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Tour de France 2016 |OT| Lead-out: EUROs / Autobus: Olympics
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30yearsofhurt
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Absolutely. He needed to carry it until he got a replacement. It's like a race car driver getting a mechanical and running to the finish line.
How would you neutralise it? Does Froome get the same time as Porte or Quintana
Joelstinton14
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What was the KM counter at when it happened?
I'm not sure whether it was down to everything that was happening, but it seemed pretty close to the finish. Froome picked up his second Sky bike at 400M. I think they were inside the 3K barrier, he couldn't have ran that far in so short a time.
His Majesty
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3 km rule is only for flat stages
Mollema?
if ASO let that stand Sky will abandon the race entirely. BMC might pull out as well.
these motos are now starting to effect the results of the races.
It cant happen. they have to take the time gaps at the point of that crash and anything after that is void.
i dont even like sky or froome. but that cant happen
these motos are now starting to effect the results of the races.
It cant happen. they have to take the time gaps at the point of that crash and anything after that is void.
i dont even like sky or froome. but that cant happen
Joelstinton14
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Ahh ok. Thanks.
30yearsofhurt
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3km rule doesn't apply on mountain finishes.
Froome says on twitter he is still in yellow.
This is bizarre.
Broken frame of Froome's bike.
Psychotext
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So Froome still in yellow... but I wonder what the times are.
What did they do on the stage where the sponsorship banner has fallen down?
Did they implement the 3km rule or did everyone get the time that they had on the spot of the banner?
30yearsofhurt
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But is he saying that because there still isn't a decision or because there is one?
I think that was the 1km banner and it was a flat finish so 3km rule applies.
Everyone got the same time... Except Yates, he gained 7 seconds.
His Majesty
Banned
1. Froome
2. Yates 47"
3. Mollema 56"
4. Quintana 1'01"
is the new result, likely differences taken at 1 km from the finish line.
2. Yates 47"
3. Mollema 56"
4. Quintana 1'01"
is the new result, likely differences taken at 1 km from the finish line.
Joelstinton14
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They took times from 3km.
I think common sense as prevailed here.
Know some people won't like it, but it was a dangerous situation. Could lead to further fan carnage, riders who took advantage or yellow wouldn;t have wanted to gain from that.
Psychotext
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Shame that the race is over so soon though. Not massively surprising really.
His Majesty
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ASO is very good at inventing new rules to cover up their incompetence.
jakonovski
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I think the rule is that you have to cross the finish with a bike.
30yearsofhurt
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So why are they giving Froome another 19s over Yates?
Joelstinton14
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I think they have taken times from a certain point.
Quintana i think was 35 secs behind yesterday, now a minute or so down.
If they took the times from when the crash happened, does it really matter? Though I'm still not sure to what the times are neutralized. Mollema is fucked either way and quintana/Froome biggest beneficiaries.
Porte and Froome got the same time as Mollema.
His Majesty
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According to Thijs Zonneveld (Dutch former cyclist and journalist) you are not allowed to cover any terrain without a bike. So Froome should have waited for a new bike before continuing.
I don't know if you actually have to be cycling or if you can carry your bike but you have to at least have your bike with you I think.
Anyway ASO has always applied its own rules very selectively with a lot of exceptions so nothing will come from it.
jakonovski
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What I've found so far:
http://www.uci.ch/mm/Document/News/Rulesandregulation/17/68/12/1-GEN-20160603-EN_English.pdf
http://www.uci.ch/mm/Document/News/Rulesandregulation/17/68/12/1-GEN-20160603-EN_English.pdf
The motor bikes have certain functions:
- Transporting people to mark dangers on the road, like roundabouts.
- Television motors, multiple ones often. A couple of days you clearly noticed they lost a couple, as they only had two 'shots' for the race.
- Journalist motors, to take pictures. They should go.
- Refreshment motors, to carry water for those that need it. That one worked overtime yesterday.
- Motors for the people that show how much time is between the groups.
- Police motors to keep the road clear.
That plainly sucks. He already got a motor assist twice this Tour, according to Lefevre. And now he is the only one to get a bonus. Should have completely neutralized the climb.
TarpitCarnivore
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There was also a neutral motor with wheels.
There's no reason some of those can't double up, or be done away with, on stages like this.
There's no reason some of those can't double up, or be done away with, on stages like this.
jakonovski
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Nuts.
TarpitCarnivore
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If youre going to have 10 motorbikes going up, have them riding on the side to make the gap bigger.
I may be over thinking this, but I can't imagine breathing conditions in something that tight is great either.
I may be over thinking this, but I can't imagine breathing conditions in something that tight is great either.
They actually try that. It is the audience bringing them closer and closer.
sorry in advance if this is the wrong place to express concerns over terrorism, but these thoughts have been running through my head especially with the government urging everybody to stay indoors.
i had noticed the armed security forces for the first time during froome's epic triathlon run and a quick google search shows france has deployed 23,000 armed troops as well as a fleet of armed helicopters patrolling the routes, a first for the tour and despite that they still can't regulate roadside fans. this instills very little faith in me that the troops will be able to thwart a terrorist attack.
the tour is just too easy of a target and this realization is absolutely terrifying and the last thing this world needs is another munich, let alone another attack of any kind anywhere. i'm sure riders and team managers have a lot to discuss moving forward. as little as i would want to see it, i wouldn't blame anyone from withdrawing.
i had noticed the armed security forces for the first time during froome's epic triathlon run and a quick google search shows france has deployed 23,000 armed troops as well as a fleet of armed helicopters patrolling the routes, a first for the tour and despite that they still can't regulate roadside fans. this instills very little faith in me that the troops will be able to thwart a terrorist attack.
the tour is just too easy of a target and this realization is absolutely terrifying and the last thing this world needs is another munich, let alone another attack of any kind anywhere. i'm sure riders and team managers have a lot to discuss moving forward. as little as i would want to see it, i wouldn't blame anyone from withdrawing.
Shanks D Zoro
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Why the fuck did they give Quintana the 7 seconds?
He was clearly dropped by Aru and Yates.
That is some bullshit.
He was clearly dropped by Aru and Yates.
That is some bullshit.
It is indeed a huge potential problem, the attack on Nice could easily have happened in Tour with an even deadlier outcome. There is at least one 'but' in there, these armed troops weren't actually trying to regulate fans. They aren't looking at people coming too close to the riders. Compared to the football championship where they had fire crackers, bengal fire, managed to get on the pitch despite even more protection there.
It's definitely a discussion worth having (Nice is just 300 kilometres from today's ITT). Unfortunately it's close to impossible to have full control with over 12 million spectators along the route - even if they take extra precautions. Their main focus is to act on any intel they might have acquired beforehand and to assist if god forbid something were to happen. They're not there to control the drunk guys in costumes running alongside the riders.
Friday's stage of the Tour de France will go ahead with extra security after Thursday's attack in Nice
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The first of two individual time trials has just started.
Friday's stage of the Tour de France will go ahead with extra security after Thursday's attack in Nice
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The first of two individual time trials has just started.
bobnowhere
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