• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

Wkd BO 04•14-16•17 - Can't fight fate, Baby: F8 leaves WW B.O. opening record in dust

Status
Not open for further replies.
B

Boombloxer

Member
Bobby Roberts said:
But yeah, the fact this superhero supercar superspy film starring maybe four white people of note (none of whom are actual leads) is setting all-time records internationally is definitely a sign that the studios cannot, should not, and really better not try to make the bullshit argument that securing financing becomes harder when you don't have your "bankable" white lead at the front of your film.

2017 should be the fucking killshot for that piece of bullshit conventional wisdom. Ghost in the Shell is a massive flop that adheres strictly to that wisdom. Fate of the Furious gives it the finger on its way to half-a-bil in one week.
Click to expand...

If only. You can say Exodus, Gods of Egypt, GitS, Great Wall, 47 Ronin...

Magnificent Seven is also a positive example.

I don't have any faith this is going to change until some more forward thinking folks are making films.
 
M

Messofanego

Banned
Diversity stays winning.

J9g5IOa.gif
 
S

S-Wind

Member
donkey show said:
I mean they haven't raced on the Great Wall of China yet.

cap004_ce7ac639c1ec97f035251945bf1e3f35.jpg


Time for Cannonball Run Jackie to join the family?
Click to expand...

Shiiiiiit... if Jackie Motherfucking Chan shows up in the post credits scene of the FF9 the whole theatre is going to erupt!!!

MAKE IT HAPPEN, Hollywood!!! Allow your love of $$$ to over ride your anti Asian [male] racism!!!
 
K

kswiston

Member
Snaku said:
Japan won't make any difference, but China is a different story. That country single handedly saved Pacific Rim 2, and is keeping the Transformers franchise going. If you think they're not going to flock to see masked superheroes battle a giant monster in five robots that combine into a bigger super robot you're out of your mind.
Click to expand...

Films actually don't make all that much for their studios in China. Some studios are playing the long game, hoping that investment now will pay out later as the market expands. But the $28M that Legendary took out of China for Pacific Rim didn't turn the $190M picture from a failure to a success. It makes for a nicer Worldwide figure, and now that a Chinese company owns Legendary, there is an incentive to push in that direction.

Plus Power Rangers was pre-sold, just like all the other foreign territories were. Where is Lionsgate getting the funding for the sequel? This film bombed in most markets, so you aren't going to get a ton of foreign distributors chomping at the bit for distribution rights of a film that lost them money.
 
H

HeartlessNobody213

Member
Damn at F8 making all that money and breaking the record.

Good to see Logan cross $600 million and nice that Get Out is still hanging in there.

Sucks for GITS though. I didn't think it would make a lot of money but I didn't expect it to flop like it did. I remember one poster on here saying it would make like $500 million and even had a chance at $700 million. Well that shit ain't happening.
 
G

GAMEPROFF

Banned
Mrbob said:
So is a Power Rangers sequel still a go? Domestic numbers are mild and overseas not too inspiring.
Click to expand...

Saban said something of 7 Sequels, but since Power Rangers arent the biggest shit now and doubtfully selling a lot of toys, I doubt that we even get one Sequel.
 
C

Culex

Banned
At this point FatF is like Pokémon.

"It's a fad!"

"Can't keep this going"

....a decade later, still crushing it.
 
S

Saucycarpdog

Member
kswiston said:
Japan and China aren't going to change anything at this point.
Click to expand...
And what makes you say that? If it does vert well in China, they will most certainly try a sequel. China is the reason there's any talk of doing another Warcraft movie.

Not saying it will do Warcraft numbers but China is a wild card in this situation.
 
S

Slayven

Member
Saucycarpdog said:
And what makes you say that? If it does vert well in China, they will most certainly try a sequel. China is the reason there's any talk of doing another Warcraft movie.

Not saying it will do Warcraft numbers but China is a wild card in this situation.
Click to expand...

China moved on to FF
 
T

Trokil

Banned
Wow, Ghost in the Shell is crazy successful on the international market, it just has made as much money world wide in about 20 days as John Wick 2 did in 66 days.

In a lot of markets it is still ahead of Ant-Man I wonder how much money it will make in total. Casting Scarlett seemed really worked out, else it would have ended like Power Rangers.
 
C

Chumley

Banned
Trokil said:
Wow, Ghost in the Shell is crazy successful on the international market, it just has made as much money world wide in about 20 days as John Wick 2 did in 66 days.

In a lot of markets it is still ahead of Ant-Man I wonder how much money it will make in total. Casting Scarlett seemed really worked out, else it would have ended like Power Rangers.
Click to expand...

TDL5LEQ.gif
 
G

GAMEPROFF

Banned
S

Schlorgan

Member
Trokil said:
Wow, Ghost in the Shell is crazy successful on the international market, it just has made as much money world wide in about 20 days as John Wick 2 did in 66 days.

In a lot of markets it is still ahead of Ant-Man I wonder how much money it will make in total. Casting Scarlett seemed really worked out, else it would have ended like Power Rangers.
Click to expand...
Is this post from the other timeline?
 
T

Trokil

Banned
Schlorgan said:
Is this post from the other timeline?
Click to expand...

You know, reality can be pretty harsh sometimes

Power Rangers
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=powerrangers16.htm

Ghost in the Shell
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=ghostintheshell2017.htm

And even if Power Rangers is making more money in the US, on the international market even without China, it makes 3-4 times as much. And while Power Rangers is already out of most theaters, Ghost is still running.

Btw. Ghostbusters 2016 made only 100 million on the international market in 17 weeks.
 
B

Busty

Banned
They just..., they just dragged that Power Rangers film into that KFC parking lot and...., they just shot it, man.

Like it was nothing.

*hand shakes so violently the ice cubes in the glass clink around spilling whisky*

Ain't no one deserve to go out like that.

Mrbob said:
So is a Power Rangers sequel still a go? Domestic numbers are mild and overseas not too inspiring.
Click to expand...

I like how you try and spin the truly pitiful international numbers as 'not too inspiring'.
 
F

Future Foundation

Member
Trokil said:
Wow, Ghost in the Shell is crazy successful on the international market, it just has made as much money world wide in about 20 days as John Wick 2 did in 66 days.

In a lot of markets it is still ahead of Ant-Man I wonder how much money it will make in total. Casting Scarlett seemed really worked out, else it would have ended like Power Rangers.
Click to expand...

giphy.gif
.
 
C

Cipherr

Member
Schlorgan said:
Is this post from the other timeline?
Click to expand...

Kinda yeah. Some people are in cast iron denial about the film flopping like a fish. This is despite it now being known that the film is expected to lose upwards of $60 million dollars.

Whats crazy is the loss of $60 million is based on the idea of the film doing $200m WW:

http://deadline.com/2017/04/ghost-i...hansson-box-office-flop-whitewash-1202061479/

After vanishing in its opening weekend at the domestic box office to $18.6 million, film finance sources tell Deadline that Paramount/DreamWorks-Reliance’s Ghost In The Shell stands to lose at least $60M, and that’s based off a global B.O. projection of $200M ($50M domestic, $150M international) and combined P&A/production costs of $250M. Some sources even assert that the production cost for Ghost is far north of $110M and more in the $180M range — if that’s the case, Ghost is bleeding in excess of $100M.
Click to expand...

The films currently at 152 million worldwide and has already fallen off a cliff and is losing theatres rapidly. It may not even get to the 200m estimate which would make the loss that much larger. So the goalposts for 'successful' have been shifted to beating completely unrelated movies in box office. A metric that doesn't take into account the vast amount of money that will be lost on the film regardless of whether it outgrossed Power Rangers or whatever.
Qmb2plb.png
 
R

Ridley327

Member
"Gee, this film is an enormous flop, but it's not as big as another enormous flop!"

If that's the last line of defense, then the enemy has not only infiltrated your based behind your back, but they already took your sister on a date and have no intention of calling her back.
 
T

Trokil

Banned
Cipherr said:
The films currently at 152 million worldwide and has already fallen off a cliff and is losing theatres rapidly. It may not even get to the 200m estimate which would make the loss that much larger. So the goalposts for 'successful' have been shifted to beating completely unrelated movies in box office. A metric that doesn't take into account the vast amount of money that will be lost on the film regardless of whether it outgrossed Power Rangers or whatever.
Click to expand...

152 millions in 2,4 weeks.

Where outside of the US is it falling of a cliff or getting of theaters? Do you have any numbers to support that? I only see the international numbers and they are as strong as ever, I can check the theater online reservation systems and it is still sold very well. In Japan it just had a better start then Guardians or Ant-Man.

It is at 152 worldwide before this weekend and is running less than 3 weeks, but unlike pretty much any other movie it should stop right now and by some magic unlike any other movie it will not make money anymore for the next 4-9 weeks. It still has not opened everywhere btw and somehow it should stop making money in about 10 days, just because.
 
M

MHWilliams

Member
Trokil said:
Wow, Ghost in the Shell is crazy successful on the international market, it just has made as much money world wide in about 20 days as John Wick 2 did in 66 days.

In a lot of markets it is still ahead of Ant-Man I wonder how much money it will make in total. Casting Scarlett seemed really worked out, else it would have ended like Power Rangers.
Click to expand...

Laughing-Histerically.gif


Ride that snowpiercer to the end, Trokil. Maybe there will be daylight at the end.

I'm not even sure where John Wick 2 came from. To put that to bed: John Wick 2 made $161 million worldwide, it's budget was only $40 million. That is profit, which is success. If GITS gets lucky, it's make more than Get Out too! (Get Out's budget is $4 million. Tons of profit.)

Ghost in the Shell Worldwide Numbers Last Week: $48 million
Ghost in the Shell Worldwide Numbers This Week: $10 million

It's done. That's all she wrote, unless it has crazy Zootopia legs.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

Wkd B.O. 06•15-17•18 - "Super hero fatigue" where? Incredibles 2 does $180m opening, smashing records.
10
1K
Rentahamster replied
  • Locked
Wkd BO 04•21-23•17 - F8 leads the box office, and drags those who resist
3 4 5 6 7
327
35K
GAMEPROFF replied
  • Locked
Wkd B.O. 05•16-18•14 - Efron's hard abs unable to stop Godzilla's blue meth breath
2 3 4 5 6
265
27K
BLACKLAC replied
  • Locked
15 Films to See in November (what are you watching?)
2 3
112
11K
User 479360 replied
  • Locked
NeoGAF 2012 Anime of the Year Results Thread
4 5 6 7 8
358
57K
Dresden replied
Top Bottom