th grader, heard them speak and said "yeah, that's a mature adult who is emotionally, mentally and socially developed enough to make sexual decisions without being used or being caught at the losing end of a misuse of trust and power."?
Most 14 year olds are hella awkward and barely out of their training bras, despite what the "lolita" media tropes would have you believe.
Because there's a market for it and it hurts children. People buying child pornography encourages the market which hurts children. Snuff films aren't really a problem in the same way because there isn't a real demand for them.Still baffles my mind that you can be arrested for possesing a video or a picture. Makes you wonder why child abuse, death, murder, injuries videos arent "illegal" either. As well as regular death, cruelty, abuse, illegal substance, murder, killing, torture, animal cruelty videos. People just get so uncomfortable about the sexual part of it that they have to make it a legal action...
Just seems too close to a thought crime to me and makes me feel weird that people are so excepting of that. And no, I'm not a "loli" lover or whatever, since that's a popular defense for people to proclaim if anyone second guesses these laws.
I'm more about going after the child molestors and rapists. And hiding the videos don't make it any easier to find those scumbags.
Well, I guess the main difference is that pictures or videos of (real) murders or injuries are usually not taken to "entertain" the audience, but just for documentation. At least the act of injuring or murdering is not done to take pictures of it. That's different with child pornography. I'm not sure whether snuff films are legal or not, but I guess they're not.Still baffles my mind that you can be arrested for possesing a video or a picture. Makes you wonder why child abuse, death, murder, injuries videos arent "illegal" either. As well as regular death, cruelty, abuse, illegal substance, murder, killing, torture, animal cruelty videos. People just get so uncomfortable about the sexual part of it that they have to make it a legal action...
I think you are over estimating this market and profitability. There are not too many businesses that are funded entirely by child rape videos and the majority of them are homemade by psychos' who do it because they are psychos', not to increase their view count. And making something illegal to sell is not the same as illegal to view. I'm not saying this shit should be put on youtube or even allowed on websites. But it is still insane that you can destroy ones life through a picture that the person has no association with.Because there's a market for it and it hurts children. People buying child pornography encourages the market which hurts children. Snuff films aren't really a problem in the same way because there isn't a real demand for them.
By making it illegal to even possess child pornography, the market gets strangled more because customers are less willing to buy it. Illicit child pornography still exists even with it being illegal, but putting customers under the radar will hopefully stop them from buying in the first place, and there's no point in child pornography if you can't sell it to anyone.
Having a no-compromise attitude is silly here when the law only punishes people who are supporting a business that sexually abuses children.
(Except for the anime bit, that part's pretty silly and unnecessary.)
Have you ever seen any of those websites that glorify/make light of death, killing and even rape? A lot of those are there to validate some sick peoples pleasures. It's horrible and appalling that people watch those videos and even make jokes on them, but throwing them in jail and destroying their entire lives because of that? Seems nuts to meWell, I guess the main difference is that pictures or videos of (real) murders or injuries are usually not taken to "entertain" the audience, but just for documentation. At least the act of injuring or murdering is not done to take pictures of it. That's different with child pornography. I'm not sure whether snuff films are legal or not, but I guess they're not.
Your argument does hold w.r.t. fictional depiction (e.g., drawings), though.
I was in Japan recently and was walking through akihabara,and came across a store that was 5 levels high dedicated to porn. No complaints.
However, the entire first floor was filled with underage models im sexual movies/books - thousands of videos and Mags, dedicated to young boys and girls, white, Japanese etc.
Was crazy. I felt lightheaded walking around, especially seeing all the guys and even women browsing and buying.
Well, the difference is, with the exception of actual snuff films, the videos are independent of the act itself. A person being killed would be killed regardless of whether the act is filmed or not.Have you ever seen any of those websites that glorify/make light of death, killing and even rape? A lot of those are there to validate some sick peoples pleasures. It's horrible and appalling that people watch those videos and even make jokes on them, but throwing them in jail and destroying their entire lives because of that? Seems nuts to me
I think it's fine with just a social stigma against it.
So who is being harmed here? Because lolicon keeps pedophiles off of real child pornography, where children are actually harmed.
Well, I just meant physical attraction. I don't agree with the notion that that someone that much older should be with someone 14 or 15. At 16 however, the age gap can be lessened I think. And many in their 20's aren't "socially and mentally developed" enough either...like physical appearance, mental matureness varies heavily between 15-21.
physical attraction only. Girls are starting physical development earlier and earlier, and average breast size is increasing. And they are marketed with more grown-up clothes, makeup etc. You end up with girls looking physically older than 10-20 years ago. Combined with the age of consent going up from historical averages. It is a difficult combination.
By sexual do you mean swimsuits, fetishtic wear? And the non Japanese stuff... Where does that get made I wonder.I was in Japan recently and was walking through akihabara,and came across a store that was 5 levels high dedicated to porn. No complaints.
However, the entire first floor was filled with underage models im sexual movies/books - thousands of videos and Mags, dedicated to young boys and girls, white, Japanese etc.
Was crazy. I felt lightheaded walking around, especially seeing all the guys and even women browsing and buying.
Yeah this.
Pedophilia is a sexual orientation that probably can't be changed, and any pedophile is going to want some kind of sexual release.
Might as well legalize the one type that doesn't harm anyone, or else they might turn to the worse ones.
No! It's digusting! Anything to do with child porn, including your thoughts on it should be made illegal and any pedophiles or would be pedos should be guantanamoed!
/1stpageofthread.
I was in Japan recently and was walking through akihabara,and came across a store that was 5 levels high dedicated to porn. No complaints.
However, the entire first floor was filled with underage models im sexual movies/books - thousands of videos and Mags, dedicated to young boys and girls, white, Japanese etc.
Was crazy. I felt lightheaded walking around, especially seeing all the guys and even women browsing and buying.
And again, this is the same argument against violent video games and movies. They normalize such behavior. And studies have actually shown that people are more aggressive after watching violent things and more desensitized to it. Do you support a ban on violent games?
one can only hope.does that mean we will get more STATE OF THE ART JAPANESE ANIMATION?
The thread you mean or the law, or the proposal or the arrest ?There's so much to say to this, but I'll just simplify my thoughts into one clause:
The fuck?
one can only hope.
But seriously, making loli moe kawaii uguu~ shit illegal will just make it more sought after. I'd say give it some time and some other trend will come along.
I am for freedom of expression and all that stuff, but you have to draw a line at some point.
I am for freedom of expression and all that stuff, but you have to draw a line at some point. Loli and other perverted underage porn is a big NO in my book. Didn't know it was legal in Japan. Weird.
I am for freedom of expression and all that stuff, but you have to draw a line at some point. Loli and other perverted underage porn is a big NO in my book. Didn't know it was legal in Japan. Weird.
Whenever I try to look for some JAV, there are also DVDs with children in some swimsuits, making sexy poses and sucking on bananas and such things...
Are there laws banning people who look underage from doing porn?
What about a drawing of a mature looking woman labeled as being underage?
really, I thought that would be illegal already...
it's strange how stuff like that in Japan is avaible physically. underground stuff is mostly avaible on whatever secret torrent sites on the internet
Another german Kaiji-Fan. Guter Geschmack
In Germany, since 2009, yes.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scheinminderjährigkeit
and
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meld...en-den-Begriff-Jugendpornographie-215157.html
Sorry, I don't have an English version. In short: if the actor (or comic character, doesn't matter) LOOKS underage, it is classified as Jugendpornographie (Youth Porn?), funny thing is that you can get the same punishment as for cp, if the police somehow caught you. In reality this means that all "just 18/teeny" porn is de facto illegal in Germany, of course this only applies to the new stuff, the old stuff can still be sold (Yes, it makes no sense).
Seems not. They even seem to use these "massage"-things in those videos. Of course only for "massage".
Everything they do is just implied.
Instead of sucking a ****, the suck on bananas.
Instead of having sex, they pose in sexual positions.
Instead of being naked, they wear revealing bikinis...
sexually suggestive poses in swimsuits, bikinis, costumes, high heels, camel toes etc. It was all quite overwhelming, especially when considering the sheer amount of it in store and the people browsing and buying.By sexual do you mean swimsuits, fetishtic wear? And the non Japanese stuff... Where does that get made I wonder.
sexually suggestive poses in swimsuits, bikinis, costumes, high heels, camel toes etc. It was all quite overwhelming, especially when considering the sheer amount of it in store and the people browsing and buying.
Honestly I thought that stuff would be banned already by the incident in the 80's, were a mass murderer was arrested, and they found his room full of kiddy porn and hentai
Honestly I thought that stuff would be banned already by the incident in the 80's, were a mass murderer was arrested, and they found his room full of kiddy porn and hentai
sexually suggestive poses in swimsuits, bikinis, costumes, high heels, camel toes etc. It was all quite overwhelming, especially when considering the sheer amount of it in store and the people browsing and buying.
The non Japanese stuff looked like its from the US based off the branding, but that's just a wild guess!
Possession of child pornography featuring real children is a terrible thing, but I've yet to see a convincing argument for why porn featuring drawn fictional children should be illegal to possess. Most arguments are slippery slope fallacy, which is a fallacy and thus not a good argument. The ones that aren't that are "it will lead them to fuck real children" which is unsubstantiated as far as I know.
And it's genetic. So tough luck?Lusting after children and having sexual fantasies about kids is as wrong as it gets.
Lusting after children and having sexual fantasies about kids is as wrong as it gets.
Anything that aids that is pretty wrong.
And of course it's unsubstantiated not like we are gonna get accurate info from a pedophile.
This is good news, by the way what the flying fuck is a loli? O.O