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Marvel's Secret Wars Hype Thread - Where we argue about what "reboot" means
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There's always a new crop of 13-15 year olds to eat up that extreme edge.
Be nice to see some old friends again
Back in my day, all we needed was Catalin Fairchild on a cover and we called it a day.
Back in my day, all we needed was Catalin Fairchild on a cover and we called it a day.
MisterHero
Super Member
Cyborg was a Superfriend. That's practically Justice League
Carol Danvers was borderline bottom-tier before Kelly Sue DeConnick came along.
Father_Brain
Banned
They're playing games with the wording.
Well, yes, as far as Secret Wars is concerned, the MU as we know it is done - because the entire premise of these eight issues and the tie-ins is that the multiverse, save for Battleworld, has ceased to exist.
Doesn't exactly mean that Marville next door to Marvel Zombies is the status quo going forward.
She still is.
She still is, her big moment during this whole thing was getting punched into orbit by Hulk.
Gambit 1138
Banned
But it also doesn't mean the 616 as we know it today is ever coming back.
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
He gets that movie money:
And, on a much lesser level, as it only really borrows the aesthetics and alien invasion finale of The Ultimates.
In practical terms, what exactly is "the 616 as we know it today" anyway?
That's Hickman's fault, not hers.
I'm reading Dark Reign right now and enjoying it. Osborn's manipulation of Sentry has been really entertaining.
Yup.
She'll get her badass cred, she'll end up saving Tony or Steve's ass.
There's still 3 classified lands, here's hoping...
Father_Brain
Banned
Is there a chance I'm wrong? Sure, I don't work at Marvel and can't know for certain.
But they've been launching too many new ongoing books, and still have more coming in the next few months, for me to believe that the outcome will be anything that drastic.
I also just don't think that sweeping, retroactive, reality-altering continuity changes are in Marvel's DNA, but that's more a YMMV thing, of course.
To me it seems like a new main universe is going to come out of this, but its definitely not going to be Battleworld straight up.
Father_Brain
Banned
One thing I will predict: the new multiverse will be designated or numbered differently, allowing Marvel to get rid of the 616 designation that most of the editors seem to hate.
I don't know he been nailing characters pretty good. I mean Avengers 40....,
Gambit 1138
Banned
Predictions:
-Star-Lord is no longer the son of J'Son of Spartax. There will be no Spartax after Secret Wars.
-Ultimate Nick Fury will become the only Nick Fury. The original mighty whitey version and Marcus Jr. will be erased from the continuity.
-Gwen Stacy will be back
-The Captain Marvel backstory will be condensed and streamlined to reflect the movie so the previous Captain marvels will be erased.
-Miles Morales & Spider-Gwen will be around. Spider-Man 2099 will go back to his own time and it will be left open if he still is around in the new universe.
-90s X-Men are now the main X-men team (I hope)
-Marvel Universe will be much more inline with the MCU
-Star-Lord is no longer the son of J'Son of Spartax. There will be no Spartax after Secret Wars.
-Ultimate Nick Fury will become the only Nick Fury. The original mighty whitey version and Marcus Jr. will be erased from the continuity.
-Gwen Stacy will be back
-The Captain Marvel backstory will be condensed and streamlined to reflect the movie so the previous Captain marvels will be erased.
-Miles Morales & Spider-Gwen will be around. Spider-Man 2099 will go back to his own time and it will be left open if he still is around in the new universe.
-90s X-Men are now the main X-men team (I hope)
-Marvel Universe will be much more inline with the MCU
Scientist Supreme!
Banned
Why do they hate it so much?
Sibersk Esto
Banned
They think it sounds dumb and nerdy.
That's the issue everyone is gonna have a problem with. So the origins of every team is gonna be adjusted and the Mutants will be the minority?
Bwahahahahahaha it all comes back to that. That pipedream folks keep pushing.
Gambit 1138
Banned
How many months is secret Wars running? There should be enough time for the new series to rack up enough issues to be collected in trade and if the sales are strong they can be relaunched with new #1's once the new universe gets going just like DC did with New 52 and Marvel did with Marvel Now (Captain Marvel, Daredevil and several other books stopped and relaunched with new #1's)
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Deleted member 13876
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As long as they drop the idea of the movies and shows being alternate universes they could get rid of the multiverse idea. I'm expecting Marvel to shake things up and ongoings(even new ones) will be replaced at the end of Secret Wars or retooled.
Gambit 1138
Banned
Not sure what's funny. One look at the monthly solicitations can tell you its already been happening for awhile (Black Nick Fury, Brining in Coulson and Agents of SHIELD, new Ant-Man ongoing with movie status quo, Star Lord redesigned to be like movie version, Howard the Duck back looking like movie version and tieing in with the collector, Guardians of the Galaxy becoming more like movie versions, Quicksilver/Scarlet Witch retcon, movie avengers lineup being the core Avengers group even though characters like Hulk weren't associated with the Avengers for decades, etc.) The writing has been on the wall for some time.
I mean just look at this cover:
That lineup is not a coincidence I can tell you that
Not sure what's funny. One look at the monthly solicitations can tell you its already been happening for awhile (Black Nick Fury, Brining in Coulson and Agents of SHIELD, new Ant-Man ongoing with movie status quo, Star Lord redesigned to be like movie version, Howard the Duck back looking like movie version and tieing in with the collector, Guardians of the Galaxy becoming more like movie versions, Quicksilver/Scarlet Witch retcon, movie avengers lineup being the core Avengers group even though characters like Hulk weren't associated with the Avengers for decades, etc.) The writing has been on the wall for some time.
I mean just look at this cover:
That lineup is not a coincidence I can tell you that
With Spidey because toy rights.
crimsonspider89
Banned
Yep. And then they point at a cover for a book that is mostly unaffects other books as proof.
Not sure what's funny. One look at the monthly solicitations can tell you its already been happening for awhile (Black Nick Fury, Brining in Coulson and Agents of SHIELD, new Ant-Man ongoing with movie status quo, Star Lord redesigned to be like movie version, Howard the Duck back looking like movie version and tieing in with the collector, Guardians of the Galaxy becoming more like movie versions, Quicksilver/Scarlet Witch retcon, movie avengers lineup being the core Avengers group even though characters like Hulk weren't associated with the Avengers for decades, etc.) The writing has been on the wall for some time.
I mean just look at this cover:
That lineup is not a coincidence I can tell you that
Avengers being Avengers? We are through the looking glass folks.
Thats the thing though, they are saying it is. I dont see this as a reboot. pretty much my understanding of what they said is 616 has been destroyed except for new york .which means pretty much all the super heros are fine but are now coping with this new world and the fact earth has been destroyed. it doesnt seem to change what happened in the past like new 52 did. the thing they mentioned about things changing doesnt have to mean changes to continutiy but to the new status quo. shit im sure a crap load of people are now dead. great lakes avengers, dead(hopefully). Wakanda ,gone. If theres anything to change continuity wise I see is brand new day is being undone.
Father_Brain
Banned
Eight issues over 4-5 months.
Yeah and even before that, Carol thought she could take on a Hulk and not punched in to orbit?
Seriously. This is getting embarrassing.
Comic readers vs. tumblr comic fans.
Manmademan
Member
Not sure what's funny. One look at the monthly solicitations can tell you its already been happening for awhile (Black Nick Fury, Brining in Coulson and Agents of SHIELD, new Ant-Man ongoing with movie status quo, Star Lord redesigned to be like movie version, Howard the Duck back looking like movie version and tieing in with the collector, Guardians of the Galaxy becoming more like movie versions, Quicksilver/Scarlet Witch retcon, movie avengers lineup being the core Avengers group even though characters like Hulk weren't associated with the Avengers for decades, etc.) The writing has been on the wall for some time.
I mean just look at this cover:
That lineup is not a coincidence I can tell you that
you're aware that there are about a thousand avengers members right now, and cherry picking half a dozen of them who aren't even on the same squad (spidey=mighty, wanda and QS=uncanny, Cap=still 90 years old and not a field agent, etc) is LOLworthy, right
Gambit 1138
Banned
Hulk has very little history with the avengers as far as I know. He was in the first few issues and that was it up until the Avengers movie in 2012 and right when that came out he was suddenly associated with the team again after 50 years not being an avenger.
Brand New Day being undone is possible and the thing about Gwen Stacy being brought back could be Spider-Gwen related.
Beast should be reconned out of existence.
Father_Brain
Banned
Arguing about SW ramifications aside: holy shit, this cover. I'm embarrassed that I know exactly where Christian Thor on the far right is from, but not a bunch of the presumably less obscure ones.
BrokenFiction
Member
Scarlet Witch is staring at Spidey's butt.
There is your problem.
shadyspace
Banned
Okay so you trolling now.
Manmademan
Member
holy shit, that's a new one even to ME. Please tell me where a christian thor beating heads in with a crucifix comes from? I NEED to know this
I get what you're saying, but right now isn't exactly the right time to bring up this argument when you consider what's going on with the movie heroes currently and how spread out some of them are from each other.
Manmademan
Member
Thor Girl AND Red Norvel? Shit someone did their homework.
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