Darklord said:One thing I'm torn over is I want to keep my save, but my save is on 360 and I want ME2 on PC.
Buy the original on PC and play that before the sequel is released or you can stick to the 360 version it's up to you.
Darklord said:One thing I'm torn over is I want to keep my save, but my save is on 360 and I want ME2 on PC.
:lolEmCeeGramr said:No, because this probably happened:
Crew Member: Joker, c'mon, let's get out of he-
Joker: What!? You think I can't get out by myself because I'm in a wheelchair? Huh? Is that it? Making fun of Cripply Joker Broken Legs? Well I can get around just fine, you bipedal bigot, so shut the hell up and go away.
Crew Member: ...I didn't even know you were disabled. But fine, sheesh, if you're so capable, follow me. *runs off*
Joker: uh wait a second come back i was just ki-
*Normandy explodes*
Acid08 said:Anyone always play as a woman in BioWare games? I'm not sure why but I play as a women in all BioWare games, but as guys in other RPG's .
Edit: And they better let me carry over my Shepard like they promised. I put too much time into Jane to just let her and her amazing gear go to waste
Dizzy-4U said:Sooo awesome! I'm getting a Dead Space vibe...
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WAIT!!!...That's the freaking Normandy!!!!!
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a Master Ninja said:I'm calling it now: The game opens with the Normandy getting attacked. Wrex and Ashley/Kaiden are there, but are killed almost immediately that way Bioware doesn't have to make much content that hinges on who you let live or die in Mass Effect 1.
U K Narayan said:Looks nice. Need to see more.
I thought Mass Effect was a good game. Good - but not great.
smik said:woah uber hyped!
Mass Effect - The way RPG's should only be done, i cant stand the Japeneese tradition style especially with its overly wacky style characters and boring traditional gameplay.
Mass Effect hits a great sweet spot with story,action and great gameplay to boot.
smik said:woah uber hyped!
Mass Effect - The way RPG's should only be done, i cant stand the Japeneese tradition style especially with its overly wacky style characters and boring traditional gameplay.
Mass Effect hits a great sweet spot with story,action and great gameplay to boot.
HK-47 said:Third rate GoW mechanics and lame force powers equal great gameplay.
There is so much wrong with this statement.
This is one of the worst posts I've seen on Gaf.HK-47 said:Third rate GoW mechanics and lame force powers equal great gameplay.
There is so much wrong with this statement.
Rad Agast said:J-RPGs have their charm but W-RPG are what the big boys play.
HK-47 said:Third rate GoW mechanics and lame force powers equal great gameplay.
There is so much wrong with this statement.
Acid08 said:This is one of the worst posts I've seen on Gaf.
I don't have to prove shit to you. Nothing I say will change your mind. I love the fuck out of ME. Everything about it. Could the combat have been better? Of course. Did I still enjoy every second of it? Fuck yes.HK-47 said:Well prove me wrong! What so great about ME combat? Its got a poor man's cover system, moronic AI, a complete lack of tactical squad commands outside of use this power or take cover, and a bunch of telekinesis.
Man it is a fucking revelation. But of course it gets a free pass cause its an RPG right?
Why do you think its one of the first things they admitted they were improving in the sequel?
HK-47 said:Yeah like good combat systems. Damn wish I could see those in my WRPGs instead of crappy shooters mechanics.
HK-47 said:Have you even played WRPGs outside the 360?
Acid08 said:I don't have to prove shit to you. Nothing I say will change your mind. I love the fuck out of ME. Everything about it. Could the combat have been better? Of course. Did I still enjoy every second of it? Fuck yes.
Honestly the enemy targeting system is KOTOR is worse than any part of ME's combat.
Rad Agast said:Wait a minute... you mean to tell me there are other platforms for W-RPGs? Really?
dionysus said:The problem with modern Bioware rpgs is they are made for people who don't like rpgs. Same deal with Fable and Bethesda.
HK-47 said:Well prove me wrong! What so great about ME combat? Its got a poor man's cover system, moronic AI, a complete lack of tactical squad commands outside of use this power or take cover, and a bunch of telekinesis.
Man it is a fucking revelation. But of course it gets a free pass cause its an RPG right?
Why do you think its one of the first things they admitted they were improving in the sequel?
HK-47 said:I'm not sure D&D mechanics transfer all that well to CRPGs in the first place, but Bioware did use a simplified version in KotOR that I didnt exactly care for. Would have preferred a JK action style combat system over the all flash and not substance approach the KotORs and JE gave us.
You don't have a point. Nothing in that game is thought of as universally bad. You might have hated the UI but I honestly never had a single problem with it. And I was typing my post while you posted yours.HK-47 said:Umm I just trashed KotORs system. A crappy d20 system isnt any better than a poor TPS system.
Also if you cant counter my point about the system in ME, then dont get all flustered. Next you're going to tell me the UI was awesome...
HK-47 said:No, I assumed you knew that. Thus why I asked if you had played said games. I didnt call you stupid, so dont trying to reinforce that somewhere I did.
brain_stew said:Is PC releasing on day 1 this time?
Really? I love Fallout 3, P3, P4, Fable 2, ME, and KOTOR. I love RPG's and love all those games.dionysus said:The problem with modern Bioware rpgs is they are made for people who don't like rpgs. Same deal with Fable and Bethesda.
Acid08 said:You don't have a point. Nothing in that game is thought of as universally bad. You might have hated the UI but I honestly never had a single problem with it. And I was typing my post while you posted yours.
Acid08 said:You don't have a point. Nothing in that game is thought of as universally bad. You might have hated the UI but I honestly never had a single problem with it. And I was typing my post while you posted yours.
brain_stew said:Is PC releasing on day 1 this time?
Kyoufu said:Most likely since EA are publishing it this time.
Yeah I don't do that. I sell every single item, weapon, or armor that I or someone in my squad doesn't need.Rad Agast said:The inventory system was crap though (360 version). I think it caused most problems with people who wanted to hoard all the items.
HK-47 said:You must have a high tolerance for crap then, cause ME's UI was horrible to navigate. It wasnt Arcanum, but I want it fixed ASAP. Its unintuitive and not due to complexity.
Acid08 said:Yeah I don't do that. I sell every single item, weapon, or armor that I or someone in my squad doesn't need.
Acid08 said:Yeah I don't do that. I sell every single item, weapon, or armor that I or someone in my squad doesn't need.
Rad Agast said:Well, did Bioware ever get a good UI on consoles? I wouldn't really know since I only played ME on 360 which was a first for me. Usually I play their games on PC.
Rad Agast said:I would argue that their new games allow for greater role playing freedom than their older stuff and that's more so with Bethesda.
dionysus said:Freedom? Really? In Bioware a choice between anti-christ or saint or a 3rd option of delaying the decision one second by inserting an intermediate sarcastic comment before you again are offered the same choice between anti-christ or saint. What freedom is there in the story? Then, your choice effects nothing outside of the dialogue tree you are currently in. It is completely linear, you just get to choose which order you play the chapters. Everything plays out the same except some dialogue.
dionysus said:Anyway, "freedom" isn't really what rpgs are about, even though a subcategory of them do strive for that. An rpg is about character building, stat and probability based gameplay, and wrpgs (but not jrpgs) try to have the player effect the story in some way. So lets break that down.
dionysus said:Character building: 3 character choices and a few hybrids of those three is a huge step back from even the earliest stages of wrpgs. Moreover, the skill list in ME is an order of magnitude smaller than what has come before, and it is basically impossible to distinguish how one character build plays from another. In comparison, there are rpgs out there that truly had different gameplay depending on what build you went with: charisma boy, melee boy, magic boy, etc. Think Fallout or PS:T. Instead in ME your main gameplay mode is superfluous dialogue options that all yield the same thing and bastardized rpg/shooter mechanics.
dionysus said:No matter what your build is in ME, it plays the same.
dionysus said:Stat & probability based gameplay: The underpinnings of the system are a simplified stat & probability based combat system, but it does its best to cover that up by appearing to be a shooter. Game would have been better with shooter/twitch based gameplay or rpg gameplay, instead we got something that combines both and suffers for it. (I am aiming at X but every third shot still misses.)
dionysus said:Player effect on story: Yea, some dialogue options change and character reactions change. I get to choose who dies at some point, but the side characters have no bearing on the story anyway so it doesn't matter. Good or evil every character still walks the exact same path in the game, so where is the effect? Side quests are divorced from the game and worthless.
dionysus said:So, from my perspective ME is an enjoyable but not great game that does its best to play like a shooter and only lightly brush what makes a traditional crpg. Thus, my statement that ME's problem is that it is an rpg made for people who don't like rpgs. They took all the gameplay systems of a crpg and included them in the game, but toned them back so much it plays like an action game or shooter with a whole lot of dialogue.
Agreed. Mass Effect was the most over rated game of 07.HK-47 said:Third rate GoW mechanics and lame force powers equal great gameplay.
There is so much wrong with this statement.
I've had 3 friends tell me this. Not ba dbut over rated. Have it sitting around right now but haven't popped it in.Rez said:Agreed. Mass Effect was the most over rated game of 07.
Me too. My brother gave me for Xmas, I haven't touch it. Damn you Final year, I'm almost there.LiquidMetal14 said:I've had 3 friends tell me this. Not ba dbut over rated. Have it sitting around right now but haven't popped it in.
Mass Effect is polarizing you either think it's one of the greatest games released this generation, or you think it's simply good. Either way, you're getting at least a good game. You should really play it, the game starts off a little slow but it gets really good after that.LiquidMetal14 said:I've had 3 friends tell me this. Not ba dbut over rated. Have it sitting around right now but haven't popped it in.
Play that shit right now. Look through any ME thread and there is a lot of love for that game. Just play it, you might end up loving it like I did.LiquidMetal14 said:I've had 3 friends tell me this. Not ba dbut over rated. Have it sitting around right now but haven't popped it in.
Rad Agast said:
WTF? i grew up on RPGs on PC. I'm old school (wizardry(3d, 2 color monsters), ultimas( when cloth maps were cool), gold box games( mostly temple of games)) and I like the way wrpgs are going. I also enjoy jrpgs too. love FF and LO. I found KotoR to be the best rpg on xbox last gen, and mass effect/fallout 3 the best this gen. Fable I can give you, but the others your crazy. I even posted a hack on Wizardry 3 that makes you a super powerful on local BBS and Compuserve. RPGs are evolving and not sticking with the same-old play type. LO maybe not, but I still love it. Wrpgs are.dionysus said:The problem with modern Bioware rpgs is they are made for people who don't like rpgs. Same deal with Fable and Bethesda.