Isn't Broadway basically an overclocked Gekko? Why drop BC if the cost savings can't come from significant silicon? Weird move, especially as the Wii and Wii U are even harder to distinguish when the Wii marketing places it horizontally. I guess they really didn't learn from the 3DS.
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Wii redesign [Pictures, No Backwards Compatibility/GameCube Controllers, Keeps Wi-fi]
- Thread starter Cosmonaut X
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Cygnus X-1 said:
That makes sense but seriously it's an ill thought out move, I'm half expecting that Other M packin now :lol
Heck it also make the brand less appealing as a result too, there's really nothing to gain from this, might as well offer Wiiparty with another game like Sega did on GC when they were packing sonic games together
oh shit. time to buy the 2nd wii i thought about for so long. i better nab a current model before this abortion replaces it and i lose BC since i don't trust my old Wii to run forever, my GC is dying, the Wii U lacks GC BC already and i want to be sure i'll be able to use my GC games in the future.
now i'll just have to decide if i pick a red NSMB bundle or a black bundle.
now i'll just have to decide if i pick a red NSMB bundle or a black bundle.
walking fiend
Member
Izayoi said:
equal opportunity, they probable didn't want those who buy this probably considerably cheaper Wii even think about if this will be any different than previous Wiis.
Nuclear Muffin
Banned
Granger Danger said:
Going by past VC releases, GCN games would be emulated in HD anyway.
Ruud_Luiten
Member
This is no redesign people, just being cost effective and to replace the old design with less features (not used by 90% of the buyers), so it can be sold at a higher margin or probably lower price.
Low price Wii for the people with less money and higher range Wii U for the new hype.
Seems logical.
Low price Wii for the people with less money and higher range Wii U for the new hype.
Seems logical.
Nuclear Muffin
Banned
Mael said:
N64 games are rendered at 4X their original resolution, why would GCN VC games be any different?
Besides, if you wanted to play them in SD, you could always just set the Wii U to 480p/480i from the menu anyway (SNES and NES VC games render in 240p if you use composite cables, so there's a precedent for this too)
You probably missed my question earlier, but... is the current SKU confirmed to be phased out when this releases?Ruud_Luiten said:
I'm asking because the Family Edition monicker seems to suggest otherwise (unless they're also releasing other cheaper SKUs with different games bundled in).
caligula13
Gold Member
this is not a redesign.
this is a remove-things-to-make-it-cheaper-thing.
this is a remove-things-to-make-it-cheaper-thing.
Cygnus X-1
Member
Yoshiya said:
This is a move solely to reduced manufacturing costs. 4 controller ports, all the wires, the lateral GC-dedicated and antisymmetrical interface and maybe some internal chips are gone.
Shortly, they removed all the non-Wii related things and this is a way to reduce costs, because everything who adds to a standard parallelepiped makes costs go up.
Consider a Lite-on DVD reader. Did you ask yourself why does it cost 10$? Everything is standard. A Player, some wires and a Polypropylene container. Period. Everything you add, even dumb stuff, makes cost go up, because it requires more parts and more time to insert them into your final product.
361 DVD cases? Now I finally see why they named the successor that way.Michan said:Wii launched at $250. PS3 launched at $599. PS3 was officially 2.5x better value than Wii?
Wii U had better be 6 DVD cases at the price of <= 2 Wiis or I'm going to skip the next generation and buy an OG Xbox (361 DVD cases, low DVD caserice ratio)
No, they didn't. My mistake, and sorry for the confusion.Shiggy said:
Cygnus X-1
Member
Mael said:
Less appealing for gamers? Sure.
Less appealing for casual crowd? No way.
Yeah: they are fu***** vultures
Ah! Didn't know that actually, I just knew that the game played and looked exactly like putting the system on and all that.Nuclear Muffin said:
Learn something new everyday.
But the 'casual' crowd doesn't give a shit about wiiparty! So it's effectively less appealing than the Wiifit and WSR bundles.Cygnus X-1 said:
Heck even nsmbw is better at this.
Raonak said:
I remember when they were better, except for the Genesis 2 which removed the headphone jack and power slider and made the sound shittier, and the top-loader NES, which removed RCA cables completely and featured shit video, and the redesigned SNES, which removed S-Video output, and the GameCube, which took out the component cable digital port, and the PSone, which took out the expansion port and disabled GameSharks, and the PS3 which removed backwards compatibility with PS2 games.
Video game companies have been doing this forever. Save money on a redesign by cutting unpopular features? Yep.
Graphics Horse
Member
Jocchan said:
It's more likely it means the bundled Wii Sports and Wii Party.
I don't think anything's confirmed as of now, but I'm not sure Gamecube controller ports would make it family-unfriendly... I'd expect this to become the standard model eventually, I don't think there's money in continuing to make two versions at this stage.
Michan said:
Sure, it's a nice gesture but I'm not going to assign more value to it than it deserves.
Nintendo is giving away stuff it can afford to give away...decades old ROM dumps.
They're doing it to save face not to attempt to reimburse me in any way.
BTW, 3DS hardware is not updated...it's the same thing just quite a bit cheaper.
And the price was dropped before there was any significant enjoyment of early adoption since there were very few AA games and even a tremendously delayed shop channel and browser.
It all stinks..hence the face-saving 'ambassador program'.
It turns out that the original Wii might have been 'designed for me to ignore' as well.
I was just too much of a starry-eyed fan at the time to notice...lol
Graphics Horse
Member
lobdale said:
Exactly, and PS2 lost iLink port I think?
JimboJones
Member
I actually thought they would have removed the GC stuff a lot sooner than this.
Guess it depends on how many iterations we're counting, it used to have Firewire on the front and they took that out eventually but they added an IR receiver so it kinda even-ed out. The PS2 had lots of revisions, many of which took stuff out (ieee1398, hard drive support) but added good things in (incorporated ethernet, more reliable DVD drive, etc).Graphics Horse said:
PS3 doesn't have a power brick. An internal power supply does the same thing as a power brick, so as for different parts of the world using different voltages, it doesn't matter. As for a reason to go internal, or at least decrease the power brick size, is that it could save space and weight in packaging and thus shipping costs. Microsoft decreased their power brick sizes with some revisions.Starwolf_UK said:
Buckethead
Banned
They need to do something to set the WiiU apart visually...
Hope it's not too late for a WiiU redesign. I just don't like the look of it :|seb said:I don't really care about the look, but I know I'm on the market for a wii without motion control to play xenoblade and DQX. If they were clever they would release a pack with a wii-cheap + classic controller only.
Quick gimp job, they all look pretty much the same:
abstract alien
Member
How would this even...ah never mind. I'm going to assume I'm missing something since its 5:15am here lolseb said: