Namomura said:DQS (Wii) art from Toriyama.
Mr. Pointy said:Isn't DQM coming out before the end of the year?
So, there will be a million-selling DQ game to leading into a 3 or 4 million-selling DQ game.farnham said:yep.. christmas release .. or something like that..
devilscallmedad said:Seriously Square Enix ain't much different from EA, still people seem to hate EA but like Square Enix. Is is the other way around in Japan
Mr. Pointy said:So, there will be a million-selling DQ game to leading into a 3 or 4 million-selling DQ game.
DQ9 is 60fps though.dark10x said:Thankfully, I don't play DQ, so this doesn't bother me...
However, I've been throwing out the argument that Nintendo's success is going to have a negative impact on my experiences in the future. I want NEXT-GEN games on 360/PS3 and the Wii/DS success could prevent that from happening as they will end up being developed for and limited by that hardware. Everyone laughed and claimed I was full of it, but you can see right here that I was right. That is EXACTLY what is happening. This same sort of thing is going to start happening on the Wii as well, you can bet on it. I've been looking forward to next generation games from Japanese developers and it looks like I won't be seeing many. Blue Dragon likely sent a message to developers who don't have the backing of MS, so 360 is going to be out. The PS3 situation seems rather dire as well.
dark10x said:I want NEXT-GEN games on 360/PS3 and the Wii/DS success could prevent that from happening as they will end up being developed for and limited by that hardware.
I don't think Joker will sell much more than a million. I could be proved wrong though.farnham said:if Dragon quest monster joker only sells million copies then yes..
teiresias said:How odd that I'd actually gone out and traded in my GBA SP and some PS2 games to buy a DS Lite yesterday afternoon without even thinking about Dragon Quest and the possibility of it coming to the system!
I do feel it's a step back. DQ8 was a wonderful world to explore, and pretty much the last purely "medieval" JRPG available for home consoles that didn't have some ridiculously pretentious, esoteric story. The graphical and audio greatness of 8 only made it even more fun to run around the world.
So, even after seeing the videos - which admittedly display nice smooth animation and framerate (though the animation of the actual world seems pretty subpar - note the waves on the "beach" which is like two frames of animation and the waves never seem to go back out to sea), I still think this is a step back for the series.
I saw the series as the last bastion for really old-school JRPG mechanics, and I saw DQ8 as a sign that we were finally seeing that extremely traditional gameplay placed into a somewhat more refined presentation that made it highly enjoyable to play.
Now, though, we get an action RPG? A freaking ACTION RPG? They can call it 9 all they want, but any DQ game that's an action rpg immediately becomes a side-story game to me. I wouldn't be surprised if people look back on this game like we look back on FFXI and think, "You know, they really should have given it a subtitle instead of a number since it's really not part of the main series."
So anyway, it being on the DS itself doesn't really bother me. It's the change to action RPG and the loss of a nicely evolving and enveloping presentation that bother me more. Quite frankly, if they were going the action RPG route it would have been much better on the Wii since that would open up more gameplay possibilities given the control scheme on the machine.
[EDIT]: I have to agree with dark10x's point above. I'm seriously starting to worry about whether we're truly going to get any next-gen experiences out of this "next gen" - at least from Japanese developers. Sure, there are some in the pipeline, but after that I wouldn't be surprised if they just all dry up. I blame it as much on the US audience's propensity for buying up all of EA's mediocre crap as much as I do the Japanese public's lust for non-games and portable gaming.
TheTrin said:I love how people are asking "who the hell would want to play things on a handheld instead of a console."
It's very simple gents: people with lives. I want to be able to dip into a game when I want to, not set aside a schedule to play a game. It becomes like another job. I spend about 16 hours awake, and about 10 of it outside the house.
It's not about what you want... it's about what I want! :loldark10x said:However, I've been throwing out the argument that Nintendo's success is going to have a negative impact on my experiences in the future.
DS had won Japan. Now it's time for sloppy seconds.Draft said:So, DS wins Japan... again?
dark10x said:Thankfully, I don't play DQ, so this doesn't bother me...
However, I've been throwing out the argument that Nintendo's success is going to have a negative impact on my experiences in the future. I want NEXT-GEN games on 360/PS3 and the Wii/DS success could prevent that from happening as they will end up being developed for and limited by that hardware. Everyone laughed and claimed I was full of it, but you can see right here that I was right. That is EXACTLY what is happening. This same sort of thing is going to start happening on the Wii as well, you can bet on it. I've been looking forward to next generation games from Japanese developers and it looks like I won't be seeing many. Blue Dragon likely sent a message to developers who don't have the backing of MS, so 360 is going to be out. The PS3 situation seems rather dire as well.
Honestly, I feel the exact same way. I think DQIX looks pretty good, and I'm definitely getting it, but I still stand by my original post that it's a HUGE step back, and Horii should be ashamed. My only hope is that this is really just a spinoff that he decided to deem as IX, sorta like FFXI. I'm totally cool with that. He better have X in the works as a full blown VIII-esque console installment, or I'ma get seriously pissed.dark10x said:Thankfully, I don't play DQ, so this doesn't bother me...
However, I've been throwing out the argument that Nintendo's success is going to have a negative impact on my experiences in the future. I want NEXT-GEN games on 360/PS3 and the Wii/DS success could prevent that from happening as they will end up being developed for and limited by that hardware. Everyone laughed and claimed I was full of it, but you can see right here that I was right. That is EXACTLY what is happening. This same sort of thing is going to start happening on the Wii as well, you can bet on it. I've been looking forward to next generation games from Japanese developers and it looks like I won't be seeing many. Blue Dragon likely sent a message to developers who don't have the backing of MS, so 360 is going to be out. The PS3 situation seems rather dire as well.
dark10x said:Thankfully, I don't play DQ, so this doesn't bother me...
However, I've been throwing out the argument that Nintendo's success is going to have a negative impact on my experiences in the future. I want NEXT-GEN games on 360/PS3 and the Wii/DS success could prevent that from happening as they will end up being developed for and limited by that hardware. Everyone laughed and claimed I was full of it, but you can see right here that I was right. That is EXACTLY what is happening. This same sort of thing is going to start happening on the Wii as well, you can bet on it. I've been looking forward to next generation games from Japanese developers and it looks like I won't be seeing many. Blue Dragon likely sent a message to developers who don't have the backing of MS, so 360 is going to be out. The PS3 situation seems rather dire as well.
BEATS CHESTgamergirly said:DAMN!
Okay, so Final Fantasy is Sony's and now Dragon Quest is Nintendo's. 1/2 split of Square-Enix for each company is what it's looking like
I have to ****ing get a DS now! Whoever is denying themselves just isnt a gamer :lol
Cheesemeister said:Iwata looks super-excited there. Doesn't he realize what just happened?
Mr. Pointy said:I don't think Joker will sell much more than a million. I could be proved wrong though.
You can tell this right now... how?teiresias said:So anyway, it being on the DS itself doesn't really bother me. It's the change to action RPG and the loss of a nicely evolving and enveloping presentation that bother me more. Quite frankly, if they were going the action RPG route it would have been much better on the Wii since that would open up more gameplay possibilities given the control scheme on the machine.
dark10x said:Thankfully, I don't play DQ, so this doesn't bother me...
However, I've been throwing out the argument that Nintendo's success is going to have a negative impact on my experiences in the future. I want NEXT-GEN games on 360/PS3 and the Wii/DS success could prevent that from happening as they will end up being developed for and limited by that hardware. Everyone laughed and claimed I was full of it, but you can see right here that I was right. That is EXACTLY what is happening. This same sort of thing is going to start happening on the Wii as well, you can bet on it. I've been looking forward to next generation games from Japanese developers and it looks like I won't be seeing many. Blue Dragon likely sent a message to developers who don't have the backing of MS, so 360 is going to be out. The PS3 situation seems rather dire as well.
Cheesemeister said:Iwata looks super-excited there. Doesn't he realize what just happened?