Goro Majima
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Dug into it and I'm guessing that Sean McDermott was basically doing the drafting by the time it came around.
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Dug into it and I'm guessing that Sean McDermott was basically doing the drafting by the time it came around.
Grover Cleveland
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The fact that the Bills took Dion Dawkins (heavily rumored to be a Panthers 2nd round target at offensive tackle) and traded up with the Falcons to jump the Panthers and be able to do it...kind of confirms this.
Son of a bitch took our board!
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He held on to the ball.
FloydtheFathead
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Corey Clement was a name I kept hearing about and I don't follow college football. So good I guess?
Only time will tell but seems like they went with character guys, stuck to their board over need, and are banking on Douglas working his magic.
But I am a little concerned that in a draft heavy on CBs, they didn't select a player who can contribute day 1 untill pick 99. Hope it works out but taking Sidney Jones at 43 is a risk. I wonder if he would have fallen into the third round or the Eagles knew for sure he was about to go. He has to work out cause the success of this draft depends on where he is 2-3
They could have moved up for another CB (King), stayed and taken Quincy Wilson, or moved up between. 43 and 99 moved up for more of a chance at the better rated CBs.
Which is also why I definitely think they target a veteran FA CB between now and week 1. I was looking over the list recently and there are some good starters on the market.
Why this makes no sense to do after a draft????!!!!
FloydtheFathead
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Out of the recent Wisconsin RBs (Ball, Brown, White, and Melvin Gordon).. probably the worst of them. That's not to say he's trash. He was decent for the Badgers (the question is whether that is The Badgers Oline or him leads me to think it was their oline).
At worst, he's a backup RB. Not too bad
Yeah but he would be a situational big back to complement Smallwood, Sproles, and Pumphrey. With Pederson we aren't going to be running with a single back 20-25 carries per game.
And this doesn't factor in Ryan Mathews who for now is on the team.
I'm not Brock Osweiler. Should I try out for Texans QB?
We have zero proof you are not Osweiler. If anything you look just like him when he scrambles:
At least Watson only cost them 2 first rounders.
BlackGhost
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Bills have fired their GM Doug Whaley.
Bills have fired their GM Doug Whaley.
Alligatorjandro
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The people running the bills are clowns
Well they had 3 picks to choose between 1 and 99, and I wouldn't trade Barnett for any of the CBs in the class that were available. I really don't think Jones would've been there in the 3rd, he's healing pretty fast. And I think getting him over a lesser CB that can start Day 1 is more important. He'll lose his rookie year, but the Eagles aren't one piece away from competing so I'm fine stashing him for a year for bigger payoff later. Plus this team has a lot of success lately rehabbing athletes from Achilles injuries so I'm sure they did their research. Then in the 3rd, remember that we basically got Timmy Jernigan and Rasul Douglas. Maybe they could've traded up but I think he'll be a good CB and we would've had to give up our later picks who are bringing competition to the WR depth and contributing on STs. Douglas may have been a slight reach, but that report came out a week ago that there was a patricular CB they were targeting in the 3rd. I think it was Douglas cuz if not they would've traded up. If he's the guy Schwartz wants that's good with me
Edit: Only bummer was continuing to just miss out on RBs, starting with Cook
yankeehater
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So I guess the bills kept their gm just to help with the draft. So odd, if you think he is a bad gm why do you want him involved with your draft?
Jibbajabbawockky
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Makes more sense to do it after the draft than before, I guess.
Everything I've read made it sort of seem like Whaley had to know he was on the way out but was basically being kept around until the Draft was over. I almost wonder if Pegula wanted to fire Whaley back when they fired Rex but had to keep him around to hire a new coach and get the Draft in order.
I never hated Whaley like some Bills fans do- I think he's done a decent job finding some solid players in the draft like Darby but then he does stuff like the Watkins trade which just hasn't panned out as much you like. On the flip side, he's able to pull off the Lesean McCoy trade which was a steal. And Whaley's been good at getting veteran free agents like Zach Brown, Lorenzo Alexander, Mike Gilislee and Richie Incognito to come in and have surprisingly productive years.
I just hope Pegula knows what he's doing and if McDermott has somebody identified as his GM, that they can get him. If McDermott was really calling all the shots in the draft then good job, I guess since the Bills seemed to have done ok, if for nothing else than getting KC's 1st rounder next year.
Between the Bills and the Sabres and how Pegula seems to be firing everyone, I just hope he has some inkling of what he's doing. But I'm increasingly thinking he is in way over his head.
They gave up the normal amount to move up that many spots and got rid of Osweilers contract at the same time. I didnt think any of these QB's were worth that much pre-draft and I stand by that.
It is funny and ironic you can read articles about this draft and KC gets praised as a "bold move" to trade up for Mahomes and the Texans are getting ripped in the same article for giving up too much
KC gave up their 2017 1st, 2018 1st and their 2017 3rd for pick 10
Hou gave up their 2017 1st, 2018 1st and their 2018 2nd for pick 12 AND dumping Osweilers contract
He can't keep getting away with this BG!!!
His only good years was when we had Cribbs to carry his bum ass!!!
yankeehater
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Every single site or person I've seen talk about the draft has talked about what a mistake that was for KC they were twelve and four last year and one piece possibly away from a Superbowl and instead they trade a ton for a high risk quarterback. Makes no sense at all.
Yep I totally agree
Giants really loved Mahomes but werent going to trade up.for him.
yankeehater
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Giants are smart.
Alex Smith isn't going to win you a Super Bowl. I think Reid realizes that.
BlackGhost
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I like when Hue yells "Tabes!" Excited to see our boy peppers.
*puts hand on Mechs shoulders
"You don't have to do this"
yankeehater
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How long until Mahomes can? By then the rest of the team will need to be rebuilt.
Then they will rebuild with a QB who potentially can take them all the way. The QB is the most important piece. We took that risk with Wentz because the FO didn't believe Bradford could take us there. KC is doing the same.
This is why I said I'd be happy if Dak became the next Alex Smith. He isn't good enough to win a team a Super Bowl. He's just good enough to keep KC from drafting a difference maker in round 1.
BlackGhost
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BlackGhost
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I don't think letting scouts go after draft is a uncommon occurrence. I think they might operate on a yearly contract? Firing GM after draft a different story
Grossi is really the worst.
BlackGhost
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My favorite past occurrence like this and when I realized "wait a minute, I'm not sure this guy knows what he's talking about?"...was the night before the Browns took Gordon.
Fan asks any chance Browns take Gordon? Grossi adamantly says no and 0%. Next day Browns spend a 2nd round on him in the supp draft. 🤔 I have more stories like this.
What one piece besides a real QB could win them a SB lol?
Agreed.
The move in theory I don't mind, it's the player they went for that I disagree with. On the flip side how many bad teams are going to trade away a chance at a consensus franchise QB talent (besides the Browns). If Darnold and the kid out of Wyoming are highly covected prospects QB needy teams that suck are not giving away the pick even for a kings ransom.
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He was asked about his college HC comment "Passing on Deshaun is like passing on Jordan"
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I'll block him back!!!
Joei
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My favorite past occurrence like this and when I realized "wait a minute, I'm not sure this guy knows what he's talking about?"...was the night before the Browns took Gordon.
Fan asks any chance Browns take Gordon? Grossi adamantly says no and 0%. Next day Browns spend a 2nd round on him in the supp draft. 🤔 I have more stories like this.
Grossi is hilarious. Probably my least favorite Browns "reporter" in that he rarely seems to know what he's talking about.
And I'm liking what the Browns did this year. Really looking forward to watching these players develop.
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