Regulus Tera
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DS JRPGs are superior because NO LOAD TIMES.
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So I realized Final Fantasy IX is approaching its ten year anniversary in America
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Fantasy Final
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Fixed for yaRegulus Tera said:
Pureauthor
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Himuro said:
Well FFIX on the DS would almost be guaranteed to be better than FFIX on the PS1 because of that.
It's not even the load times that were the biggest fault with FFIX. The battle speed itself was ridiculously slow.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Fantasy Final said:
I'm okay with this!
Fimbulvetr
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So at the rate that FF games are being remade on portables, when should we bump into 9?
Prime crotch
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A lot of the secret content was found only by the use of a guide. Not cool.Man God said:
Shouldn't it? It's loading from the hdd, guess I wont be buying Blood Omen then.Amir0x said:
Pureauthor
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Fimbulvetr said:
Hell if I know. One of the reasons I wanted the DS was that once they finished off the FFAdvance ports they could move on to rereleasing PS game. But nooooooooo, they went backwards and started releasing from FFIII. (FFI and II, even, if you count PSP.) Bleh.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Himuro said:
Pointless discussion, since the SNES has a superior JRPG library.
Fimbulvetr said:
Long-term contingency plan. Their PSX JRPGs will only be remade when their shares are like ten cents or something.
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Regulus Tera said:
I never even noticed load times as a kid on PSOne until I bought FF Anthology, and even then it was only 6. 5 was absolutely fine. I know replaying stuff now makes it feel ridiculously slow, but back then it was pure RPG bliss.
SatelliteOfLove
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Good but didn't light a fire under me. Slow battles, meandering 2nd half, and Insta-Boss brand Final Boss dulls my enthusiasm over the great rest of the game.
Fantasy Final
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FFIII on DS is a great port. The game itself is just meh.Pureauthor said:
Prime crotch
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Three enemies max at screen and new lame story, not that great of a port.Fantasy Final said:
Fantasy Final
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So you're saying FFXIII is better than FFIX?Magnus said:
The first 2 discs worth of game were utterly fantastic, disc 3/4 though.... the plot has the second most catastrophic downturn in the entire series and the gameplay features reach a point where the technical limitations of the hardware become too much of an issue ( Where else in the series can you cast a buff and have its timer wear off before you get a turn because of in battle load times).
The first 2 discs though, man they were good. It's the most enjoyment I've had with any FF game post 6 playing the first half of this game. Arguably it's the last consistent FF game too, X had an interesting combat system and looked great for 2001 but has little else going for it(and the post game content was so bad it turned me away from the genre altogether for the better part of the last decade), XI was online and even for an MMO was just way to complicated and punishing to get into for long enough to get to the "fun" parts. XII was actually really well done but lacked focus, it's almost funny to think about but my issue with it isn't that it wasn't fun or anything, my issue is that there's TOO MUCH game in there. I've also heard its story collapses a bit towards the proverbial 11th hour but I put it on the shelf about halfway through. XIII is a fantastic tech demo but it's barely a game and again, I've grown bored enough with it's gameplay(what little there is) that it went on the shelf at the start of Ch.9. XIV isn't worth mentioning because it flat out isn't finished. This is disappointing on many levels (I was interested in it, if my ffxiv beta avatar didn't make that apparent)but until they "fix" the game for it's ps3 launch and throw out an expansion pack it's barely worth playing.
The future of the series doesn't look so bright either, FFversus will for sure have more game in it then standard XIII and I'd gather it will be better but to me it still looks the same as the last few entries in too many ways. I suppose it's simply too much to ask of square to cater only to my tastes and make a new expensive final fantasy game that is basically an HD version of FF6 but perhaps before I die it'll happen.
The first 2 discs though, man they were good. It's the most enjoyment I've had with any FF game post 6 playing the first half of this game. Arguably it's the last consistent FF game too, X had an interesting combat system and looked great for 2001 but has little else going for it(and the post game content was so bad it turned me away from the genre altogether for the better part of the last decade), XI was online and even for an MMO was just way to complicated and punishing to get into for long enough to get to the "fun" parts. XII was actually really well done but lacked focus, it's almost funny to think about but my issue with it isn't that it wasn't fun or anything, my issue is that there's TOO MUCH game in there. I've also heard its story collapses a bit towards the proverbial 11th hour but I put it on the shelf about halfway through. XIII is a fantastic tech demo but it's barely a game and again, I've grown bored enough with it's gameplay(what little there is) that it went on the shelf at the start of Ch.9. XIV isn't worth mentioning because it flat out isn't finished. This is disappointing on many levels (I was interested in it, if my ffxiv beta avatar didn't make that apparent)but until they "fix" the game for it's ps3 launch and throw out an expansion pack it's barely worth playing.
The future of the series doesn't look so bright either, FFversus will for sure have more game in it then standard XIII and I'd gather it will be better but to me it still looks the same as the last few entries in too many ways. I suppose it's simply too much to ask of square to cater only to my tastes and make a new expensive final fantasy game that is basically an HD version of FF6 but perhaps before I die it'll happen.
Himuro said:
Sorry, I guess I'm lumping both into it all. But shit, taking the loads on their own, they were atrocious. I'd stare at a black screen for 5-8 seconds sometimes as the droning battle music started up before the battle would load, and then the slow-ass camera panning around would begin.
Actually, I often assumed that the lengthy camera pans around weren't just stylistic but actually trying to hide the load of the battle engine, or something. Sort of like the door animations in the Resident Evil games.
Fantasy Final said:
What?
At battle loads and battle speed? Anyone with a pulse would say the same thing.
Battle speed is about the only thing FFXIII got right.
JimboJones
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Himuro said:
But the ds games used fully 3d rendered enviorments if it was using prerendered backgrounds isn't there more polygons available for the characters? Plus I think there style was more of an artistic choice.
As for the game it's self it's not my favourite final fantasy but I do like it, wanted to replay it recently but my disc 1 is scratched and freezes
cartman414
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Would it theoretically be possible to hack the default ATB fill speed to something faster?
QuiteWhittle
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I disagree.Fantasy Final said:
It's a horrible port.
flintstryker
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was playing this got bored on disc three where i a suppose to go save that little girl i think.
demosthenes
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I love this game!
Rahxephon91
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I could go with that.Fantasy Final said:
Yeah, the game has some incredibly bad load times. Don't think I could play the game these days, but then again I only played IX maybe a in 08 I think so whatever.
I really enjoyed the main cast though. Zidanne was a pretty awesome main character. I wish we would get more FF leads like him. I didn't like the "who am I type" crap though. It felt really tacked on because that's what jrpgs did at the time. Unneeded and stupid.
I really like the ability system though. Nice and simple. We need more systems like that.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Himuro said:
It's one thing to have to deal with load times once every six minutes in FFXII when you change areas and another to have to deal with load times every forty seconds because RANDOM BATTLES.
Himuro said:
Okay.
Super Famicom's JRPG library is better than the PSX.
Fantasy Final
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FFX was awesome too, on par with FFIX for me. But after the S-E merger, yeah, downhill.Lebron said:
demosthenes
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I wonder...if the PSP2 will be backwards compatible with the PSP in some way or be able to play games like FFVII, VIII and IX from PSN.
How About No
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Technically my first 3d FF <3
demosthenes
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Kyoufu said:Damn this thread makes me want to play FFIX again. I've already played it 5 times! They don't make JRPGs like this any more.
I really want a PSP pretty much for FF games on the go...
H_Prestige
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entrement said:
SE really should not touch this game. They would only tarnish it.
H_Prestige
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demosthenes said:
Any Playstation device from here on out will have full PS1 emulation so FFVII, VIII, IX, and Tactics will always be available to play.
Eh, I didn't really care for X. The only thing that grabbed me was the overall presentation(CGI and graphics). They had some good tracks here and there, but the overall soundtrack was lackluster in comparison to past titles. Umetasu was burned out after IX, and the help didn't really add anything worth wild for me. Everything else was been there done that. Though I rather play through X 100 times than have to deal with the titles that followed after it. Good god, Square.Fantasy Final said:
Rahxephon91
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I thought IX was perhaps his weakest soundtrack. I also thought that was the general consensus as well. Well, I know that IX has the least amount of songs on my ipod compared to the others.
secretanchitman
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great game, played it when the 2004 olympics were on. i did hate the abnormal loading time (i came from playing ff7/ff8 on the pc, with minimal loading times) - it was reminding me of ff anthology and its atrocious loading times.
i just wanted to rush to the end, so i had severely underleveled characters .everyone died at the final boss, except for freya, because i kept having her "jump" so she would miss getting hit every other turn :lol
i did hate the abnormal loading time (i came from playing ff7/ff8 on the pc, with minimal loading times) - it was reminding me of ff anthology and its atrocious loading times.i just wanted to rush to the end, so i had severely underleveled characters .everyone died at the final boss, except for freya, because i kept having her "jump" so she would miss getting hit every other turn :lol
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
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I can't believe it's been 10 years already.
But yeah, great game.
But yeah, great game.