Inspired by this post, I made myself a new Avatar from the 25/50 HoM reward.
Wife liked it too, might be printing a larger version to hang on the wall. Vector <3
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Guild Wars 2 public Beta is here for pre-purchases! [Stress Test June 27th]
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngau...ild-wars-2-is-the-most-successful-mmo-period/
"ArenaNet Founder Mike O'Brien Will Be Satisfied When Guild Wars 2 Is The Most Successful MMO, Period"
"“We’re in it to win it this time,” said O’Brien. “We were number two to World of Warcraft with Guild Wars, now we want to beat them. We’ll be satisfied when the Guild Wars 2 is the most successful MMO."
"As for the World of Warcraft-killer slogan that has been bandied about in the press, O’Brien said “nothing is going to kill WoW other than WoW. Games just don’t die. But do gamers think we’ve seen the most popular online game we’ve ever seen and we’ll never see something more popular than that? I don’t think so. One MMO has been on the top of the heap for seven years now, but there’s been a progression in the industry for other games being able to attract more and more players. And we’re set to climb to the top.”
I like that ANet gets it that nothing will kill WoW but Blizzard, which they're doing a fine job of doing it themselves.
"ArenaNet Founder Mike O'Brien Will Be Satisfied When Guild Wars 2 Is The Most Successful MMO, Period"
"“We’re in it to win it this time,” said O’Brien. “We were number two to World of Warcraft with Guild Wars, now we want to beat them. We’ll be satisfied when the Guild Wars 2 is the most successful MMO."
"As for the World of Warcraft-killer slogan that has been bandied about in the press, O’Brien said “nothing is going to kill WoW other than WoW. Games just don’t die. But do gamers think we’ve seen the most popular online game we’ve ever seen and we’ll never see something more popular than that? I don’t think so. One MMO has been on the top of the heap for seven years now, but there’s been a progression in the industry for other games being able to attract more and more players. And we’re set to climb to the top.”
I like that ANet gets it that nothing will kill WoW but Blizzard, which they're doing a fine job of doing it themselves.
It was still Sunday for me so I meant last weekend now technically. Bad wording from late night sedatives, lol.
If it was this past weekend, I'd only have a few hours on Sunday to even play at best so I'm glad it wasn't.
I love his work, its pretty impressive.
Btw the email about pre purchase GW2 is because your email is registered in the GW2 Newsletter:
That is something that made me really hyped about GW2, finally a MMO that i'm interested for that eliminates the problem of seeing players in a quest area and rage because i will need to go in circles and find a mob to first hit it.
Love that arenanet encourages people to group up and don't hate if you encounter another person, i mean, even finding a crafting resource as a Ore and that both of the people who found it can mine it!? Oh happiness.
Complistic
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Does anyone remember a video that shows off the gw2 beta's different settings? Like low/med/high? I remember seeing one or two but I can't find any now.
Complistic
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gaf is always so helpful. thank you sir.
RepairmanJack
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I am not sure if this is accurate to the current build anymore. It still gives a general idea but TB commented that the press build during the last beta seemed to have a graphical improvement over the one in the video. Not sure how big of a difference it is though as they seem great as they are.
Ugh, no release date still? Have fun in the beta, guys, but I'm not plopping down $60 on something that I have no idea when it's going to launch.
SWTOR: Three months before launch.
TERA: Five months before launch.
Age of Conan: Seven months before launch.
WoW is the outlier (3 weeks). I'm really disappointed we still don't have a date yet. I'll be watching the videos you guys post!
SWTOR: Three months before launch.
TERA: Five months before launch.
Age of Conan: Seven months before launch.
WoW is the outlier (3 weeks). I'm really disappointed we still don't have a date yet. I'll be watching the videos you guys post!
Complistic
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I just needed to give someone a general idea.
Expect it soon is all I'm gonna say. ArenaNet's alphas and (very exclusive) closed betas run for at least as long as the huge public betas of those games, and that's where they're doing the majority of the work.
Yep, they do the bulk testing internally for years that other devs only do for 6 months leading up to launch publicly.
Also, this was amusing. It's one thing to say I prefer X over Y, but to say stuff like
http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20120423
"and it doesn't have a combat system that does anything truly different either. The features are well implemented, but they're features I've seen in so many games before. Nothing about the game really felt all that new and exciting."
The same article talks up Tera and how revolutionary the combat is and it just made me face_palm. This guy is in the 1% in terms of impressions and I have the feeling he went into GW2 ready to hate it simply because he already liked Tera.
TERA is all combat. Everything else that supplements the game is average at best. Guild Wars 2 has good combat as well as other systems that really push the genre forward in a different direction. I'm not saying TERA is bad but if anyone thinks otherwise about GW2 is deluding themselves.
July is the likely release month, but this is my own speculation based on a couple things.
Tera is indeed all combat, but even then you're still standing still when using your skills even though it's supposed to be actiony. An aiming reticule isn't going to do much to change the fact that it's still all very stationary.
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To be fair, I also find the dialogue scenes a little jarring. They look great, but there's something about the animations or something that seems very unnatural. It's hard to put my finger on it.
But yeah, his claim about the combat or other features holds no water at all. Couldn't be more wrong. From what little I've seen of Tera, it seemed like it had good ideas (movement based, aiming), bogged down by bad ideas (typical grinding convention, unable to shoot and move). It actually felt like a halfway compromise between old MMOs and GW2. Disclaimer: Could be entirely wrong.
The simple fact that you have an aiming reticle completely changes everything, ESPECIALLY for ranged players.
The simple fact that your basic attacks home in GW2 and not in TERA makes them both incredibly different.
But I'm not touching this topic again. I end up talking in circles. Have fun in beta! Excited to see what "real" players think/experience.
The simple fact that your basic attacks home in GW2 and not in TERA makes them both incredibly different.
But I'm not touching this topic again. I end up talking in circles. Have fun in beta! Excited to see what "real" players think/experience.
Fair enough, though you've been able to get "real" impressions for nearly 2 years if you wanted them.
Alex
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The combat is a half step between a hotkey MMO and an ARPG. The rest of the game is very standard Korean MMO. It's not a bad game, but I grew tired of it quickly due to how wonky the tuning was and how incredibly poor the questing was. I might try it in the future again, but full price box + 15 a month isn't worth it to me.
GW2s convention busters plus the ability to just play it, stop, and resume whenever is such a massive appeal. I didn't really like the first GW, but everything I read about this one seems like its so forward thinking and polished.
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There's a sub fee for Tera? O_O Wow, that's unfortunate. I just assumed it was F2P like every other Korean MMO ever.
I'm not really sure why people have such problems with the lack of a release date. Especially people who are interested in pre-purchasing it. If you're that interested, plunk the cash down. It's not that hard. It's not like ArenaNet is taking your money and killing babies with it 4 months before release and then suddenly applying it to development as soon as the game is out. You're likely even justifying further expenses to NCSoft as that early vote of consumer confidence rolls in. Is it really that big of an issue?
Alex
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Hard to blame anyone for not being comfortable with paying full price up front for a game they haven't played yet with no release date. I think more people might be comfortable if you could give it a test drive before plonking down, but that's aways an issue with MMOs and games in general at times but MMos are always so dIvisive
The people that have a problem with it are people who don't know whether this game is good or not. Of course those who are excited/intending on buying the game are going to plop down the money. rofl.
It's a good thing nobody reads CAD then. What few people bothered to read his terribly unfunny webcomic stopped listening toBuckley the minute he did his little miscarriage bit. He's the glaring example for why "Gamer Webcomics" suck.
Hmm? You do know players can dodge out of the path of projectiles, block/absorb/reflect them with shields/spells, etc? Shots don't follow players unless they're specifically designed to (like the Elementalist's Phoenix, pretty sure even that can be dodged away from too).
Wait 3 months.
I dont know if anyone can help me out, but I am torn on getting this game. I mean, it sounds great, but after playing SWOTOR, I'm not sure if Im just sick and tired of MMO games.
I played FFXI and WoW and enjoyed both of those for a while before i got sick of them and quit. SWOTOR though, came a few years after, and while the personal story was great, everything else, especially the combat, was just boring.
I guess my question is, does anyone else find SWOTOR combat and questing incredibly dull? If so, what is your impressions on GW2's combat? Is it that much better?
The lack of subscription is definitely nice, but 60 bucks is still 60 bucks, and I'd rather be almost sure this time that ill like it
I played FFXI and WoW and enjoyed both of those for a while before i got sick of them and quit. SWOTOR though, came a few years after, and while the personal story was great, everything else, especially the combat, was just boring.
I guess my question is, does anyone else find SWOTOR combat and questing incredibly dull? If so, what is your impressions on GW2's combat? Is it that much better?
The lack of subscription is definitely nice, but 60 bucks is still 60 bucks, and I'd rather be almost sure this time that ill like it
These are my impressions from the Beta. Also, I was also highly put off after TOR so I'm in the same boat as you.
http://www.rpgsite.net/articles/368-guild-wars-2-beta-impressions
Rofl, that's what I said on the podcast. Oh speaking of which, Grizz needs to work on the Youtube version.
Watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYXpLDcfkdY
Read my thread:
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1058358-Guild-Wars-2-Mass-info-for-the-uninitiated-READ-ME!
Boiling it down to the most basic of concepts, I can explain how the combat is different.
I was in one of the TOR betas. I spent about 3 hours on it and was disgusted. I never touched it again. I played GW2 and was upset when I had to stop playing. There is almost no similarity at all between the games.
shh it'll be up before you go to bed
RepairmanJack
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I really fail to see how the reticle changes anything in Tera. Sure it changes what you can target, but if you know the person has to stand still to attack what exactly is there to actively aim for?
I went into the beta a couple weeks back knowing absolutely nothing about the game besides it was meant to be an action oriented MMO, and I left out of the beta thinking it felt more static than WoW. I just didn't understand how your character had to stand still to even cast instant abilities. Maybe I just didn't get high enough to where you could actually move more in fights. I also only played a archer and mage whatever those classes were actually called.
This thread goes far too fast. I mean to write a reply, get caught up doing something for 10 minutes, and when I get back we're almost on a new page.
Since everyone seems to be going on about TERA, I thought I should jump in and give my opinions on the subject:
Personally, I disagree with what was written by Tim Buckley. I was extremely hyped for TERA before I got hyped for GW2 and I played in the Korean OBT for TERA back in January of last year. I enjoyed it. It was a solid experience. I came back and have been playing for a couple days straight during the NA OBT, and again, it's a solid experience and I'm enjoying my time. But I still think GW2 is significantly better than TERA in almost every way. Why?
GW2 seems to desire to strike innovation in every aspect of the MMO experience. TERA's combat system is cool and innovative, but let's be honest here: the innovation stops there. Every other aspect of the game, while solid, is not too far off from the very traditional formula for an MMO. It strikes a good balance between its Korean and Western counterparts, which hasn't really been seen before, but it still feels like an oldish MMO, made to today's standards, but not beyond what we could have hoped for.
GW2 seems strikingly different though. GW2 may not have as innovative of a story experience SWTOR's, but what it does in the personal story/dynamic event regard is absolutely innovative. The combat system is a great hybrid between TERA's action combat (aiming) and ye 'olde tab-based targeting. Other features like WvW are also innovative above TERA's battlegrounds or GvG. TERA may have the political system, but that really just seems like a toy for the EXTREMELY devoted players of the game to screw around with. WvW is for every single last person in GW2. Even in minor regards, like GW2's removal of a queue system, or the fact that you have a home server and can jump to any other server at any time. These are just all inclusive of a better game experience than TERA is giving.
Just my two cents on the matter.
Since everyone seems to be going on about TERA, I thought I should jump in and give my opinions on the subject:
Personally, I disagree with what was written by Tim Buckley. I was extremely hyped for TERA before I got hyped for GW2 and I played in the Korean OBT for TERA back in January of last year. I enjoyed it. It was a solid experience. I came back and have been playing for a couple days straight during the NA OBT, and again, it's a solid experience and I'm enjoying my time. But I still think GW2 is significantly better than TERA in almost every way. Why?
GW2 seems to desire to strike innovation in every aspect of the MMO experience. TERA's combat system is cool and innovative, but let's be honest here: the innovation stops there. Every other aspect of the game, while solid, is not too far off from the very traditional formula for an MMO. It strikes a good balance between its Korean and Western counterparts, which hasn't really been seen before, but it still feels like an oldish MMO, made to today's standards, but not beyond what we could have hoped for.
GW2 seems strikingly different though. GW2 may not have as innovative of a story experience SWTOR's, but what it does in the personal story/dynamic event regard is absolutely innovative. The combat system is a great hybrid between TERA's action combat (aiming) and ye 'olde tab-based targeting. Other features like WvW are also innovative above TERA's battlegrounds or GvG. TERA may have the political system, but that really just seems like a toy for the EXTREMELY devoted players of the game to screw around with. WvW is for every single last person in GW2. Even in minor regards, like GW2's removal of a queue system, or the fact that you have a home server and can jump to any other server at any time. These are just all inclusive of a better game experience than TERA is giving.
Just my two cents on the matter.
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
Is mentoring still in the game? I know sidekicking down is, but I thought ANet may have taken mentoring out for some reason. I kinda hope they did, honestly.
No, it's not, I probably should edit that bit out if I haven't already.
Also:
http://www.g4tv.com/games/pc/45299/...p-hands-on-impressions-get-to-the-clocktower/
He got the amount of players wrong to an extent, competitive pvp is 5v5, but custom servers can go up to 10v10.
"Personally, I'm a PvP fiend. I earned the Battlemaster achievement in World of Warcraft on two characters, played arena competitively for a long time (resulting in a few broken headsets), and spent most of my time in both Rift and Star Wars: The Old Republic doing PvP. Guild Wars 2 blows them all out of the water. Guild Wars 2's PvP is innovative, it's fast-paced, it's rewarding, but it's not scathing if you lose a match either; just get back in there and play again. It's truly skill vs. skill, and with such long-term substantial developer support, I can see the competitive PvP in the game evolving in to one of the major selling points of the title."
I've gotten no e-mails and the account maintenance page only lets me sign in with my guild wars 1 account e-mail/password still despite prepurchasing and registering with my current e-mail...
Either way, I'll get in somehow!
Me too, but they said emails will be going out Monday/Tuesday, so no reason to worry.
LumpOfCole
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My first Guild Wars title was Factions, and my main character through all of the Guild Wars campaigns was the Ritualist. I admit I played him more as a healer and a necromancer (exploding corpse necromancer is best necromancer). I really enjoyed Cantha but I never did really get back into GW:F when the whole Cantha event was happening earlier this year and last year. Can someone tl;dr me a statement of what happened to Cantha in the lore prior to Guild Wars 2?
Out of Guild Wars 2, What I really want to play (after looking at various sites and videos) is a Mesmer. I also hope that I will eventually get a top hat. If the Charr can be Mesmers, then I'm definitely making a Charr Mesmer. The ultimate goal is a Charr Mesmer with a top hat and a cane.
Out of Guild Wars 2, What I really want to play (after looking at various sites and videos) is a Mesmer. I also hope that I will eventually get a top hat. If the Charr can be Mesmers, then I'm definitely making a Charr Mesmer. The ultimate goal is a Charr Mesmer with a top hat and a cane.
No... vember? Rofl.
Possible spoilers for those who don't want to know about Cantha yet:
Cantha, also known as the Empire of the Dragon, is a vast empire located to the southwest of the continent of Tyria and the sunken Battle Isles. When Zhaitan awoke, his fleet of undead corsairs blocked access to Cantha by seizing control of the Strait of Malchor. No contact has been made with the empire for over a hundred years, save for the occasional castaway washing up on the shores of the Tarnished Coast.
Its last known emperor is Usoku, successor to Kisu. He defeated the Kurzicks and the Luxons, re-annexing them into the empire, before driving all non-humans from the lands. Anyone who disagreed with his rule was exiled.
Cantha contains four regions, Shing Jea Island, Kaineng City, the Echovald Forest and the Jade Sea. After the defeat of Shiro the Betrayer, the curse of the Jade Wind was lifted and the forest slowly came out of its stone slumber while the sea reverted to its watery state. Due to the slowness of the progression, it is unknown how far the forest and sea reverted to their natural states before Cantha went isolationist.
Its last known emperor is Usoku, successor to Kisu. He defeated the Kurzicks and the Luxons, re-annexing them into the empire, before driving all non-humans from the lands. Anyone who disagreed with his rule was exiled.
Cantha contains four regions, Shing Jea Island, Kaineng City, the Echovald Forest and the Jade Sea. After the defeat of Shiro the Betrayer, the curse of the Jade Wind was lifted and the forest slowly came out of its stone slumber while the sea reverted to its watery state. Due to the slowness of the progression, it is unknown how far the forest and sea reverted to their natural states before Cantha went isolationist.
LumpOfCole
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Wow, so it sounds like Cantha got turned into a fantasy North Korea there. My Kurzick brothers, one day I shall avenge you.
There's a hat in the cash shop that's not exactly a top hat, but close. I imagine you could dye it to match;
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