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Germany is known for bukkakes and they censore gore??
fucking backwards.
yeah because dismemberment of body parts is much less disturbing than sex fetishes?
worst post of the year.
Germany is known for bukkakes and they censore gore??
fucking backwards.
ALL European versions (Australian version too) are cut regarding the multiplayer.Wait, so PEGI games are censored but UK games are not? Fuck it, I'm getting my games from Amazing UK from now on. Is there a list of which games have stuff cut? And what about games from the EU PSN?
Is there any reason why the two SKUs cant work together in multiplayer? If it isnt possible, it would make sense why it only affects the multiplayer part of the game.
It seems like it was censored too. At least there was a forum post about it:Is the Australian version censored? I honestly cant remember if Ive seen dismemberment in multiplayer.
Should be just for the multiplayer, but a German/Austrian website is doing a comparison between the European and the US version at the moment.I have the PAL (UK) version and all this dismemberment stuff is new to me. I had no idea that actually happened in other versions - is it just for multiplayer or single player too?
yeah because dismemberment of body parts is much less disturbing than sex fetishes?
worst post of the year.
When was the last time there was a main stream game with bare naked titties?
Every God of War game.
It seems like it was censored too. At least there was a forum post about it:
http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/The-Last-of-Us-Multiplayer/Gore-in-Multiplayer/m-p/40670969
+ Australia is part of the "PAL" territory.
Germany is known for bukkakes and they censore gore??
fucking backwards.
When was the last time there was a main stream game with bare naked titties?
So the whole of Europe has to deal with the shitty laws that Germany have up? Why don't Sony just not sell the game in Germany? Is Germany that big of a market?
We should contact Sony or ND about it.
I'm pretty sure the SP is censored as well. You can clearly see in the GiantBomb QuickLook that the nailbomb will straight up explode human enemies into a puff of blood and guts.
When I do that in my game (EU PS Store, Norway), they just ragdoll to the side. They sometimes get dismembered, though.
So the whole of Europe has to deal with the shitty laws that Germany have up? Why don't Sony just not sell the game in Germany? Is Germany that big of a market?
Is there any proof that this is Germany's fault? I mean I like blaming Germany for everything as much as the next guy but it seems that many people are blaming them without any evidence.
The witcher 2, let's see what happens with the third itineration on consoles because of Germany.
I'm pretty sure the SP is censored as well. You can clearly see in the GiantBomb QuickLook that the nailbomb will straight up explode human enemies into a puff of blood and guts.
When I do that in my game (EU PS Store, Norway), they just ragdoll to the side. They sometimes get dismembered, though.
Pretty sure it's one of the bigger, but don't quote me on that.
I mean, this doesn't really affect the multiplayer gameplay, but it still sucks to be sold a censored version
That's not true. The game is uncensored outside of Germany.
The USK blames the retail market because store members don't always know that they aren't allowed to sell 18 games to minors.This is the reason adult games tend to get censored as well
Fine, fine
I'll just continue shaking my fist at Germany instead. I never did get their complete obsession with removing all gore from anything.
It's still a passive censorship.The USK does not censor, they apply ratings, or don't.
The publisher/developer decide whether or not to censor their game.
The USK does not censor, they apply ratings, or don't.
The publisher/developer decide whether or not to censor their game.
MS, Sony and Nintendo have the policy to not publish X or non-rated videogames. So if some rating board denies to rate a game or rate it as X they are forcing to devs or publishers to apply censorship on their games.
Why do people need to defend the USK all the time. They refuse to rate a game 18 (for adults), they do something wrong. Developers are forced to censor their shit, often even more than necessary.Good post for the most part, but ...
When did the USK blame the retail market?
And how would lack of control in the stores, which as a legal offence, lead to more censorship.
The USK does not censor, they apply ratings, or don't.
The publisher/developer decide whether or not to censor their game.
With X, I meant AO (Adult Only) games, there're many of them in PC.Not sure what you mean with X-rated games.
I am German so maybe I can help a little here.
I don't expect anyone to do a little research into why or have any common sense about my country's past.
Other than trying to constantly appear as a non-violent country, Germany ironically just like the U.S. has/had a lot of trouble with school shootings, with them apparently being linked with Counterstrike matches, where one or two kids in the past raving on about how they are going to kill their classmates.
The witcher 2, let's see what happens with the third itineration on consoles because of Germany.
Restricting adults from consuming violent media started way earlier in Germany, just look at how movies basically got the same treatment.
Good post for the most part, but ...
When did the USK blame the retail market?
And how would lack of control in the stores, which as a legal offence, lead to more censorship.
The USK does not censor, they apply ratings, or don't.
The publisher/developer decide whether or not to censor their game.
Why do people need to defend the USK all the time.
Thank god, the gore in the game is already pretty hard imo I don't need dismemberment or anything other sick stuff in mp "just for luls"
Of course censoring an already 18+ game is dumb but well this time I'm happy with it
School shootings are not the reason, those laws and regulations apply to movies too and are almost as old as the new German state. The confiscation and indexing (is this the right term for "Indizierung"? I'm not sure ...) were there before. All in all you can say that the USK and FSK (the film board) got a more chilled way of rating violence in media nowadays. German youth protection is just a vague mess, too influenced by the Christians and it messes with the rights of adult persons living in Germany/Europe.I am German so maybe I can help a little here.
I don't expect anyone to do a little research into why or have any common sense about my country's past.
Other than trying to constantly appear as a non-violent country, Germany ironically just like the U.S. has/had a lot of trouble with school shootings, with them apparently being linked with Counterstrike matches, where one or two kids in the past raving on about how they are going to kill their classmates.
The German government got paranoid about the effect of video games on children, misreading the actual health issues of these people and instead focusing on the video games.
School shootings are not the reason and those laws and regulations apply to movies too. The confiscation and indexing (is this the right term for "Indizierung"? I'm not sure ...) were there before. All in all you can say that the USK and FSK (the film board) got a more chilled way of rating violence in media nowadays. German youth protection is just a vague mess, too influenced by the Christians and it messes with the rights of adult persons living in Germany/Europe.
P.S.
Actually I just read that Saint Row 4 agerating was denied in Germany as well.
http://www.gamona.de/games/saints-row-4,usk-lehnt-freigabe-ab:news,2290910.html
This. I'd like to play this game as it's by all accounts excellent, but I have a feeling it would just make me sick. Realism is already way past where I feel comfortable with dismemberment and blowing holes in people.
And actually, after the school shooting 2003 the discussion started about violent games let to new laws, that were actually an improvement from the gamer's and publisher's point of view, because now a rating protected games and movies from being indexed or banned, except for court orders.The confiscation and indexing (is this the right term for "Indizierung"? I'm not sure ...) were there before. All in all you can say that the USK and FSK (the film board) got a more chilled way of rating violence in media nowadays.
True. The religious influence in the ratings is huge.German youth protection is just a vague mess, too influenced by the Christians
Not really, because customers can do what they want. It is only a problems for retailers, and they usually don't bother, because there is not enough money in the business.and it messes with the rights of adult persons living in Germany/Europe.
Nope, the school shootings were just the reason for some changes in the rating system. After the changes the retailer wasn't able to sell 18-rated games to minors (no 16-rated games to 15 y.o. and so on ...) anymore and had to check if the customer was old enough to buy the game/movie. Before the Erfurt shooting those ratings were just a recommendation. Another change was that a game/movie can't get indexed anymore if the exact version of the media got a rating by the board (USK/FSK).I am talking about the school shootings specifically being related to the censorship in video games.
Okay, that's right. But they make it as hard as possible for you to get those games/movies and influence companies like Sony to release cut versions all over Europe. That's what I actually meant by "messing with the rights".Not really, because customers can do what they want. It is only a problems for retailers, and they usually don't bother, because there is not enough money in the business.
Germany is known for bukkakes and they censore gore??
fucking backwards.
Nope, the school shootings were just the reason for some changes in the rating system. After the changes the retailer wasn't able to sell 18-rated games to minors (no 16-rated games to 15 y.o. and so on ...) anymore and had to check if the customer was old enough to buy the game/movie. Before the Erfurt shooting those ratings were just a recommendation. Another change was that a game/movie can't get indexed anymore if the exact version of the media got a rating by the board (USK/FSK).
I'd say they have a more chilled way of looking at the violent games now. Gears of War 3 was released uncut, the singleplayer of The Last of Us seems to be uncut too. Half Life 2 was uncut. 10 years earlier you couldn't expect something like that. Almost every game was toned down violence-wise.Fair enough but hasn't there been more censoring since those incidents? I guess it's not that censorship laws have changed since then but I swear there have been more toned down games.
YepI see you are a Jena fan.