Resetera reflects: This place sucks. We want GAF back.

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I've been tracking the numbers of Reset for awhile and did two experiments with accounts there with some volunteers. Since January and ending in August.

One thing to note is they boast their numbers but their membership (after removing bans) and their active posting rate is splitting further and further apart. There is a top 19% of posters doing over 40% of the posting.

Then I and some others took some accounts in the following experiment, one half would post in active threads, and one half would posts in slow threads. We made sure all accounts had zero posts before we started.

All 17 accounts were banned. None of them cursed or attacked another user, that's the big thing, the posts made were generally about the topic or/and the opinion of the subject posted in the OP, not any interaction with other members (except DMs which I'll get to).

3 of the accounts were banned for attacking users. Which is impossible for the reasons I said above yet it happened.

4 accounts were Pm'ed by members that didn't agree with the views that were posted. We had 2 respond back, one saying please leave me alone, and then reporting the DM, and the other just continuing the conversation in PM expressing the opinion and asking for no hard feelings.

Both accounts were banned for harassing others users via DM even though the users being replied to where the senders themselves.

The rest were banned for numerous other reasons. One was banned for being transphobic because one member posted a link to some study and our account posted a link from the SAME website showing that the study was wrong.

One said that were disrespectful for women by saying that "some women have lied in the past, but I believe that these ladies are innocent, still we should never immediately assume no women ever lies. But that's a different topic" for the kavanugh stuff.

One was banned because people were talking about what character they picked in some fighting game and people were talking about women being in bikinis or other outfits and our account said "I wouldn't want to play as a women because of all this." which got a bunch of responses and we defend ourselves by saying "it disrespects women to play as bikini women for sex" which is EXACTLY what the thread was about...... Yet we were banned because we didn't support women empowerment. But...the thread was complaining about sexualization of women in....ugh...

Then there were times we copied other members posts from earlier in large threads, including debate threads, mostly in off-topic but some on the gamer side, and we got banned for those posts despite them being made by a senior member and people coming to agree with their opinion. We were banned because of the content in the post, not for copying it. So it seems post account allows you to post against popular opinions apparently. Which is uh... Dumb. So any new users not really agreeing with a set hive mind in a thread is basically banned imediately even if they copied another member with a high post count who has people comment positively on his opinion.

The rest were banned for either small reasons or in some cases with no message at all. Transparent huh?

I personally have an account on there but almost every thread I look at thinking I can post in it I come back from to it and then there's like 7 people in the grave. Posting with a count below 20 during sweep means any post you make has a 90% chance of getting you to join them regardless of what the post is about.

The fact NPD let's Matt post there is baffling, or maybe they don't really care since he's being vague. But I know many companies that aren't going to have people post on Reset or here (since here was just like reset before they launched the site. I hope one day New Neogaf can attract these guys again.
Thank you for your effort and time. Interesting results.
 
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That’s a good thing?
I was unhappy about his actions in that regard and discussed it sufficiently to get banned here over it. From my perspective: No. The minor voice acting job of that Youtuber should just have been ignored. The aggressive behaviour against the developers in that case lead to a marketing disaster that probably hurt the sales of one of my two favourite games the last three years.
 
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I was unhappy about his actions in that regard and discussed it sufficiently to get banned here over it. From my perspective: No. The minor voice acting job of that Youtuber should just have been ignored. The aggressive behaviour against the developers in that case lead to a marketing disaster that probably hurt the sales of one of my two favourite games the last three years.
Do you mean the A Hat in Time or Yooka Laylee?

Because as far as i know HiT sold well enough, and i only saw complaints about this youtuber voice being in the game
on old Gaf.

Yooka Laylee on the other hand had a really hard backlash for removing this youtuber from the game
 

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All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
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I have been reading resetera daily ever since it first started...I regret that I assumed it was basically the same as Neogaf L....I felt like...wow, what has happened?

Honestly, I am considered a liberal by most people, but by RESETERA standards I am alt right...because I like Joe Rogan and I don't hate some of the more moderate Republicans in the US....

They have such a hostile and toxic atmosphere there...like most of the posters reply with:

"Fuck ______!!" and "_______ is a piece of shit" referring to the collider crew, John Campea, Joe Rogan, John McCain, David Duke, Bill Maher, Khamala Harris, Joe Biden, or Trump...

It's like geez when did millenials become so black and white? Have we regressed?

Then I started coming back here recently and realized....RESETERA was maybe influencing me and that they don't reflect the typical millenial liberal.

RESETERA also hates redlettermedia / plinkett now....claims redlettermedia is an alt right channel...W..T...F?!?!
I must ask, why do you have David Duke in that list? He is an actual piece of shit.
 
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Was this Cerium guy some sort of a bigshot on the oldGAF?
Mod.

Speaking of, I wonder what Era would be like if Amirox made it.
He was the whiny pissant who cried about a person he didn't like being in A Hat in Time. The developers told 'im to fuck off.
You can say Jon Trons name on gaf now since the site change no need to be scared lol.
 
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Exactly. He doesn't belong on the list, but resetera acts like everything is on an equal scale of 100% good or 100% bad.
It's not about who you like, it's how far you deviate from the core of the hive. The farther you go the more horrible you are. Some guy liked Ben Carson which immediately made him "not likely a black person as he only is liked by white racists" and when he said Ben arson has done more for Blacks than Kapernick and posted actual lengthy post of evidence the post was removed and he was banned for being racist.

Not a single white person was discussed in the argument but he was banned for being racist. By saying Ben Carson, who has given money and opened schools, did more than a Football player who has 5x the cash of carson and has done nothing but help the media find a new trend to jump on.

Oh and if you are a new member never have a neutral stance in a thread. Just either avoid the thread or pretend to agree. If you post a neutral post in an argument or a hive mind thread and you aren't banned but called out, immediately respond taking back your neutral stance. If you don't post but a few times every other day check your notification because if someone in the thread calls you out and you don't respond in a few hours and a mod notices you'll be banned.
 
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Speaking of mods, I wonder how era would be if Amirox lead it instead of Cerium.
He wasn't a mod during the Yooka-Laylee debate, was he made a mod for the couple of weeks afterwards until Resetera came up or was he already an ex-mod?
Wasn't he removed as a mod once and then reinstated before the incident where he was demodded again?

But no, he couldn't have been a mod before Resetera because near a year before that for months he was being arrested for CP.

Based on your post I guess you didn't know about that. Here you go: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/former-neogaf-mod-arrested-for-child-porn.1400332/
 
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Speaking of mods, I wonder how era would be if Amirox lead it instead of Cerium.


Wasn't he removed as a mod once and then reinstated before the incident where he was demodded again?

But no, he couldn't have been a mod before Resetera because near a year before that for months he was being arrested for CP.

Based on your post I guess you didn't know about that. Here you go: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/former-neogaf-mod-arrested-for-child-porn.1400332/
I was talking about Cerium.
 
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Putting aside all the quarrels, Alexa Rank for ResetEra is like 3000 sth, while GAF barely makes it to the first 10000. So despite all the bullshit there, the site is doing quite well.
It's likely because of those top percentage of posters and their links. Because on other services they are much closer and on Google Neogaf is ahead.

Of course it is more active. Until you cut the top 19% then it's only slightly more active.
 
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When you go to ResetEra.live, under the logo, you get a message that the site will be permanently banned on January first of 2019 for some bullshit reasons. They where hacked or the RSS reader, the only semi-usable thing related to Era will disappear?
 

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Speaking of mods, I wonder how era would be if Amirox lead it instead of Cerium.
Well to add fuel to that: Besada did play a part in ERA's early days.

Wasn't he removed as a mod once and then reinstated before the incident where he was demodded again?
''Demodded, not denutted.''
I believe that was the case. But Amirox (And Opiate) are special people. The latter really skirted off the edge, and Ami.. well, Bill Cosby is one of his housemates, believe it or not.

I think it's riffing on the ban-happy culture over there:


The user who made this just took a side regarding the policy of the site. Its a silent protest.

A clever one though. Good for a chuckle.
 
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Well to add fuel to that: Besada did play a part in ERA's early days.


''Demodded, not denutted.''
I believe that was the case. But Amirox (And Opiate) are special people. The latter really skirted off the edge, and Ami.. well, Bill Cosby is one of his housemates, believe it or not.



The user who made this just took a side regarding the policy of the site. Its a silent protest.

A clever one though. Good for a chuckle.
What happened with opiate?
 
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What happened with opiate?
He discussed, as far as I remember, the difference between being pedophile and acting on it, while talking to a victim of (sexual) child abuse, while he was a mod and was demodded by @EviLore as a punishment because it was deemed inappropriate and insensitive to discuss these differentiations with someone who has suffered from associated crimes. Boss guy will probably remember in more detail, so I linked him.
 
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Uhm, is such pedo shit allowed on Era now? :messenger_open_mouth:

Those sick fucks are disgusting and should be locked or chemically castrated.

Honestly, just line them up against the wall. We ought to have the firing squad for people who molest children.

I wonder if #ShootAlmaguer would get banned off Twitter, or if they would protect it as legitimate speech like #HangAsia?
 
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Image is out of context, just to show how fuckin repulsive people can be. For Yoshi's post, the guy opiate is a pedo (active or not), and Amirox is one too. I've seen some shit on Kiwi Farms for the OldGAF where some fuckhead (women too) wrote about their fantasies with underaged boys and girls.
 
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Image is out of context, just to show how fuckin repulsive people can be. For Yoshi's post, the guy opiate is a pedo (active or not), and Amirox is one too. I've seen some shit on Kiwi Farms for the OldGAF where some fuckhead (women too) wrote about their fantasies with underaged boys and girls.
Sorry if I misworded, but I have no information on Opiate being a pedo and I did not want to claim he is a pedo.
 
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No need to worry, ERA is self regulating when it comes to chemically castrating it's community. Hell, making sure you are no longer fertile seems to be how you prove yourself as dedicated to the cause.
 
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Resetera fell into a panic last night. Immediately blamed it on gerrymandering and voter surpression.

See my issue with Era is that they like to pretend their side doesn't do anything wrong so they just think only the side they are not on does things wrong. i mean If a GOP did Illinois district 4 gerrymandering there would be riots.

And of course they attacked Evilore and everyone here like we did something. Because..................................................................................................................................................................

Anyway moving on.

Uhm, is such pedo shit allowed on Era now? :messenger_open_mouth:
I know you say this out of context as an example but Era did have a few threads about how peds can't control their behavior and they should be treated fairly like LGBT members because they are born that way. They did to be fair say they shouldn't act on it.
 
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Attacked EviLore and GAFs current userbase? More details, please :)

As for defending pedos and trying to make them a legitimate part of LGBT community... What can I say. Kill then with fire. Well, I'm straight, literally know shit about LGBT. But maybe @I'm new be nice could write what's the general consensus on pedos in their community.
 
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In certain districts, that's definitely true. Especially given how close some of the House races came out.
Except they only blamed it on one side. Which is a dangerous mindset that makes it hard for them to see why their party is splitting 4 different ways and finding out what their doing wrong.

Generally the issue there is that their side never does anything wrong to them. The reasons there's issue is because of everyone else outside of that. This of course leads to inevitable conclusions and aggression.

Also now that I think about it, I know they side with the democrats but their ideology seems to be on some radical side. They don't like traditional democrats, they don't like, generally, the green parties.

And don't get them started on third parties, dude said if you vote third party you might as well be a racist because you voted for Trump and that was something they did here before the move.
 
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Partisans on either side are not exactly known for reflection. That mindset is, I'd say, very human.
No see this don't work. The two both do it, one does it to a far more dangerous degree than the other, and many recent events have shown what happens if the bubble mind becomes an inescapable prison.

Usually all other sides, including third parties, will adjust or start doing some observations after losing or thing don't go as planned. Then they change or remove people who are issues. Era and the far radical end of politics don't do this.

One thing you have to realize is era aren't democrats. They have proven this multiple times, they don't even agree with a 3rd of the parties platform just the parts that the media is making into controversies. Otherwise they seem to be in this radical bubble. They don't like Bernie so they aren't really socialist democrats, though a chunk of the community is. So i'm not sure what they are.

One independent media outlet in 2017 reportedly mentioned Era was the opposite stormfront. I always found that comparison interesting.
 
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Attacked EviLore and GAFs current userbase? More details, please :)

As for defending pedos and trying to make them a legitimate part of LGBT community... What can I say. Kill then with fire. Well, I'm straight, literally know shit about LGBT. But maybe @I'm new be nice could write what's the general consensus on pedos in their community.
I can't speak for a whole community and I wouldn't dare try, I can only speak for myself.

I consider anyone who has those feelings and acts on them a reprehensible criminal, simple as that.
 
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Image is out of context, just to show how fuckin repulsive people can be. For Yoshi's post, the guy opiate is a pedo (active or not), and Amirox is one too. I've seen some shit on Kiwi Farms for the OldGAF where some fuckhead (women too) wrote about their fantasies with underaged boys and girls.
IIRC, Opiate wasn't a pedo, just a strange pedo defender. He told a poster who was talking about being molested as a child and how it hurt her that her testimony could cause innocent pedophiles to be hurt, or something along those lines. Basically called her a fearmonger, then banned her.
 
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IIRC, Opiate wasn't a pedo, just a strange pedo defender. He told a poster who was talking about being molested as a child and how it hurt her that her testimony could cause innocent pedophiles to be hurt, or something along those lines. Basically called her a fearmonger, then banned her.
Odd that's what happened in that Era thread as well. Sadly Opiate is not welcome there. Neither is Bish either (they went in on him in the er diversity thread).

Speaking of which i wonder what Bish has been doing. Anybody find out why he was demodded?
 
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Arrrghhh
So as a Male what would be the correct way to approach a female that you dont know and ask for a date/phone number?

I understand some small talk would be the beginning but the way they are banning people I could classed as a verbal rapist and am violating their mindspace with my vocabular mansplaning if I asked them how their day was.


Seriously some of these women/females will end up like the cat lady off the simpsons
 
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Arrrghhh
So as a Male what would be the correct way to approach a female that you dont know and ask for a date/phone number?
For people who have issues with being approched by strangers: There is no correct way, if you do not know them from other contexts, do not approach them, end of story.

On a related note: I have been a victim of being approached (non sexually) by a stranger on a bus about playing Crash Bandicoot on the Switch just today. She talked a bit about video games with me and how she was playing Diablo with her so on PC. Nothing bad happened to me, nor did I feel bad about it, so it might not actually be a dangerous situation.
 
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Then the election happened and Trump won. One of my ex-admins, bishoptl, got angry about election-related matters and actively sabotaged the forum. He logged his bans that were justifiable within the site rules, and generally gave people appropriate ban explanation messages in those cases. However, he also banned several hundred more people in quick succession, out of anger, for *not being angry enough* about the election. He didn't log these bans administratively, he generally told the users something along the lines of "fuck off" in the user-facing message, and he lied to me at every turn when I was mobilizing to find out what the hell was going on with Off-Topic that seemed to be depriving it of all maturity, reason, sense, and moderate opinion suddenly. Finally I saw something suspicious enough play out that I checked the system logs, and everything revealed itself plainly. We were descending into madness because all the sane people were being stealth banned en masse by bish. I reviewed approximately 100 of the stealth bans one by one and reversed ~90% of them per the actual rules governing the site. But discourse here was already falling apart and our old platform sucked for communicating with users during mod actions, so people started account suiciding after I reversed the bans -- rightfully pissed off about the unjust nature of them. It was all a mess and I focused on trying to be a voice of reason on GAF itself and get the mod team onto a more neutral page going forward instead of going through the remainder of the bish bans.

Way too many people lost their accounts unjustly. I apologize for my part in it. It was a difficult time and we didn't have great tools on the old-ass platform to detect foul play, and besides that the political circus in the United States introduced significant bias into the site moderation here.

I've pulled the rest of bishtoptl's post-election permanent bans, and the permanent bans performed by the ex-mod who stealth banned over 100 regulars simply for not participating in the witch hunt going on last October (sigh, what a wretched way to be), as well as a big chunk of the October/November permanent bans site-wide that were not performed up to our typical standards. I will review each ban personally, one by one, and reverse them as appropriate.
Yeah, that was a thing I remember it well. Large grave yards. Oddly he wouldn't be out of place as a mod on the other site because that's what they did for the election two days ago.
 
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For people who have issues with being approched by strangers: There is no correct way, if you do not know them from other contexts, do not approach them, end of story.

On a related note: I have been a victim of being approached (non sexually) by a stranger on a bus about playing Crash Bandicoot on the Switch just today. She talked a bit about video games with me and how she was playing Diablo with her so on PC. Nothing bad happened to me, nor did I feel bad about it, so it might not actually be a dangerous situation.
The issue is....how would such person meet other people to form relationships....have we progressed from giving a flower or a note or flirty gesture to someone of the opposite sex as a romantic gesture or courtship to they are a sexual predator because I didn't ask for this???

Is society that fucked now???
 
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The issue is....how would such person meet other people to form relationships....have we progressed from giving a flower or a note or flirty gesture to someone of the opposite sex as a romantic gesture or courtship to they are a sexual predator because I didn't ask for this???

Is society that fucked now???
Today you swipe to the right bro.