Idk if you're kidding but that was my guess. Except Alisha dies/becomes big bad while Rose replaces her. And Dezel/Zaveid is a Kratos/Zelos situation.
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Tales of Zestiria Tokyo Game Show story trailer (+pre-order Mystic Artes)
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Idk if you're kidding but that was my guess. Except Alisha dies/becomes big bad while Rose replaces her. And Dezel/Zaveid is a Kratos/Zelos situation.
If anything they seemed like brothers.
Psycho_Mantis
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Nooooo. I thought she was the second most important character after Sorey. Guess I haven't been paying attention.
Schreckstoff
Banned
They could have made just 1 betrayal and have Alvin be away for a while, not unheard of in Tales games to have to change teams every once in a while.
Somebody gave them that idea for Xillia 2 and they ran with it. =P
She's been shown less and less, especially since Rose was revealed. Poor her.
I'm getting flashbacks of the Victor and Ridou fight. Fuck that fight.
dakkumauji
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Worst part was when they revealed the cover and she was shoved into the yeah, she's basically a side character section of the cover.
Yeah, but it was a fixed amount, 100 TP for everyone, while also working with SP which demanded tactical efficiency. TP never held you back like a Team Symphonia system did. I absolutely loved ToD2 TBH.
There is a chance it may happen. Not that big, probably, but I won't say it won't happen since there is a precedent of "holding back" a character for an expanded version.
Yeah, Xillia 2 was really good at not giving you the character you needed to make the boss fights easier.
Victor would have been quite easier with Gaius (Defender) or Alvin (Charge) in the party IMO.
Yeah, do you remember when they showed the first trailer? She was there along Sorey. Quite curious about what will happen.
Is that the game that had a Director's Cut on the PSP that never released here? Or that was the original Destiny?
Well more of a updated rerelease. ToDR never made it on PSP unfortunately. ToD2 is known as one of the hardest Tales games out there since it was actually a really unforgiving battle system. It was the first foray into other systems that wasn't TP for artes usage. The SP system was a bit similar to SO3's Fury System, but more so restrictive. But it was an oddly ambitious title too with all its systems and content even. Like having Tales style status portraits and Inomata styled portraits.
After Destiny 2 I always thought Tales would eventually use some percentage based system. Still didn't happen.
There was the Destiny Remake on PS2, that one saw a Director's Cut (first a year later re-release of a console Tales game, something they keep doing since) on the same system.
Those two plus Rebirth is the glorious 2D Udo Tales trilogy.
No, Tales of Destiny 2, the first PS2 Tales game. Most selling Tales game in Japan together with the original Destiny on PS1. Had a port to PSP.
There was the Destiny Remake on PS2, that one saw a Director's Cut (first a year later re-release of a console Tales game, something they keep doing since) on the same system.
Those two plus Rebirth is the glorious 2D Udo Tales trilogy.
Victor fight can be forgiven because of the holy shit John Woo cutscene
Victor is very easy with the Might Charge skill though. And yeah, fight cutscenes and mocap were a lot better in Xillia 2, even if a bit awkward because of the models. Cutscene direction doesn't seem improved in Zestiria though.
I feel it's pretty much a given that there always will be recycled cutscenes aside nicely animated/mocapped/directed ones.
Shinji Tamura's last involvement in a Tales game was in 2010.
It's not so much a jab at Tamura as it is how Tales was willing to let large portions of the soundtrack essentially be filler even during the PS3 era.
Thanks to both of you. I've done a quick research on wikipedia and it seems neither of those 3 games made it to Europe. What a shame. The only 2D Tales I've played is Eternia and I didn't especially liked the battle system, tbh.
Going from translated interviews with Hideo Baba, the multiple betrayals thing was entirely intentional. He said something like how he wanted the player to berate Alvin for being an idiot for most of the game because he refused to realize his proper place was with the main party. Not the best execution, but considering how other Tales games have handled characters like him, I liked the change. I also just really have a thing for flawed characters who hate themselves.
One major reason that Yuri fell flat for me character-wise.
I'd ship it
But you're not alone. I'm sure you remember how I didn't even really like Tales until I sat down with Rebirth and gave it an have honest chance, and now I just love Udo games. And Schala is similar.
Chaos2Frozen
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This... Was not what I expected the theme song to be 0_0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXYZW_B5L3c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXYZW_B5L3c
It was in the TV spots a few months back
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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Maybe they will do something like kill off Slay and have Alisha take his place as main character at the halfway point. It would be pretty different and unexpected but I highly doubt they have the guts to do something like that.
Chaos2Frozen
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Yes, and that 15s CM didn't do this Justice @_@
ChasingComets
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Gotta say, this turned out to be a massively better than the 15/20-sec preview of the chorus we heard. Hugely different style from all the previous tales. And that bridge! I declared I wouldn't like this song from the outset, asides from it having the very tough act of following up a Ayumi Hamasaki song, but I think I'll have to eat my words now.
Sounds bad and I can tell nothing much will happen in the OP because it's too short.
Psycho_Mantis
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Me too. Particularly interested in the field improvements and fusing thing.
Is that the OP of the game. I don't like it.
Schreckstoff
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then they should have fed Alvin wrong info or intercepted the doves or rapidly changed their plans or kept alvin in the dark, at least something, anything. It could have worked were it not so dull executed.
I really like Alvin too, even though he's a little too haughty and he wasn't the worst part of Xillia's cast/story, that was Gaius.
How many Team Destiny game have the West got? Destiny for the PS1 and Graces f? Hearts DS was made by them but the Vita remake was made by an outsourced team which made a more Symphonia-like battle system.
Wonder if the people doing the fantranslation (which paused it when the Hearts R was announced) will continue the project in 2016 or something, when it won't hurt its sales much.
Even if he wasn't a likeable character, people would be pissed if they were forced to learn a new moveset mid game lol. I'm sure there is a lot of people out there that only play with the main character.
Wonder if the people doing the fantranslation (which paused it when the Hearts R was announced) will continue the project in 2016 or something, when it won't hurt its sales much.
Even if he wasn't a likeable character, people would be pissed if they were forced to learn a new moveset mid game lol. I'm sure there is a lot of people out there that only play with the main character.
Only Graces really. Hearts was more of a Team Hearts thing which was a mishmash Team Destiny/Symphonia, which went on to do Xillia. But after that, the teams are no more.
dakkumauji
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Can't imagine they'll do that because they'll basically making many fans hate them.
/cue disc snapping
They should pull of some cheesy Zack Fair shit where you play as the protagonist for half the game up until he/she dies to protect the deuteragonist.
Afterwards we'll see a crying scene in the rain where the protagonist is embraced by the deuteragonist only to fade away into the equivalent of the lifestream.
After crying his/her heart out, the deuteragonist inherits the protagonist's skills and former weapons.
At the end of the game we see the protagonist as an apparition and we learn that he/she became a Tenzoku. Cue postgame quest where the protagonist rejoins the party as Tenzoku.
Afterwards we'll see a crying scene in the rain where the protagonist is embraced by the deuteragonist only to fade away into the equivalent of the lifestream.
After crying his/her heart out, the deuteragonist inherits the protagonist's skills and former weapons.
At the end of the game we see the protagonist as an apparition and we learn that he/she became a Tenzoku. Cue postgame quest where the protagonist rejoins the party as Tenzoku.
SatelliteOfLove
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lol
"'Tis not prophecie, 'tis historie."
You know what the real best part is? It doesn't sound so far like his last effort: "Phantom Brave Gone Wrong"
Dark Schala
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Yeah, I don't post much in Tales threads because I generally started feeling like I was ruining a party (and other reasons). So I mostly look forward to the import threads, get the game out of the way, and move on.
The Udo games are the ones I adore. I replayed ToDR last summer and that game is pure-king.
I also hope the battle camera in this game is adjustable. It looks like butt right now.
dakkumauji
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Will this also be the start of the Zestiria Compilation.
Chaos2Frozen
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Lol what? This doesn't make sense since 1) it's just the short ver and 2) even as a short version this is the standard length for all OPs.
Dice//
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On the contrary, the fact that it isn't a "flavour of the month" J-POP tune makes me love it more.
(sorry, not to put down Hamasaki's work but I think she's done way better and I just didn't find the ToX openers my taste at all)
Great tune, the most "different" sounding song since Kokia's Follow the Nightengale for Innocence (DS).
Interesting, but I do agree the execution wasn't too hot. I actually thought his role in the story was vastly more intersting than Jude's was --- Alvin probably should have been the MC more than Jude (at least, it would have been much more interesting). : /
It depends whether they cut the beginning or not. Even if they don't, the chorus is really short so we will likely not see a lot of action animation. I'm not really interested in the slower verse parts where we see characters standing still
Edit : most of the Tales OP are well over 2 minutes.
It depends whether they cut the beginning or not. Even if they don't, the chorus is really short so we will likely not see a lot of action animation. I'm not really interested in the slower verse parts where we see characters standing still
Yup the theme feels boring as hell, the longer version is not better either.
Not really looking forward for the opening now.
this thread is moving much faster than I thought, I'm assuming the import thread will be the same?
such artistry behind this.
Dark Schala
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Depends on how many people import and how many of us have consistent time.
(I usually don't these days. :/)
(I usually don't these days. :/)
keisuke999
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OMG JUST GOT SHIPPING NOTICE!!
It depends whether they cut the beginning or not. Even if they don't, the chorus is really short so we will likely not see a lot of action animation. I'm not really interested in the slower verse parts where we see characters standing still
Edit : most of the Tales OP are well over 2 minutes.
They're like 2.15 or 2.30 IIRC.
The song is kind of interesting. It doesn't "feel" like a Tales song but it's nice to change things every once in a while.
Xillia 2 song was good. Better than Xillia original IMO. I liked Vesperia but it was a bit cheesy. Graces was too cheesy. Abyss was OK. But Xillia 2 song was remixed into this awesome boss battle theme. I like it much more than the song with vocals.
InternHertz
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OMG JUST GOT SHIPPING NOTICE!!
I hate you
Mine probably won't be shipped until tomorrow, but then again I'll have to wait 2 more weeks before it shows up at my door.
If I get it before someone else who also got the Lalabit Market Special Edition, I'll post some photos in the Import thread, showing the box and contents.
I still can't believe this made it into the final game.
Can't wait to hear Go Shiina's tracks. His work on Legendia was great.
Sakura
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OMG JUST GOT SHIPPING NOTICE!!
Waah mine shipped too. Forgot I ordered this. Though mine says it will be here Friday not tomorrow
Not that I have time to play it any way.
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