Hayvic said:If this is in fact true I can see being F2P would lure a lot of new potential steam customers for new games. But do you guys think revenues could be larger with a f2p model if we ignore the auxiliary income of new steam customers?
Einbroch said:I'll play DotA 2 if the community is either nice or douchebag trolls are punished harshly.
Can't stand the trash talk and trolling in HoN and LoL. I don't mind a little trash talk, but throwing around insults all game just makes me want to quit multiplayer games altogether.
Teknopathetic said:"China is all Garena, but I think most Western players own a copy. Not all, but most. That said, WC3 is dirt-cheap (do you even need TFT?)."
I only said a large chunk, not all. And China most definitely qualifies as a large chunk.
MNC said:Ellen McLain sounds so dreamy.
And stoned.
I guess that's just her thing though.
John sounds a bit like Hugh Laurie.
Never going to happen.Einbroch said:I'll play DotA 2 if the community is either nice or douchebag trolls are punished harshly.
Can't stand the trash talk and trolling in HoN and LoL. I don't mind a little trash talk, but throwing around insults all game just makes me want to quit multiplayer games altogether.
Einbroch said:I'll play DotA 2 if the community is either nice or douchebag trolls are punished harshly.
Can't stand the trash talk and trolling in HoN and LoL. I don't mind a little trash talk, but throwing around insults all game just makes me want to quit multiplayer games altogether.
The industry has this broken model, which is one price for everyone. Thats actually a bug, and its something that we want to solve through our philosophy of how we create entertainment products.
What you really want to do is create the optimal pricing service for each customer and see whats best for them. We need to give customers, all of them, a robust set of options regarding how they pay for their content.
An example is and this is something as an industry we should be doing better is charging customers based on how much fun they are to play with. Some people, when they join a server, a ton of people will run with them. Other people, when they join a server, will cause others to leave. We should have a way of capturing that. We should have a way of rewarding the people who are good for our community.
So, in practice, a really likable person in our community should get Dota 2 for free, because of past behaviour in Team Fortress 2. Now, a real jerk that annoys everyone, they can still play, but a game is full price and they have to pay an extra hundred dollars if they want voice.
Thats just one example. Another is how much people want to pay for items. Some people are happy paying a dollar. Theyll pay a dollar over and over and over again, others want to be different, others want to run servers and create mods.
Each one of these people should represent a different monetisation scheme for the community as a whole.
Corto said:Gabe got you covered!
http://www.develop-online.net/features/1192/Gabe-Newell-on-Valve
Even if this was used just as an hypothetic scenario it shows that Valve is concerned about that too... I trust they'll figure something out.
Artanisix said:The voice acting teaser for Storm Spirit is absolutely HILARIOUS. My friend and I were just talking how incredible it's going to be with high-quality voice acting for over 100 heroes.
Kyaw said:Can you share this with us?
Avocado said:Click the link in OP?
Pretty much, except afaik it's only one guy who joined Valve, IceFrog, who had previously been the caretaker/developer of the DotA-Allstars project.ciaossu said:If I understand this right, DotA was a Warcraft 3 mod, made for free. DotA2 is a stand alone game made by a similar crew, but now hired by Valve? Almost identical to the Team Fortress -> TF2 situation?
Now, read the OP.Kyaw said:1 hour of podcast stuff to go through... any time mark?
ciaossu said:If I understand this right, DotA was a Warcraft 3 mod, made for free. DotA2 is a stand alone game made by a similar crew, but now hired by Valve? Almost identical to the Team Fortress -> TF2 situation?
Well Icefrog still is working on the original DotA.Archie said:It's complicated. As far as I understand it goes like this (feel free to correct): Eul creates Defense of the Ancients -> Guinsoo and Pendragon take over from Eul, leave later on to work on League of Legends -> Icefrog inherits the game and works on it until he is hired by Valve to work on Dota 2. That's the very basic gist of it (I think), there is also S2 working on Heroes of Newerth and internet rumorzzzzzzzzzzzzz that Icefrog helped work on that game.
Drkirby said:Now, read the OP.
eosos said:Well Icefrog still is working on the original DotA.
Slamtastic said:Every multiplayer game ever?
kamspy said:Well, this one merges the Valve fan base with the F2P DOTA fanbase, which in my best estimation is going to be a slum.
GeekyDad said:Well timed. After almost eight years with this fucking game, I think I've finally had enough. Good time for Valve to take over and hopefully run it into complete "elo" oblivion.
Ghost Dad the Whip said:Also I think they will pretty much be following Riot's buisness plan which means free game, and a continuum of new champion/hero releases... also hats aka. skins
Ghost Dad the Whip said:I <3 Valve to death but if this game sticks to the DOTA mechanics of denial and the whole team serving one carry I will be switching back to LoL soon enough.
Can you share this with us?
Would trade Portal 2 and Dota 2 for HL3 in an instant. Valve definitely upping their productivity but the lack of new HL in my life is taking it's toll on my sanity.Spookie said:Two Valve games in one year? I feel spoiled.
Can't wait though.
Yes. Not just your sanity :lolAngry Fork said:Would trade Portal 2 and Dota 2 for HL3 in an instant. Valve definitely upping their productivity but the lack of new HL in my life is taking it's toll on my sanity.
I feel the same. I want HL3 now, you hear me Valve?!Angry Fork said:Would trade Portal 2 and Dota 2 for HL3 in an instant. Valve definitely upping their productivity but the lack of new HL in my life is taking it's toll on my sanity.
EviLore said:In my experience, eliminating all-chat from a Dota game would solve a lot of the raging/shit-talking/complaining that goes on in a match. It's almost always someone desperately trying to explain why they're pro but their teammates are noobs to the enemy team on its way to victory.
almost as stupid as last hitting.Door2Dawn said:I hope not. Denying is a stupid mechanic imo.
I'm not going to lie, I usually get more shit from teammates calling me bad than trash talkers on the other team. It's usually the bad/arrogant team mates that make the game worse, not the opponents.In my experience, eliminating all-chat from a Dota game would solve a lot of the raging/shit-talking/complaining that goes on in a match. It's almost always someone desperately trying to explain why they're pro but their teammates are noobs to the enemy team on its way to victory
Ultimoo said:I'm not going to lie, I usually get more shit from teammates calling me bad than trash talkers on the other team. It's usually the bad/arrogant team mates that make the game worse, not the opponents.
EviLore said:Absolutely. They're usually talking shit in all-chat rather than team chat though, because they want to provide an excuse to the other team for why they're losing.