He's afraid she's going to pull his hood off.
That's what makes the image so great, the contrast of her courage compared to his cowardice, desperate to keep that hood on and protect his identity.
He's afraid she's going to pull his hood off.
I think your downplaying it. Granted there's not going to be a war but it isn't some small group. Many of the police departments in the US house people who think this way or are sympathetic to their cause. I didn't see any tanks or what BLM protests get during the charlottesville stuff yesterday. You also have two white supremacists in the White House in Bannon and Sessions as the AG. It's not some fringe group. Millions of people voted for trumpNo need for hysterics. These Nazis are in no way a majority, or even a large minority, of citizens in America. A civil war isn't going to happen. At the veeeery worst, a small band of neo-Nazis tries to take on the cops or something, and gets steamrolled by the National Guard.
The fact that his eyes are closed on both photos is weirding me out a bit, but yeah, people who give the Nazi salute deserve every last bit of physical pain that rains down on them.This is so good.
This is so good.
This is so good.
Great post, I agree with pretty much everything you said. Hopefully this incident is the catalyst needed for the moderate Right to wake up and realize that these neo-Nazi types shouldn't even be tolerated, and instead should be publicly ostracized by their own party. Hopefully, as you said, our government does a better job of calling out these guys as the scum they are...You'll get piled on with many saying every Republican voter is a Nazi. While I do think that is hyperbole, it's still rather disappointing to see any "Western superpower" with small pockets of "civil war". To tackle that you then need to look at what holds back progress in America, and it routinely does seem to be right-wing voting and hysterics around gun control and a country in 2017 not doing more to tackle ideologies as harmful as you can get. Islamic terrorism is harmful? Well, we better do all we can! White supremacy and Nazi ideologies are harmful? Well, it's complicated. It shouldn't be complicated.
Some might be going to sleep thinking 50% of the country is literally going to be violently fighting the other 50%. That won't happen, no need to hide in your bunker just yet. The vast majority of people are not going to get violent and start killing as that is not going to achieve anything in their lives. Not to mention it just ends up with them in prison or killed in action. However, as I just said, tackling the overall issues sees a lot of circumstantial blame laid on people who keep voting in ways that allow the status quo. Find me Republicans who support gun reform. There might be a small amount, but there's not enough and America is indeed a country with a gun problem. Find me Republicans going in as much as some Democrats are about this attack. There might be a small amount, but routinely it isn't enough. America currently has a right-wing Government in charge, so you'll routinely see right-wing ways of handling situations like this and it's often not pretty.
So while you might not see a country wide civil war, you might end up seeing civilians slaughtering civilians whilst a Government in control of the country makes a mess of actually being a civilised, Western, liberal democracy. That's incredibly embarrassing and while many countries looking on are imperfect and with their own problems, sometimes some shade from those countries/civilians is indeed justified when they echo "we might have problems, but we're not that fucked up". No country is without racists, supremacists and terrorists, but others do a much better job of America with handling them.
The fact that his eyes are closed on both photos is weirding me out a bit, but yeah, people who give the Nazi salute deserve every last bit of physical pain that rains down on them.
The President of the United States and his administration have taken great pains these past two days to communicate to the Nazis that he has their back.No need for hysterics. These Nazis are in no way a majority, or even a large minority, of citizens in America. A civil war isn't going to happen. At the veeeery worst, a small band of neo-Nazis tries to take on the cops or something, and gets steamrolled by the National Guard.
So going off these shows today the only defense the GOP can come up with is to scream, "FLAMETHROWERS" about Antifa.
It's a photoshop since the original version of what that was for is...extremely racist.
See a Nazi, punch a Nazi. This should be a public service reminder everywhere.
Great post, I agree with pretty much everything you said. Hopefully this incident is the catalyst needed for the moderate Right to wake up and realize that these neo-Nazi types shouldn't even be tolerated, and instead should be publicly ostracized by their own party. Hopefully, as you said, our government does a better job of calling out these guys as the scum they are...
This is so good.
Speaking of free speech, this shows acutely how the term itself has been hijacked by the far right to protect their views and ability to sow hate. How many of the same Nazi apologists were defending the free speech of those in Ferguson?Forgive me if this point has already been made, but I never see anyone saying we need to respect the free speech rights of IS, or waxing poetic about winning the war of ideas with them. Nazis are no different, and should be treated no different.
Thank you for your contribution.Violence isn't the answer.
Violence isn't the answer.
Violence isn't the answer.
Violence isn't the answer.
Violence isn't the answer.
Shut the fuck up. Violence is the only answer this garbage understands.Violence isn't the answer.
Violence isn't the answer.
Violence isn't the answer.
Wrong.Violence isn't the answer.
Forgive me if this point has already been made, but I never see anyone saying we need to respect the free speech rights of IS, or waxing poetic about winning the war of ideas with them. Nazis are no different, and should be treated no different.
Yes, we should peacefully protest in the streets and wait for a car to run us over.
Violence isn't the answer.
You truly believe that there are something like 50 million white supremacists out there who want to make this an all white county and openly support facism and the kkk?
Violence isn't the answer.
Violence isn't the answer.
Violence isn't the answer.
Worked for the Allies in WW2Violence isn't the answer.
You're lying. No-one actually seriously said that.Reminds me of that GAFfer that said "Oh we could have beat the Nazis in WW2 by marching to Germany and giving them hugs"
Reminds me of that GAFfer that said "Oh we could have beat the Nazis in WW2 by marching to Germany and giving them hugs"
You're lying. No-one actually seriously said that.
Violence isn't the answer.
Violence won't 'solve' the issue of white supremacy and Nazism, true.Violence isn't the answer.
WW2 seemed to work in our favour.
Violence is sometimes the only way to prevent evil from spreading. If I saw a group of men beating a POC and I had the ability to inflict violence on them to make them stop, I'd do it without thinking.
Then what is?
Uh yes it is. You should fear for your safety when you throw a Nazi salute in public. The precedent must be set. Learning can come later but in the immediate they need to know that if you do this, you will be beaten, physically.
Except against Nazis, who should be met with visceral force and given no quarter in any circumstance.
In this specific case it was inevitable. I am not saying we go and beat up anyone we suspect of being a Nazi in everyday life but when they are grouping up together advocating for the death of minorities like this, then yh violence is the only option making it the only answer.
Yes it is
Yes, we should peacefully protest in the streets and wait for a car to run us over.
Wrong.
When people want to behave subhuman and support evil (yes, literally evil) ideologies, then violence is needed. You've decades worth of evidence that rhetoric alone won't stop them.
Reminds me of that GAFfer that said "Oh we could have beat the Nazis in WW2 by marching to Germany and giving them hugs"
Shut the fuck up. Violence is the only answer this garbage understands.
Violence isn't the answer.
I didn't say you should do nothing. I didn't say you should calmly protest and wait tilll you get run over. I certainly won't feel sorry if any alt-right nazi f*cker gets punched. But actively seeking out these people and physically hurt them? I'm against that. That's what the law is for. You shouldn't play judge, jury and executioner.
I didn't say you should do nothing. I didn't say you should calmly protest and wait tilll you get run over. I certainly won't feel sorry if any alt-right nazi f*cker gets punched. But actively seeking out these people and physically hurt them? I'm against that. That's what the law is for. You shouldn't play judge, jury and executioner.
I didn't say you should do nothing. I didn't say you should calmly protest and wait tilll you get run over. I certainly won't feel sorry if any alt-right nazi f*cker gets punched. But actively seeking out these people and physically hurt them? I'm against that. That's what the law is for. You shouldn't play judge, jury and executioner.
Heh, aren't you tough.
I didn't say you should do nothing. I didn't say you should calmly protest and wait tilll you get run over. I certainly won't feel sorry if any alt-right nazi f*cker gets punched. But actively seeking out these people and physically hurt them? I'm against that. That's what the law is for. You shouldn't play judge, jury and executioner.