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[kewlmyc]

Good, it'd be bad to be the only launch FPS to be 30fps.

 

[Sub_Level]

If we get a day 1 launch shooter running at 60fps, then I have high hopes for the coming gen.

BF4 AND Ghosts will be 60 and they're at launch!

 

[jett]

You can see it running at 60fps(with drops) here:

http://www.gamersyde.com/news_gc_ps4_interface_video-14455_en.html

 

[zoukka]

Yeah it was clearly running at unlocked framerate when they played it in the PS4 OS demonstration.

 

[matrix-cat]

Secondly, do developers ever aim for between 30 and 60? I know some games have variable frame rates, but why don't they settle on 45fps for a smooth experience still with loads of detail?

TVs run at 60Hz, so with a 30FPS game they show one unique frame for every two TV refreshes, and with a 60FPS it's one for one. At 45FPS it'd have to show one one frame twice, then the next frame once, and so on, and that makes for an ugly, jittery look that's actually less pleasant than 30FPS. You get similar problems watching 24FPS movies on 60Hz TVs, and some TVs have special motion-judder-cancelling modes that I think throttle the screen's refresh rate to 24Hz. The ideal thing would be if a TV was able to increase or throttle its own refresh rate to match the game's framerate, but there's nothing out there that does it.

Newer PC monitors can be set at a variety of different refresh rates, though, so you can do neat stuff with PC games and framerate limiting programs. If you set your monitor to 144Hz, you can lock a game at 48FPS and have it sync up perfectly with three refreshes per frame, or set the monitor to 100Hz and lock the framerate at 50FPS.

 

[Wishmaster92]

And it looked that good. Very nice.

Maybe this is why the game doesn't seem to have aa in multiplayer?

 

[sajj316]

I'll believe it when I have it in front of me .. same goes for #Driveclub.

 

[TheRealTalker]

BF4 AND Ghosts will be 60 and they're at launch!

I don't think COD can be considered in any top graphical shooters like KZ and BF hype of both of them running at 60fps

 

[Cyberia]

https://twitter.com/EboltGG/status/370519927624855552

 

[red731]

Same guy and relevant since he work for Sony (SOE)

What

That is so awesome! And damn at this news.

 

[stryke]

More confirmation directly from GG

https://twitter.com/EboltGG/status/370519927624855552

@NaughtyGods Yes it is true we are targeting 60fps for the Multiplayer

edit: damn you Cyberia

 

[aganu]

This is great news.

Thread title should be updated with the word "multiplayer".

 

[jett]

Single-player still 30fps then huh.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Single-player still 30fps then huh.

I'm fine with that. Go all out with the visuals for the single player.

 

[JawzPause]

Holy shit 60fps with those graphics!?
The free DLC already sealed the deal for me but this is a great bonus.
GG are technical wizards.

 

[LCfiner]

ah, multiplayer only. not totally unexpected (but still great news)

If they had those massive environments from the single player reveal and all that working at 60 for a launch title, I'd have been shocked.

 

[AOC83]

https://twitter.com/EboltGG/status/370519927624855552

Thank god only multiplayer then.

 

[Chuck Norris]

So why is framerate dropping to 20s in the trailer?

Bad encoding? The UI trailer showed the game looking around 60 FPS before dipping once the action starts. Was probably hovering between 40 -60. Definitely above 30

http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_killzone_shadow_fall_gc_ps4_interface-30578_en.html

 

[Varth]

You know what? Makes sense. Go for eye candy and rocksolid 30s on SP, and 60fps on MP. Now tell me you're going to keep me hooked on multi longer than KZ2 and 3, please. I had so much fun with them, and yet they felt "dry" so soon after everything was unlocked.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Day one!!

 

[x-Lundz-x]

Interesting...

30FPS for single player and 60 for multiplayer. Regardless the game looks amazing. I cannot wait.

 

[Violater]

Interesting...

30FPS for single player and 60 for multiplayer. Regardless the game looks amazing. I cannot wait.

This seems weird to me, that cinematic single player experience I guess.

 

[Drencrom]

https://twitter.com/EboltGG/status/370519927624855552

Sooo good

Between this and their announcement that future DLC maps will be free of charge convinced me to pick this up

 

[LCfiner]

I wonder if - in addition to the faster FR - the MP will also have quicker aiming and less weight to the guns that SP will?

 

[abstract alien]

30fps single player looks fucking terrible next to the 60fps multiplayer.

 

[Perkel]

TVs run at 60Hz, so with a 30FPS game they show one unique frame for every two TV refreshes, and with a 60FPS it's one for one. At 45FPS it'd have to show one one frame twice, then the next frame once, and so on, and that makes for an ugly, jittery look that's actually less pleasant than 30FPS. You get similar problems watching 24FPS movies on 60Hz TVs, and some TVs have special motion-judder-cancelling modes that I think throttle the screen's refresh rate to 24Hz. The ideal thing would be if a TV was able to increase or throttle its own refresh rate to match the game's framerate, but there's nothing out there that does it.

Newer PC monitors can be set at a variety of different refresh rates, though, so you can do neat stuff with PC games and framerate limiting programs. If you set your monitor to 144Hz, you can lock a game at 48FPS and have it sync up perfectly with three refreshes per frame, or set the monitor to 100Hz and lock the framerate at 50FPS.

That is bullshit overall almost all pc gamers play with unlocked framerate and there is no thing wrong with screen same as mgs4 and gow 3 unlocked framerate didn't introduce problems

1 frame out of 60 isn't really noticeable

 

[Alienous]

I wonder if - in addition to the faster FR - the MP will also have quicker aiming and less weight to the guns that SP will?

Less input lag? Because that's what the 'weight' is. 60fps will result in less visible input lag.

 

[Elixist]

I'm fine with that. Go all out with the visuals for the single player.

same thats an awesome compromise. and free dlc, gg GG.

 

[pharmboy044]

Won't it feel weird if the campaign is 30fps and the MP is 60fps?

 

[The Omega Man]

This is a Megaton, gamechanger right here guys. A gorgeous looking Killzone game on PS4 and running at 60fps, what a nice surprise

 

[GameSeeker]

This is a smart way to address frame rate vs. graphics complexity.

Target 30fps for SP mode and add tons of graphics eye-candy. Target 60fps for MP modes for smooth, fast action and fun. More games should take this path.

 

[x-Lundz-x]

This seems weird to me, that cinematic single player experience I guess.

It might be a little jarring at first but I imagine it will be no big deal. I always play SP first and complete the campaign before going into multiplayer anyway. I want all the eye candy I can get in single player from these programming gods.

 

[Yoshichan]

It'll feel really weird going from SP 30fps to MP 60fps :/

 

[LCfiner]

Less input lag? Because that's what the 'weight' is. 60fps will result in less visible input lag.

yeah, but if the "lag" is deliberately put in there as a design choice, as it was with KZ2, they could choose to keep it in or remove it even if it was 60fps.

Anyway, I thik I just need to read impressions and look at more MP footage to see what kind of gun feel they're going for.

 

[Canis lupus]

I may put 100s of hours in the multiplayer if it is anything like KZ2!

Also here is the 60fps E3 trailer:

http://www.gamersyde.com/news_e3_60_fps_trailer_for_killzone_shadow_fall-14185_en.html

So smooth!

 

[BurnOutBrighter]

Welcome back to GAF's good side, Guerilla. Enjoy having GIFs made about you.

 

[TheRealTalker]

It'll feel really weird going from SP 30fps to MP 60fps :/

played SP went on MP and your just like... "what did it speed up?...Aw Yeah"... goes back to SP and your like "Aww Yeah them graphics"

 

[jet1911]

Single-player still 30fps then huh.

60fps is more important in MP than in SP I think, so I'm ok with that.

 

[ethomaz]

You lied to me Sony

 

[TouchMyBox]

noooooo i'd prefer 30fps with lots of eye candy

What's the point of pretty graphics if they are nauseating to look at?

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

Well the good thing about the framerate split between modes is that the people who say they can't see the difference will finally have a game that lets them test that theory.

 

[Jonboy]

Why not go ahead and target 60 for the single player as well?

 

[Violater]

It might be a little jarring at first but I imagine it will be no big deal. I always play SP first and complete the campaign before going into multiplayer anyway. I want all the eye candy I can get in single player from these programming gods.

I hardly ever go back and play the SP to be honest, but I guess the trade off is the MP won't have all the eye candy as the SP.

 

[Sub_Level]

Welcome back to GAF's good side, Guerilla. Enjoy having GIFs made about you.

I think they've been reading posts here and specifcally targetting concerns lol. A Titanfall dev or two posts here, I think, which is awesome.

 

[Nozem]

Praise da lawd!

60fps for multiplayer is excellent. Once everybody is used to that there's no way they're going back to 30 for the next game.

 

[Radec]

https://twitter.com/EboltGG/status/370519927624855552

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Really impressive.

Every thing they've announced about KZ:SF this week has been great news.

Looks like they're really competing hard to compete with CoD and BF.

 

[RooMHM]

played SP went on MP and your just like... "what did it speed up?...Aw Yeah"... goes back to SP and your like "Aww Yeah them graphics"

In theory yes. I still have to see "them graphics" to be honest.

 

[Coolwhip]

Pretty smart compromise tbh. Dutch people are good at compromises, it's a fact.

 

[Sub_Level]

Well the good thing about the framerate split between modes is that the people who say they can't see the difference will finally have a game that lets them test that theory.

Dude my grandma suffered from framerate blindness in her right eye since child birth and I dont appreciate that demeaning tone of yours.