3rdman said:
That the biggest I've yet seen of Pac-Bama.
I keep seeing these Pac-Man graphs in these threads, but I'm unclear on what the "Win Percentage" value represents.
3rdman said:
That the biggest I've yet seen of Pac-Bama.
Cheebs said:I went and checked, they got the outcome right in 2004 in their tracker.
zesty said:I keep seeing these Pac-Man graphs in these threads, but I'm unclear on what the "Win Percentage" value represents.
Nazgul_Hunter said:Just means that in their statistical simulations, Obama wins 80% of the time
zesty said:I keep seeing these Pac-Man graphs in these threads, but I'm unclear on what the "Win Percentage" value represents.
zesty said:I keep seeing these Pac-Man graphs in these threads, but I'm unclear on what the "Win Percentage" value represents.
That's why I always look at things in the aggregate. pollster.com updated a graph at the request of Daily Kos - this is the Dem presidential nominee's lead (or not) for the 2000, 2004 and this year in their composite national tracking.StoOgE said:and Ras has a Republican lean of about +2 on their daily tracking poll while Gallup is about neutral and R2K has about a +2-3 Dem lean, so the race is right around 7-8 points most likely.
Snaku said:Man I hope I'm home in time for the debate. Going to the Rays first playoff game on Thursday, and it's a 2:30 game.
gkrykewy said:Stock market is getting killed.
Nice, all five are states we need updated polling on. I'm especially interested in VA and CO.Fragamemnon said:Couple of other polling notes:
Ras will be out with a poll of the following states this evening:
Colorado
Florida
Ohio
Pennsylvania
Virginia
I think the Virginia poll tonight might the bombshell. It's been increasingly out of reach for McCain since the Obama surge started, and the results there (confirming a strong, Colorado-style Obama lead) could dramatically alter the McCain campaign's strategy.
Second, watch for the daily Gallup tracker to maybe hit a double digit lead sometime this week with the news all focused on the terrible Sarah Palin. Watch for the corresponding freakout by the McCain campaign and we'll see if they can prevent themselves from doing anything stupid in response.
Down 300. Yeowch.gkrykewy said:Stock market is getting killed.
gkrykewy said:Stock market is getting killed.
gkrykewy said:Stock market is getting killed.
GhaleonEB said:Nice, all five are states we need updated polling on. I'm especially interested in VA and CO.
gkrykewy said:Stock market is getting killed.
RubxQub said:Pre-spin is the new spin.
VanMardigan said:I'm not sure why McCain didn't just go with Huck. You get the same energizing of the base with the evangelicals, yet Huck is a far more knowledgeable candidate than Palin.
-330 for the day so far (dow)gkrykewy said:Stock market is getting killed.
Amirox, could you please include a post when you close a thread? I'm not going to go all Triumph on you, but some Mod Courtesy would be appreciated.The Chosen One said:*was still refreshing old thread*
Fragamemnon said:Couple of other polling notes:
Ras will be out with a poll of the following states this evening:
Colorado
Florida
Ohio
Pennsylvania
Virginia
I think the Virginia poll tonight might the bombshell. It's been increasingly out of reach for McCain since the Obama surge started, and the results there (confirming a strong, Colorado-style Obama lead) could dramatically alter the McCain campaign's strategy.
Second, watch for the daily Gallup tracker to maybe hit a double digit lead sometime this week with the news all focused on the terrible Sarah Palin. Watch for the corresponding freakout by the McCain campaign and we'll see if they can prevent themselves from doing anything stupid in response.
VanMardigan said:If last summer's front runners had won (Guiliani, Clinton) we would probably be looking at a Huckabee/Obama debate this thursday, or probably Huckabee/Clark. I'm thinking Romney would probably have gone with Huck as well. Matter of fact, I'm not sure why McCain didn't just go with Huck. You get the same energizing of the base with the evangelicals, yet Huck is a far more knowledgeable candidate than Palin.
The only explanation I can think of is wanting the Hillary women, but that backfired. Why am I on this hypothetical? I dunno.
FF_VIII said:http://i38.tinypic.com/10h53wn.gif[IMG][/QUOTE]
...why was this even posted :lol
It's something. We'll see how Rasmussen sizes it up later today.kkaabboomm said:http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2008/09/news-flash-mcca.html
"Yet another poll shows a super-tight race in the nation's largest battleground state. American Research Group's survey of 600 voters found Democrat Barack Obama receiving 47 percent, compared to Republican John McCain with 46 percent. Margin of error is plus or minus 4 percent."
more: http://www.americanresearchgroup.com/pres2008/FL08.html
it's an ARG poll, but still, 47-46...
El_TigroX said:Hey folks,
I wanted to write a post to give you guys an idea of what it's like to volunteer for a political campaign.
I am from Bucks County, PA but now live near New York. I volunteered to go down to Lehigh County (Allentown, Bethlehem - basically an hour north of Philly) for the Obama campaign to canvas for voters.
There were 200 people that came out on Saturday (the highest yet I was told, most likely because of the debate). I got a list of about 65 voters from about 45 addresses and set out to go knock on some doors.
You don't just randomly knock on doors - you randomly knock on doors of people that are already registered voters - in this case with no party affiliation or independent or Republicans that have a history of voting for Democrat candidates. So you knock on their door and talk to them about the election and gauge if they are leaning Obama or McCain. If they are undecided, you ask them questions about the topics that they are focused on this election. You then talk about your candidates position.
I'll tell you what, you feel great doing this. This is 1 on 1 dialogue with people that are interested in politics and come from a different world than your own. I loved it.
Rural PA still needs to come a long way. I heard the "muslim" line from a few people and was called a "N***** lover" by one classy gentleman. Needless to say, I walked away immediately.
But there was some great silver lining - I got 10 new voters registered and seemingly convinced another 5 voters that were on the fence to at the very least look more into Obama's stances vs. McCain's on their important issues.
If you guys have any free time on the upcoming weekends, give a call to your local office... it's definitely a great experience. The end.
FF_VIII said:http://i38.tinypic.com/10h53wn.gif[IMG][/QUOTE]
wat
VanMardigan said:Matter of fact, I'm not sure why McCain didn't just go with Huck.
RubxQub said:...why was this even posted :lol
RubxQub said:Also: John talks about the eye contact situation at the debate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixcR6Ggy4Io
RubxQub said:Also: John talks about the eye contact situation at the debate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixcR6Ggy4Io
liar.RubxQub said:Also: John talks about the eye contact situation at the debate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixcR6Ggy4Io
Shiggie said:
it's not fair that she's unexperienced! sexism!!RubxQub said:FoxNews and Pfottneksherzer already pre-spinning the debate as unfair to Sarah Palin!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MENUu--lTS4
Pre-spin is the new spin.
Obama communications director Robert Gibbs dukes it out with the hosts of Fox and Friends in a heated exchange over the bracelet Obama highlighted during Fridays debate, given to him by the mother of a fallen solider.
Steve Doocy and Brian Kilmeade suggested the soldiers family had asked Obama not to wear the bracelet, which Gibbs denied.
Gibbs: Lets get the facts right before we start making stuff up on the news.
Kilmeade: Dont say were making stuff up! Unbelievable Goodbye.
Followed by an awkward toss to commercial.
Huffington Article said:Despite bad reviews from all sides, John McCain's campaign has decided that having Sarah Palin do big broadcast interviews was a good idea, the National Review reports:
I'm told McCain recently expressed unhappiness with his staff's handling of Palin. On Sunday he dispatched his top aides Steve Schmidt and Rick Davis to join Palin in Philadelphia. They're supposed to liberate Palin to go on the offensive as a combative conservative in the vice-presidential debate on Thursday.
The Wall Street Journal has more on Palin's liberation:
More broadly, the McCain campaign aims to halt what it sees as a perceived decline in the crispness and precision of Gov. Palin's latest remarks as well as a fall in recent polls, according to several advisers and party officials.
...
Some prominent Republicans and senior members of Congress have expressed worries about certain facets of the Palin campaign, particularly that Gov. Palin may be "overprepared" and not encouraged to be herself, an adviser said.
...
"It's time to let Palin be Palin -- and let it all hang out," said Scott Reed, a Republican strategist."
FF_VIII said:
Ya...THAT'S the problem with Palin. I cant imagine what she would sound like "unprepared" by McCain campaign standards then.RubxQub said:LOVE the overprepared statement. Left in the interesting stuff, but full article link below.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/29/free-palin-mccain-camp-re_n_130146.html