I still haven't heard any actually good arguments from you, that don't either also have something to do with Timeaisis, or that I have told my arguments for only to be countered with "I won't care because it's you who is saying so". I have to admit it's bit frustrating.
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Gafia 2: The Bride of Gafia |Mafia OT| One Wedding, Many Funerals
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I still haven't heard any actually good arguments from you, that don't either also have something to do with Timeaisis, or that I have told my arguments for only to be countered with "I won't care because it's you who is saying so". I have to admit it's bit frustrating.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
So, like what you're doing?
I don't remember talking about Timeaisis... but in any case, sometimes there is no obvious proof of mafia. Sometimes I must follow my nose, wherever it goes...
...But that time is not now, because nothing's worse than being the schmuck who dies because he wouldn't move his vote to a lynch that's actually going somewhere.
VOTE: Kalor
Why did Kalor claim EVEN night commuter, though? He had no real incentive to do that.
I mean, he had incentive to claim, he was leading in votes. But claiming even night commuter didn't really make any sense, because Scrafty had already claimed cop, and was obviously going to be night killed that night. By all means, if Kalor had been town, he would have claimed odd night commuter, so scum would have been more fearful to target him in N3. Instead he claimed Even night commuter... but why?
It's possible, that Scum was going to let Scrafty live for D3, since she was most likely going to check weemadarthur (since godfather and all). So town would have been confused in D3 why both Scrafty and Kalor were both alive. The solution? Claim even night commuter, so Kalor wouldn't need to explain why he was alive today.
Obviously that plan would have failed with Weemad dying, but then scum just killed Scrafty, and Kalor didn't need to explain anything.
By request, new vote count:
kalor (7)
burbeting 1288 (1486)
xamtheking 1469 (1499)
burbeting 1513
xamtheking 1535 (1768)
roytheone 1665
nin1000 1691 (1895)
timeaisis 1756
fireblend 1994
launchpadmcq 2071
absolutbro 2179
camjo-z 2204
camjo-z (4)
salvapot 2092
czartim 2173
terrabyte20xx 2182
nin1000 2190
absolutbro (2)
czartim 1373 (2117)
ourobolus 1481 (1546)
ourobolus 1550 (1597)
ourobolus 1606
launchpadmcq 1677 (1920)
xamtheking 1768
launchpadmcq 1930 (2071)
robotninjahornets/Seath (1)
salvapot 1442 (1506)
salvapot 1654 (1748)
kalor 1673
burbeting (1)
nin1000 1913 (2190)
camjo-z 2094
xamtheking (0)
kalor 1429 (1673)
timeaisis 1497 (1615)
xamtheking 1499 (1535)
salvapot 1506 (1635)
ourobolus 1546 (1550)
absolutbro 1554 (1625)
launchpadmcq 1585 (1636)
ourobolus 1597 (1606)
ourobolus (0)
burbeting 1486 (1513)
fireblend 1670 (1994)
camjo-z 1695 (2094)
salvapot 1748 (2035)
czartim (0)
absolutbro 1625 (2179)
launchpadmcq 1920 (1930)
The following players do not have an active vote:
Bronx-man
BananaSpacePrincess
Ty4on
Seath
kalor (7)
burbeting 1513
roytheone 1665
timeaisis 1756
fireblend 1994
launchpadmcq 2071
absolutbro 2179
camjo-z 2204
camjo-z (4)
salvapot 2092
czartim 2173
terrabyte20xx 2182
nin1000 2190
absolutbro (2)
ourobolus 1606
xamtheking 1768
robotninjahornets/Seath (1)
kalor 1673
burbeting (1)
camjo-z 2094
xamtheking (0)
ourobolus (0)
czartim (0)
The following players do not have an active vote:
Bronx-man
BananaSpacePrincess
Ty4on
Seath
I mean the thing that there was acitivity N1 near nin. It could either mean that me or Time moved, or that we were targeted. Yet you kept insisting it means I moved that night.
If he is speaking the truth, his power being decent is debatable. I doubt scum or the arsonist would ever night target him after his claim, so his power is basically useless at this point. The only way for his power to become useful again if somehow he becomes confirmed town, which I don't see happening.
Didn't Terra say that he only felt one source of movement next to him N1 (aka kingkitty dying)?...
...UNLESS DYING DOESN'T ACTUALLY COUNT AS MOVEMENT
TERRA + TIME FOR MAF
No, Terra said he was mistaken, and that he would only know if there was acitivity or not. He doesn't know if there was activity in one or two seats.
This was some time before Kalor claimed, but Wee's continued attack on Scrafty makes me wonder if scum were initially scared of Scrafty and were hoping to get her lynched despite the claim. Maybe her attacking was to keep Scrafty suspicious, but that would have been really risky.
This does however assume scum had good communication. I think yesterday might be a hint that it isn't with Wee sticking out way too much and no one saving her.
Sure. Except no. I voted at a time where it seemed like most players had decided to hunt for the arsonist. If I was scum, I would have pushed for the arsonist angle then. I've been trying to get us back on the scum-hunting train for a while.
I'll assume scum wasn't expecting that Weemad would be lynched. The attack on Scrafty could be scum trying to persuade Scrafty to check weemad the next night.
No. He confirmed that he had read too much into the flavor after Nin claimed the same power effectively making their power identical.
oh
oh
...isn't it kind of weird that we have two of the exact same town power then
Xamtheking
Member
le gasp
I am here until day end
I am here until day end
They were really playing with fire though.
I've never been scum or spectated their chat live so I have no idea how it is in real time, but whenever I reread a scum chat I always see scum freaking out over a couple of votes. Maybe if Kalor were their main concern...
Xamtheking
Member
Yes, for sure
It would also be nice if we knew who all the scum were so we could win instantly
Also they were playing with fire sure, but can you think of the possible payback? They would get weemad to confirmed town level, and all of the people who would have voted for them D2 would look much more suspicion.
Confirmed town until she stays alive for way too long.
Maybe they'd skip killing one night to simulate a doctor...
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That Salva vote is intriguing, but feels so wrong...
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Ha. Hahaha. Ha.
It sucks that you may he telling the truth, but you've lost a lot of credibility with all this.
Why didn't you claim odd night commuter in the hopes of possibly being targeted instead of the person who claimed cop?
To be perfectly honest, it's exactly what I would have done if I was a commuter. I can't be the only one that didn't think that was what he was doing.
Without Wee dying I don't think Scrafty would have been the obvious NK target.
The idea never crossed my mind. I also doubt the mafia would have gone for me when they try killing a cop.
Xamtheking
Member
Excuse me, I might have to leave the thread now, as I'm allergic to bullshit
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Well, I'm doubling down on Kalor anyway. If you're town, sorry m8.
Things look pretty fucked for tonight. I hope the doc protects Bronx and the RB blocks AB, but it doesn't seem like it'll happen so easily.
Things look pretty fucked for tonight. I hope the doc protects Bronx and the RB blocks AB, but it doesn't seem like it'll happen so easily.
That's... actually kinda townie. I think the same with me had I been in your situation.
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FUCK IT
Vote: SalvaPot
I will switch if need be, Kalor or Camjo.
Xamtheking
Member
VOTE: Kalor
I DO NOT FORGET TO KILL
I DO NOT FORGET TO KILL
Love you kark
You're making fun of the ties?
Xamtheking
Member
Sssh
You missed the joke
The weird thing about a Kalor lynch is that it's come up against almost no opposition. Which I find super weird.
Maybe. I don't disagree that the:
*Wee votes Kalor -> Kalor claims*
Is a little suspect.
I dunno. Just think it'd be nice to know his alignment and a lot of those voting for him yesterday I townread.
On the other hand, there has been a push for Camjo during the last hour, that kinda appeared out of nowhere.
THE SCUM, THEY-A REVEAL THEMSELVES
Xamtheking
Member
Burb is on my list, for sure
But I think Kalor is more dangerous RN
Also, Camjo just seems like he's barking up the wrong tree here. I don't think either him or Burb are scum. We really can only say so much about TB's tracking, since the action could be either coming from or going to, it could be almost anything. Those four (including me) will be good to consider later, but I see no reason to pursue one of them now, unless one is acting very suspect.
Look at D2 first in detail. And Seath.