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Alucard

Banned
After the prequel trilogy I never thought i'd be able to get turned into a kid again watching something related to Star Wars.

Both trailers for The Force Awakens have proven me wrong.

Just watched them after your post. Yeah, I'll be there Day 1 if I can. I enjoyed Abrams' Star Trek flicks, and was at one point a big original trilogy mark.
 

Fox318

Member
After the prequel trilogy I never thought i'd be able to get turned into a kid again watching something related to Star Wars.

Both trailers for The Force Awakens have proven me wrong.

I still am going to wait for reviews.

Don't forget JJ didn't really capture the spirit of Star Trek
 

Sephzilla

Member
I still am going to wait for reviews.

Don't forget JJ didn't really capture the spirit of Star Trek

Eh, I thought the Reboot movie did a decent job of it. The thing most Trekkies said about Trek 09 was that it felt more like a Star Wars movie than a Star Trek movie. So.... yeah. Star Wars should be his bread and butter.
 
As wrestling fans, we are conditioned to keep giving companies and franchises chance after chance. We live on crumbs of hope. I understand the reaction to the Star Wars trailer, but I couldn't join it.
 

Sephzilla

Member
The fact that George Lucas has basically no involvement with this movie is extra incentive to get excited. It's basically fact that the further away Lucas is from Star Wars, the better it gets.
 

jmdajr

Member
The fact that George Lucas has basically no involvement with this movie is extra incentive to get excited. It's basically fact that the further away Lucas is from Star Wars, the better it gets.

No different than how fans feel about Vince. Wrestling still has...hope.
 

Shiv47

Member
Just looked at the "media guests" list for the local comic/pop culture con, and Scott Steiner is one of them. He seems like the last guy who would want to appear at such events. I just picture him mocking all the fatasses wanting pics and autographs from him.
 

jmdajr

Member
Just looked at the "media guests" list for the local comic/pop culture con, and Scott Steiner is one of them. He seems like the last guy who would want to appear at such events. I just picture him mocking all the fatasses wanting pics and autographs from him.

Would you ask Scott for an autograph?

probbaly be nicer than Punk
 
Where's that gif of Scott Steiner and Kevin Nash (?) posing for a picture with a kid and Steiner blocking the kid's face with his flexed bicep?
 

Fox318

Member
No different than how fans feel about Vince. Wrestling still has...hope.

Vince actually created a better product than Lucas.

Editors saved the first star wars movie and the rest of his movies he didn't direct.

American Graffiti and THX might be the only movies he directed that somebody didn't save them or take it off his hands.
 

Alucard

Banned
I still am going to wait for reviews.

Don't forget JJ didn't really capture the spirit of Star Trek

Eh, it was still a fun action movie. Certainly not a sci-fi movie, though. Star Wars is a space fantasy, and for that reason I'm confident Abrams will at least make it an enjoyable romp regardless of whether or not the movie "feels" like Star Wars. Expecting something at least twice as enjoyable as John Carter. (seriously)

As wrestling fans, we are conditioned to keep giving companies and franchises chance after chance. We live on crumbs of hope. I understand the reaction to the Star Wars trailer, but I couldn't join it.

I'm not super duper hyped, but I'm definitely interested. I've been conditioned to watch every movie in this franchise, so this is no different. Only this time, I'm actually expecting a movie that will hopefully/likely be considered the 3rd or 4th best movie in the series. Maybe even the second best. Or maybe...THE best.

We'll see. I'm locked in.
 

NoRéN

Member
Now I'm regretting not going to the Star Wars thing.

I probably should have offered to get tickets for anyone interested now that i think about it.
 

Sephzilla

Member
From the moment Abrams was announced as the director for Force Awakens he's basically been on a mission to tug at the heartstrings of old fans and get them on board. Constantly talking about how he wants to use as many practical effects as feasibly possible. Not really mentioning the prequels at all. Both of the teasers end with Millenium Falcon stingers. The new teaser tugs at you with that A New Hope John Williams music. At the absolute least, he's accomplishing the mission of making fans who were soured by the prequels come back on board.

Disney is going to make so much fucking money this year with Avengers 2 and Star Wars coming out.
 

Sephzilla

Member
Shoot time, the prequels are not that bad in fact revenge of the site is way better than return of Jedi.

Revenge of the Sith is easily the best prequel movie but I will not stand here and let someone say it's better than Jedi, especially when Jedi has the best face turn in cinema history.

Shoot time for me would be saying that Episode 4 is the worst of the OT.

¡HarlequinPanic!;160399495 said:
anyone wanna dish on how they feel about Man Of Steel yet?

Mediocre but I might give Batman vs Superman a chance since its a different writer.
 
Vince actually created a better product than Lucas.

Editors saved the first star wars movie and the rest of his movies he didn't direct.

American Graffiti and THX might be the only movies he directed that somebody didn't save them or take it off his hands.

Well THX is a million times better than Star Wars shit.
 

Heroman

Banned
Revenge of the Sith is easily the best prequel movie but I will not stand here and let someone say it's better than Jedi, especially when Jedi has the best face turn in cinema history.

Shoot time for me would be saying that Episode 4 is the worst of the OT.



Mediocre but I might give Batman vs Superman a chance since its a different writer.
Jedi sucks, the whole movie is a bunch of garbage the only good thing is Lando and the fight. I mean it has fucking ewoks.
 

Alucard

Banned
Shoot time, the prequels are not that bad in fact revenge of the site is way better than return of Jedi.

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I want some god damn sci-fi that isn't just a dumb action film, or where the setting isn't just there to prop-up some cliched romance or teen power fantasy. Proper, speculative, hard science fiction storytelling. Suffice to say, I'm not all that bothered about Star Wars.
 

Sephzilla

Member
Jedi sucks, the whole movie is a bunch of garbage the only good thing is Lando and the fight. I mean it has fucking ewoks.

How can someone be this wrong? Jedi is fantastic. Vader teasing that there's still good in him. Luke teasing that he might fall to the dark side. The Emperor being TMF. The best space battle in the entire franchise. Williams is on his A game with the music. Everything about the final fight between Luke and Vader is so amazingly well done. The build up to Luke finally snapping and unloading everything on Vader, plus the score for that scene, does a great job of turning what should be a proud "the hero defeats the villain" moment into a sad "the son is about to murder his father" moment. Fuck, Jedi is great. The only real issue with the movie is that Han Solo isn't given that much to do, but his quips in the first act on Tattooine are pretty good.

I'm also 100% okay with Ewoks. Tons of Star Wars fans complain that it should have been Wookies like in one of the earlier versions of the story, but that would have been dumb.

I want some god damn sci-fi that isn't just a dumb action film, or where the setting isn't just there to prop-up some cliched romance or teen power fantasy. Proper, speculative, hard science fiction storytelling. Suffice to say, I'm not all that bothered about Star Wars.

Well Star Wars never really was sci-fi to begin with. It's a fantasy story in a space setting.
 
I want some god damn sci-fi that isn't just a dumb action film, or where the setting isn't just there to prop-up some cliched romance or teen power fantasy. Proper, speculative, hard science fiction storytelling. Suffice to say, I'm not all that bothered about Star Wars.

Not all hard sci-fi, but some decent recent and promising upcoming sci-fi films:

Alex Garland Ex Machina looks like it falls victim to the Garland Third Act, where he introduces slasher bullshit into a sci-fi film, but that might be up your alley.

Ridley Scott's The Martian, based on the Andy Weir novel, comes out this November in the States.

I thought Elysium was bullshit, but maybe you liked it. If so, Chappie might be for you.

Predestination, based on Heinlein's "-All You Zombies-," got pretty good reviews.

William Eubank's The Signal got mixed reviews.

I enjoyed Dawn of the Planet of the Apes. Coherence is on my list of films to watch.

EDIT: I'm very displeased that I can't find this Scott Steiner gif. I could have sworn that someone posted it in this very thread.
 

Alucard

Banned
I want some god damn sci-fi that isn't just a dumb action film, or where the setting isn't just there to prop-up some cliched romance or teen power fantasy. Proper, speculative, hard science fiction storytelling. Suffice to say, I'm not all that bothered about Star Wars.

Eh, there's enough variety out there. Hard to hate on Star Wars for what it's not because it never pretended to be hard sci-fi.

And anyone still calling Star Wars sci-fi doesn't know the definition of the word. Not talking to you Boots, but just anyone who thinks SW is sci-fi.

It's still somewhat unreal to me that this is actually happening.

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Eh, there's enough variety out there. Hard to hate on Star Wars for what it's not because it never pretended to be hard sci-fi.

It may not have ever been hard sci-fi, but it's still going to be a film people point to whenever I complain about the lack of sci-fi worth a damn. It's the same attitude the producers have - "it's set is space, what more do you need?". Like the Star Trek remakes - Abrahms wanted to make Star Trek for the people who never liked Star Trek in the first place, then got all pissy when those same people pointed out that it lacked substance, was poorly written and full of idiotic loopholes. There's no reason that a space faring sci-fi can't be made that, not only has a well thought-out, well written, speculative science fiction concept as its main focus, but one that also appeals to people in terms of visuals and excitement and action and character. Except for those with their hands on the purse strings, of course, those same executives who continually underestimate their audience and perceive them as too stupid to be drawn in by a concept that asks them to think for themselves rather than just sit and be entertained by the flash and noise of modern cinema. I mean, fuck it, I'll just read a book. But just once, just once, it'd be nice to go to the cinema and see a science fiction that isn't afraid to be daring in more than just the visual department.
 

Alucard

Banned
It may not have ever been hard sci-fi, but it's still going to be a film people point to whenever I complain about the lack of sci-fi worth a damn. It's the same attitude the producers have - "it's set is space, what more do you need?". Like the Star Trek remakes - Abrahms wanted to make Star Trek for the people who never liked Star Trek in the first place, then got all pissy when people pointed out that it lacked substance, was poorly written and full of idiotic loopholes. There's no reason that a space faring sci-fi can't be made that, not only has a well thought-out, well written, speculative science fiction concept as its main focus, but one that also appeals to people in terms of visuals and excitement and action and character. Except for those with their hands on the purse strings, of course, those same executives who continually underestimate their audience and perceive them as too stupid to be drawn in by a concept that asks them to think for themselves rather than just sit and be entertained by the flash and noise of modern cinema. I mean, fuck it, I'll just read a book. But just once, just once, it'd be nice to go to the cinema and see a science fiction that isn't afraid to be daring in more than just the visual department.

Another Earth
Moon
Gattaca
The Matrix
Blade Runner

Those movies are out there too, man. :) There's room for both. Sci-fi tugs at the mind while fantasy tugs at the heart IMO.
 

Sephzilla

Member
Ha. Where is this from?

Btw, are the new Star Wars digital versions the originals of the films or just copies of the latest super special editions that try to link the prequels to the original movies even more?

It's from outtakes of Ep 4

The digital Star Wars versions are rips of the bluray. So it's the special edition plus the Vader "NOOO" scream Lucas added to the end of Jedi. I'll be stunned as fuck if we don't get bluray releases of the theatrical cuts within the next year though.
 
It's from outtakes of Ep 4

The digital Star Wars versions are rips of the bluray. So it's the special edition plus the Vader "NOOO" scream Lucas added to the end of Jedi. I'll be stunned as fuck if we don't get bluray releases of the theatrical cuts within the next year though.

Never going to happen because Fox owns the distribution to the original trilogy or some bullshit like that.
 
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