I think it's a matter of when they begin to phase out the old units. We (or at least I don't) have no idea if this is meant to be sold alongside the current units or not, and if phasing out has already begun with retailers. So while i'm not saying I think you're wrong, it's more a matter of I think we both have valid arguments either way.Jocchan said:
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Wii redesign [Pictures, No Backwards Compatibility/GameCube Controllers, Keeps Wi-fi]
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Graphics Horse
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I can't see any difference apart from the logo, but it was always a matter of time before they got tired of making Gamecube controller ports.
Allan Holdsworth
Member
Nintendo seems to be clueless with the Wii as of late. They remove Wii Sports, add Mario Kart Wii (a game which was selling well standalone, and which increases weight/size and therefore shipping costs), and now it's Wii Sports again. Nevermind the fact that it only has 1 controller so I don't understand how a family can play, but whatever.
To Far Away Times
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You know, I wouldn't mind if every system came with two controllers and a pack in game. And not just any pack in game either, a game of 2D Sonic or Mario quality would be nice. I for one would party like it's 1992 all over again.Kilrogg said:
Electivirus
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I'd buy it if I didn't already have a Wii.
It's obviously targeted towards the casual crowd and doesn't really need backwards compatibility. I guess cutting features ensures that they still get a fair amount of profit per console sold even with a price drop.Hylian7 said:
Seems like a smart move if it really does receive a price drop.
Yep just a further revision of the hardware. Probably getting bothersome to continue sourcing the old GC ports and memory card slots and this also allows them to phase out the manufacture of controllers and memory cards for GC as well. Saving money cutting out components in the system, newer processes on the chips, plastic costs on stands/stabilizers for vertical orientation too. Smart move.
Electivirus
Member
Mael said:
I prefer the CC Pro. No Gamecube games I particularly want to play, anyways.
Well at least Wii U has a GC virtual console. Had no idea about that until now. Would be nice if we could transfer Wiiware/VC titles to the Wii U, similar to the DSi to 3DS transfer. If that was the case, i've still got a Gamecube + Component cables, so I wouldnt need my Wii anymore.
Also could this mean...other larger consoles like Sega Saturn VC? Or would that be out of the question?
EDIT: Probably wouldnt be a point to selling the Wii after the Wii U hits either, since you'd want to hold onto all your controllers for the U.
Also could this mean...other larger consoles like Sega Saturn VC? Or would that be out of the question?
EDIT: Probably wouldnt be a point to selling the Wii after the Wii U hits either, since you'd want to hold onto all your controllers for the U.
Unless you didn't meant the expanded audience, what the hell did you think the Wiisports original pack was for? the hardcore COD crowd?Ydahs said:
Electivirus said:
And you can't use them on former Wii? unless you really want to play Wiiparty, I don't see what's so much better...or even different.
Heck you can't even make it stand on its side anymore.
Nuclear Muffin
Banned
Mael said:
It comes with Wii Sports. Wii Sports needs the Nunchuck for Boxing. Every Wii console has come with a Nunchuck.
And yet you think that it won't come with one...
Granger Danger
Member
TBH, I'd prefer HD remakes like they did for PS2 games on the PS3.Nuclear Muffin said:
This is fine with me. It's been a long-time coming, and will slightly boost interest in the Wii whilst reducing costs.
So they've cut the GameCube support. It's likely that they've also switched out some of the internal hardware for more current/cheaper alternatives. The amount of energy consumed is likely smaller, and it's possible that, since the hardware remains the same size, they've reduced the size of the power brick, moving (some of) it into the system itself.
If this saves them money, tides the Wii over, and keeps the brand strong until Wii U hits shelves, then that's great. Usually Nintendo consoles die off completely in their last year.
So they've cut the GameCube support. It's likely that they've also switched out some of the internal hardware for more current/cheaper alternatives. The amount of energy consumed is likely smaller, and it's possible that, since the hardware remains the same size, they've reduced the size of the power brick, moving (some of) it into the system itself.
If this saves them money, tides the Wii over, and keeps the brand strong until Wii U hits shelves, then that's great. Usually Nintendo consoles die off completely in their last year.
Cygnus X-1
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blamite said:
Yes. That's the point.
My conjecture: We won't know for sure until people actually crack it open, but i'm willing to bet they designed new chips + board designs that would cut off the compatibility with the GC being able to run natively on it (on purpose), and then also yes, the connectors being gone. Also there's probably improved power consumption reduction.spons said:
But still, think about it: What if this saves them $10 on every Wii produced. If they sell at least 3 Million worldwide this holiday season, that's a ton of profit.
dr3upmushroom
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It's really hard to tell how it's any different.
So fucking lame they took out backwards compatibility and are selling Virtual Console GC games on U. Not to make the usual "Hur hur, two GCs taped together" joke, but there's no way it cost much at all to allow backwards compatibility, right?
So fucking lame they took out backwards compatibility and are selling Virtual Console GC games on U. Not to make the usual "Hur hur, two GCs taped together" joke, but there's no way it cost much at all to allow backwards compatibility, right?
StoppedInTracks
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There's like no difference between this and the OG Wii. And no GC BC? Shameful, Nintendo.
A Black Falcon
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Ugh, no GC controller ports or game support? Nobody who knows better should even consider getting this thing, the GC game support is great to have and GC controllers are supported by a bunch of Wii games... sure, not nearly as many as support the CC, but still, a good number support them, and there are a few that support the GC controller but not the CC, if you want a non-Wiimote option.
dragonlife
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What the heck? That's really unexpected.
Graphics Horse
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Maybe it's a bit shorter at the back? I always said they should make a square one.
They must want to get people used to the idea of not standing the console on its end...
exYle said:
They must want to get people used to the idea of not standing the console on its end...
the Wii was all inclusive, this goes against everything the Wii was for which was bringing new people as well as retaining the people already playing.sakipon said:
This is basicallt 'FU gamers'.
Considering that in pretty much all promo shots the Wii was put on its stand.Medalion said:
I'd say it looks even closer to what the Wii U looks like, it's even worse than the 3DS situation.
I stand corrected.Michan said:
iamvin22
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Reckoner said:Here is a pic of the console from http://www.eurogamer.net/gallery.php?game_id=&article_id=1389910#anchor
Was Wii Sports originally included for the expanded audience? Or because it was a well received tech demo which showed off the system's capabilities?Mael said:
It's clear that this package is being targeted more towards the casual crowd. What's there to argue?
Even more? Not really, since its design is practically unchanged.exYle said:
They called it Family Edition, so tbh I really doubt they're going to phase out current Wiis and leave it as the only option.Thoraxes said:
If they leave both SKUs on the market, they'll need a certain price difference. If they don't, then it wouldn't be really necessary.
If they can make this $120ish or less and it COMES with Skyward Sword, then I'd bite this holiday season.
Otherwise I'll just hold out until Wii U and use its backwards compat. to play Zelda.
I'm curious though will this new model make it so it's harder/impossible to play an imported game such as Xenoblade?
Otherwise I'll just hold out until Wii U and use its backwards compat. to play Zelda.
I'm curious though will this new model make it so it's harder/impossible to play an imported game such as Xenoblade?
Cygnus X-1
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Why are you people so surprised? Did you all forget when Nintendo removed entirely the digital port of the Gamecube? A move only to makes costs go down.
It is anyway clear Nintendo will have big problems in distinguish the Wii from the Wii U. And not because of the redesign. The problem existed from the very beginning. This is even not a redesign, since it looks exactly the same.
But I'm quite sure Wii U will not be the definitive name and that the design of the system will or either changed or.....not pushed at all! Probably Nintendo will mostly show the controller (also subject to changes maybe) instead of the hardware eventually.
It is anyway clear Nintendo will have big problems in distinguish the Wii from the Wii U. And not because of the redesign. The problem existed from the very beginning. This is even not a redesign, since it looks exactly the same.
But I'm quite sure Wii U will not be the definitive name and that the design of the system will or either changed or.....not pushed at all! Probably Nintendo will mostly show the controller (also subject to changes maybe) instead of the hardware eventually.