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P R O M E T H E U S |OT| Ridley Scott goes back to Building Better Worlds
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Yeah that makeup was horrible.
They could've just used an actual old man. Then the thought crossed my mind, he's going to show up in the sequels and he'll be younger because he found the magic solution he was looking for, and that''s why they used guy pearce in that crappy makeup.
MINDCEPTION
Sure. We learn so much about him.
For example, he's only human and all that criticism does get to him. Still, it has its uses:
"The mean negatives, there is nothing pleasant about that experience whatsoever for me. I try to not address it unless it’s so horrible that I feel the need to tell everybody who follows me, “Just so you know, there are people out there who says this.”"
Yes, if he retweets the worst / most aggressive criticism, people will sympathize. Good call.
On the other hand, "if somebody says something positive it’s something I want to keep to myself" (not that he necessarily does, but he wants to).
Now, he doesn't say anything about aspiring to improve his craft and learning valuable lessons from some of that criticism, but I'm sure it just slipped his mind.
Wait, no, I'm being silly. About the criticism:
"My feeling is: this is what I signed up for. I am driven and captivated and interested in these open-ended stories that have a high level of interpretation to them. There’s a certain level of frustration that comes with that package."
Lindelof humbly admits that it's his fault for writing smart stuff. Can't be helped.
Me too. Through out the whole movie I was anticipating him. And then, during credits, I realized that he was the old man. :/
How much did the mission cost again? It was some ridiculous amount I remember. And then they write in mercenary characters that are only in it for the money...
With all the money they had, and the obvious importance of the mission, they couldn't find anyone better than random mercenaries (with a degree, whoopee), who weren't even interested in the mission in the first place. How would it even be possible to obtain people with a scientific degree, who are mercenaries, and don't care at all for a revolution in all their respective fields? Can't really get more ridiculous than that.
Mohawk guy being so scared at first he tries to run away, then loses his way (EVEN THOUGH HE'S THE ONE MAPPING THE FUCKING PLACE), then stumbles back into alien territory, and all of a sudden decides to investigate. Weirdest writing of a character, fuckin hell.
What was the first planet supposed to be? Earth? Because if it is, that's the dumbest shit ever. The alien spreads destroys his DNA and spreads it around - creating all life on Earth, right? So how the fuck did we end up having the same DNA as them? None of it makes a lick of sense, and Lindelof spouting that it has a high level of interpretation, which it hasn't at all, well that just shows he's kind of stupid, doesn't it.
With all the money they had, and the obvious importance of the mission, they couldn't find anyone better than random mercenaries (with a degree, whoopee), who weren't even interested in the mission in the first place. How would it even be possible to obtain people with a scientific degree, who are mercenaries, and don't care at all for a revolution in all their respective fields? Can't really get more ridiculous than that.
Mohawk guy being so scared at first he tries to run away, then loses his way (EVEN THOUGH HE'S THE ONE MAPPING THE FUCKING PLACE), then stumbles back into alien territory, and all of a sudden decides to investigate. Weirdest writing of a character, fuckin hell.
What was the first planet supposed to be? Earth? Because if it is, that's the dumbest shit ever. The alien spreads destroys his DNA and spreads it around - creating all life on Earth, right? So how the fuck did we end up having the same DNA as them? None of it makes a lick of sense, and Lindelof spouting that it has a high level of interpretation, which it hasn't at all, well that just shows he's kind of stupid, doesn't it.
THE-Pink-Dagger
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Keep going Erigu, you've been spewing your hate at the movie and Lindelof ever since the movie was released. I find it fascinating that since you hate the movie so much, you keep posting regularly here, what is your problem, do you need to make your voice heard or does it make you feel good about yourself?!
Lindelof has been extremely honest about this from the beginning, he also did a Q&A with Seth Graham-Sith where he addressed a lot of things, not only on Prometheus, but about the reception of the movie, how the situation is (Scott sought him out and what he and Spaihts did was to execute Ridley's vision). You can keep hating on him because you and many others don't agree with the choices he did, but if the script was that bad, I think that Scott would have said something.
I still fail to understand all the hate on this, but I really hope we'll see the extended cut on the second BR edition, I do agree some scenes are too short, Weyland was an unnecessary character, but I really love the movie otherwise.
Btw, Spaihts' script, had it been adapted just the way it was would have been incredibly boring and uninmaginative, it was pure chestbursters, facehuggers, xenomorphs shit with everyone or practically being killed, basically a remake or reboot, not interesting since we've seen it again and again.
Lindelof's take to mreverse the balance from 80% Alien, and 20% Engineer to 80% Engineer and 20% Alien was the right one.
As he says, what he likes (open endings, mysteries) will frustrate a lot of people but that does not make him a hack, NOR a douchebag. Just because he says how it is in interviews does not make him a moron or an idiot. Most of you guys would be incapable of doing what this guy does. You dont write scripts in your sleep, it's a lot of work.
Lindelof has been extremely honest about this from the beginning, he also did a Q&A with Seth Graham-Sith where he addressed a lot of things, not only on Prometheus, but about the reception of the movie, how the situation is (Scott sought him out and what he and Spaihts did was to execute Ridley's vision). You can keep hating on him because you and many others don't agree with the choices he did, but if the script was that bad, I think that Scott would have said something.
I still fail to understand all the hate on this, but I really hope we'll see the extended cut on the second BR edition, I do agree some scenes are too short, Weyland was an unnecessary character, but I really love the movie otherwise.
Btw, Spaihts' script, had it been adapted just the way it was would have been incredibly boring and uninmaginative, it was pure chestbursters, facehuggers, xenomorphs shit with everyone or practically being killed, basically a remake or reboot, not interesting since we've seen it again and again.
Lindelof's take to mreverse the balance from 80% Alien, and 20% Engineer to 80% Engineer and 20% Alien was the right one.
As he says, what he likes (open endings, mysteries) will frustrate a lot of people but that does not make him a hack, NOR a douchebag. Just because he says how it is in interviews does not make him a moron or an idiot. Most of you guys would be incapable of doing what this guy does. You dont write scripts in your sleep, it's a lot of work.
It's not that bad:
they all died, so that's only 2 years and some change of hypersleep
You just used "Lindelof" and "honest" in the same sentence. I'm not sure how you managed to do that.
Yes, let's act as if the movie weren't out there already.
Jack Scofield
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Using a real old man in the role wouldn't prohibit Guy Pearce from playing the younger version of the character.
http://www.slashfilm.com/prometheus...ly-15-minutes-of-footage-deleted-from-ending/
35 minutes of extra footage on the Blu-ray. 15 of which is for the third act.
35 minutes of extra footage on the Blu-ray. 15 of which is for the third act.
The Bookerman
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WTF, didn't Scott say he only shed 7 mins off the movie or something?
What a load of bull.
Really hope they provide the option to watch an extended cut of the film with these scenes included.
Rentahamster
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oh snap.
Insane Metal
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brandonh83
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Yep. I care not unless its implemented back into the actual film. Many of us, I think want these scenes back in an attempt to improve the film; if they're just extras on the Blu-ray it doesn't help shit.
lilbaby Jesus
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Well,this is what we've all been waiting for.
Escape Goat
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Well, there certainly is no accounting for taste.
Would you have liked it if i had batman at number 4? I must add that would be a very generous addition.
dat hollywood
ResidentDante
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Dat bounce!
On topic: Can't wait for the blu-ray, I've seen it at the cinema twice this summer!
The Outsider
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This news pleases me.
Escape Goat
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Depends on which Batman. I'm not a big fan of Nolan movies.
jonnyp
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I have a hard time seeing how any more footage can even begin to make sense of the characters' actions and motivations - the script is that bad. Not to mention all the other problems this movie has.
Still enjoyed it though but I'm just left thinking what could have been...
Batman & Robin.
Spiffy_1st
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That sounds like a really weird scene to cut out. Do we have any idea when the bluray will be released?
I think it needed more things cut than it needed added back in. Movie would have been perfect as a short story.
As a short story...what?
You know, shorter than what it was. I don't understand your question.
gamemadmax
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Well, the more the merrier....i guess.
Fascinating...
Padding out guff with more guff isn't the answer, especially in Prometheus' case. I don't know if you're here to discuss or just to pontificate about how awesome you are.
So a film which posed too many questions should instead be butchered even further...instead of you know attempting to give more time and maybe a few more answers to the audience of the questions it posed?
As I said...fascinating...
Absolutely, at the moment it's some halfway-house of objective exposition and subjective audience musing. It can be stream-lined to be either one or the other, and make a better movie by doing so. Attempting to answer these questions, based on what we have to go on already, is setting up a trap for itself. More things for it to trip over, and it's already had a rocky start.
Not all movies have to answer posed questions, most of the best movies don't even attempt to. Excepting the extra plot points we expect in the EE, I don't need to see any additions like character-development, or characters-reacting-to-things, which were a few of the more common criticisms of the film.
One of my first posts here after seeing the movie was wishing for a Director's Cut, not for what can be added, but what can be changed. I'm still looking forward to seeing this.
I'm glad I've fascinated you, but as Truman Capote said 'I believe more in the scissors than I do in the pencil.'
Length does not mean greater understanding. A great bulk of Prometheus' running time was not in service to giving you answers.
A shorter, focused film would likely provide more answers. But it's not a question of editing, but more of script conception.
Glass Rebel
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Just watched the movie.
Disappointing to say the least. I don't know if it's the popular opinion around here but I prefer the first half vastly over the second, gave me some real Alien vibes and Fassbender as David was terrific. Some shots were genius, especially one with David roaming the ship, showing what kind of desolation he was exposed to for >2yrs. Made me even more uncomfortable watching him on screen. Standout performance or me.
After the two scientists found the tentacle everything fell apart and if it weren't for the actors and visuals I'd mistake them for two different movies. The zombie scene gotta be one of the most useless scenes in recent memory. It had zero effect on anything. Ending was another level of terrible.
I'd still need time to collect my thoughts and write them down, maybe even a second viewing, but I'm not sure anybody cares so...
Disappointing to say the least. I don't know if it's the popular opinion around here but I prefer the first half vastly over the second, gave me some real Alien vibes and Fassbender as David was terrific. Some shots were genius, especially one with David roaming the ship, showing what kind of desolation he was exposed to for >2yrs. Made me even more uncomfortable watching him on screen. Standout performance or me.
After the two scientists found the tentacle everything fell apart and if it weren't for the actors and visuals I'd mistake them for two different movies. The zombie scene gotta be one of the most useless scenes in recent memory. It had zero effect on anything. Ending was another level of terrible.
I'd still need time to collect my thoughts and write them down, maybe even a second viewing, but I'm not sure anybody cares so...
High five. Prometheus is my favourite movie so far this year as well.
Same. Avengers was fucking awesome too.
brandonh83
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I don't know what I think about Prometheus yet. Apparently I only got to see an incomplete cut in theaters.
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