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Valkyria Chronicles Remaster |OT| One more time: You can do this. Trust in yourself!

anddo0

Member
Powered through the last 4 chapters of Uncharted about 15 minutes ago.. VC will be my main game for some time to come.

never got around to playing this on Ps3, but i like games with a good story. looking forward to playing this

Try to avoid spoilers if you can.. It's an old game, but if you're going in blind, there is plenty to spoil.
 

Danny Dudekisser

I paid good money for this Dynex!
No that hard, really, but a set of them based on total kill tally, so it might come to doing some meatgrinder stuff to get a platinum. I seem to remember that the 8th skirmish map was excellent for this on hard difficulty due to endless waves of mooks, who were then cut down by proper intercept-fire setup.



Having anything resembling a consensus before the official release date would be a rather novel thing to have, methinks.

It's been out in Japan for a while, and comparisons do exist. Dualshockers had one that suggested the PS4 version was a bit better in places. Your mileage may vary depending on how much you want to use mods. I couldn't give a shit less about mods, so... PS4 it is for me.
 

Nyoro SF

Member
How does this version compare to the PC version?

I was hoping that the thread wouldn't turn into platform wars with talking about this, but since people are probably going to ask this a lot, I might as well give a full answer.

PC and PS4 version have the exact same content + contained DLC.
PC has better graphical options (can go up to 4K).
PC has unlocked framerate (linked to the refresh rate of your monitor) but going higher than 60 causes problems, so that's a non-plus. Barely anyone noticed this because G-SYNC monitors and such are niche.
PC has model swapping (can swap gameplay models with cutscene ones for better quality).
PC has a rebalance mod "Gallian Crossfire" which fixes a lot of the issues of the base game. This IMO is a pretty big deal and a lot of fun for replays.
PC allows you to modify the game systems yourself. So if you want to make units recruitable and not reload saves forever to go chasing after your waifu Jann you can just make a few hex tweaks and presto.
PC allows you to use pretty much any controller you want, including keyboard + mouse, which I think is the best way to play the game (fast, precise aiming, VERY fast menu control).
PC version is cheaper. Base price is $20 and has gone on discount every sale. I think I've given away over 15 copies of the game.
PC version has two glitches the PS4 version doesn't have. A certain ladder in chapter 15A causes you to fall through the map. The second glitch means that tanks cannot climb steep inclines, but this only affects strategy in Report 08 by limiting one enemy tank's movement (making the mission easier). It affects chapter 13B but doesn't change the strategy for the mission.

That should be everything.
 
Try to avoid spoilers if you can.. It's an old game, but if you're going in blind, there is plenty to spoil.
well i just ordered the europa edition, which means i may have to wait another like 2 weeks to play it, so i'll just keep outta this thread until then =]

in the mean time i guess i'm gonna have to have Uc4 multiplayer to keep me busy
 

Xaero Gravity

NEXT LEVEL lame™
Best Buy shipped m6 copy early and it's out for delivery :O

I shamefully skipped this last gen, bought the PC version but never finished it. Enjoyed it so much that I had to get the PS4 version for sure. Can't wait to finally dive in.
 

Ponn

Banned
Amazon has been preparing my order for like 3 days now, but supposedly its getting to my house tomorrow? Guess we'll see how this pans out

Kinda weird thats its been preparing for the last couple days but generally if you have amazon prime and had release day shipping, or two day shipping, checked then they like to wait to the last minute and ship it late afternoon or night of the day before with next day shipping. It usually freaks people out the way they wait to the last minute.
 
I was hoping that the thread wouldn't turn into platform wars with talking about this, but since people are probably going to ask this a lot, I might as well give a full answer.

PC and PS4 version have the exact same content + contained DLC.
PC has better graphical options (can go up to 4K).
PC has unlocked framerate (linked to the refresh rate of your monitor) but going higher than 60 causes problems, so that's a non-plus. Barely anyone noticed this because G-SYNC monitors and such are niche.
PC has model swapping (can swap gameplay models with cutscene ones for better quality).
PC has a rebalance mod "Gallian Crossfire" which fixes a lot of the issues of the base game. This IMO is a pretty big deal and a lot of fun for replays.
PC allows you to modify the game systems yourself. So if you want to make units recruitable and not reload saves forever to go chasing after your waifu Jann you can just make a few hex tweaks and presto.
PC allows you to use pretty much any controller you want, including keyboard + mouse, which I think is the best way to play the game (fast, precise aiming, VERY fast menu control).
PC version is cheaper. Base price is $20 and has gone on discount every sale. I think I've given away over 15 copies of the game.
PC version has two glitches the PS4 version doesn't have. A certain ladder in chapter 15A causes you to fall through the map. The second glitch means that tanks cannot climb steep inclines, but this only affects strategy in Report 08 by limiting one enemy tank's movement (making the mission easier). It affects chapter 13B but doesn't change the strategy for the mission.

That should be everything.
so the differences are things that the PC version has that the Ps4 doesn't. which means the PC version is the definitive edition of the game.
 

Boke1879

Member
I just tried ordering from Best Buy but it will remove it from your cart saying it's sold out, and I'm not getting it from amazon because I don't have Prime and I'm not trying to pay for shipping when I could get it for cheaper from BB. I'll swing by after work tomorrow and see if they have it in store.
 
Kinda weird thats its been preparing for the last couple days but generally if you have amazon prime and had release day shipping, or two day shipping, checked then they like to wait to the last minute and ship it late afternoon or night of the day before with next day shipping. It usually freaks people out the way they wait to the last minute.

Alright cool I don't normally preorder games on amazon so I was freaking out a bit lol
 

Nyoro SF

Member
Character permadeath is very lenient in this game. It is not hard like (Classic) Fire Emblem.

After a unit is downed you have 3 (!) turns to run to their body and pick them up. Then they're safe.
If you finish a mission while a unit is downed on the ground, they're safe.
If the character that is downed is a main character in the story (Alicia, Rosie, Largo, Welkin, useless Shamrock guy) they won't permadie but you won't be able to use them for the rest of the mission and in most cases you'll lose a command point.

If the enemy touches the downed troop first then they permadie. So during your turn if someone gets knocked down in front of any enemies, you should prioritize rescuing them.
 
just for the record i am wondering: since this game is 8 years old, is this thread going to be spoiler tagged? or are spoilers fair game here?
 

Baalzebup

Member
just for the record i am wondering: since this game is 8 years old, is this thread going to be spoiler tagged? or are spoilers fair game here?

Cornbread has a mention of this in the OP. Plenty of people are picking this up for the first time, so everything should be tagged as usual.
**Important Thread Reminder**
Where this is a remaster or a previously popular game, please be careful on story spoilers and make sure you use spoiler tags appropriately. There are many new players jumping in on the game for the first time, for multiple reasons, including: new Playstation family members, pure trophy hunters (no PS3 trophies), or they may just be finally setting time aside to play through what's said to be a great game. Please be considerate and enjoy the experience everyone!
Whether or not people actually respect this remains to be seen.
 
One thing I've always wondered: Is Marina Wulfstan such an obvious Sniper Wolf reference in the Japanese version or was that done in localization?
 

Mr YuYu

Member
Is it worth it to buy this if i have the ps3 version laying here? I dont really care for the thropies but the extra dlc might interest me.
 

Kysen

Member
Damn I just bought this on PC and it's nearly finished downloading. I was under the impression that it was a good port. What kind of bugs did you experience?

Sounds would just cut out randomly, ie near the start of the mission after firing a weapon all weapon sounds from then on stopped playing. Graphical glitches when running at 60fps with extreme slowdown in certain maps. My hardware is 4770k 780GTX 8GB. Though the last time I played was January last year, dunno if any of this has been patched.
 
One thing I've always wondered: Is Marina Wulfstan such an obvious Sniper Wolf reference in the Japanese version or was that done in localization?

As far as I can tell, Metal Gear was an IP that's success hinged entirely on western sales and never really took off in Japan, so I'm going to have to assume it's the localization.

There's quite a few characters in VC1 and VC2 that got altered in localization, so Marina being so is probable.

Unfortunately for humanity, Edy/Forced Meme Character was not altered in localization. The gods of writing weep. WEEP! Seriously if you showed me Edy and gave no further context, I'd assume this was a Bethesda game.
 

Baalzebup

Member
Is it worth it to buy this if i have the ps3 version laying here? I dont really care for the thropies but the extra dlc might interest me.

The DLC involving Selvaria was interesting in few ways. You have to use the Imp mooks a bit with all the limitations that come from that. Selvaria herself is just as you might expect. Story-wise, it helps to humanize the Imperial side a bit and almost makes you feel guilty for something that you might consider just another notch on your kill tally before it.

And if you 100% it, you get to rock the Ruhm with everything that entails. That thing is hilariously broken.
 
As far as I can tell, Metal Gear was an IP that's success hinged entirely on western sales and never really took off in Japan, so I'm going to have to assume it's the localization.

There's quite a few characters in VC1 and VC2 that got altered in localization, so Marina being so is probable.

Unfortunately for humanity, Edy/Forced Meme Character was not altered in localization. The gods of writing weep. WEEP! Seriously if you showed me Edy and gave no further context, I'd assume this was a Bethesda game.

Haha! Yeah,
Edy
isn't great, but I would still take
her
over
literally everyone in VC2.
 
Currently waiting on Amazon to send me that sweet shipment confirmation email. First time diving into this game so I can not wait. Also, I appreciate SEGA for giving this game a physical release, I don't usually expect them for releases for lesser known games.
 
The DLC involving Selvaria was interesting in few ways. You have to use the Imp mooks a bit with all the limitations that come from that. Selvaria herself is just as you might expect. Story-wise, it helps to humanize the Imperial side a bit and almost makes you feel guilty for something that you might consider just another notch on your kill tally before it.

And if you 100% it, you get to rock the Ruhm with everything that entails. That thing is hilariously broken.

Yeah, the Ruhm as it plays definitely smells of being a DLC addition, being the sole weapon of its class.

Not sure if I like VC2's balancing solution to LMGs though either. Especially since even with that, VC2's DLC guns are even more broken.
 

Cornbread78

Member
Cornbread has a mention of this in the OP. Plenty of people are picking this up for the first time, so everything should be tagged as usual.

Whether or not people actually respect this remains to be seen.


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Thank you. I have since bolded the entire statement so it stands out even more.
 

Baalzebup

Member
Is there permadeath in this, and if so how does it work?

Literally mentioned on this very page:

Character permadeath is very lenient in this game. It is not hard like (Classic) Fire Emblem.

After a unit is downed you have 3 (!) turns to run to their body and pick them up. Then they're safe.
If you finish a mission while a unit is downed on the ground, they're safe.
If the character that is downed is a main character in the story (Alicia, Rosie, Largo, Welkin, useless Shamrock guy) they won't permadie but you won't be able to use them for the rest of the mission and in most cases you'll lose a command point.

If the enemy touches the downed troop first then they permadie. So during your turn if someone gets knocked down in front of any enemies, you should prioritize rescuing them.
 
Kinda wish I'd ordered from BB a while ago to get this early like most of you. (and I have a BB shipping center like 50 miles away)

but got that double Amazon discount so it isn't all bad waiting the extra couple days. ;)
 

Baalzebup

Member
I'm seeing a lot of spoiler tags flying around, so apologies for skipping around. What are command points for/what do they do?

They are units that dictate everything you actually do on the tactical map. Activating a character costs one CP, activating a tank costs two CP, ordering reinforcements to your camps costs one CP per person, using Orders, which include stuff like off-screen fire support, off-screen healing, off-screen evacuation and all kinds of buffs, costs anything between one and five (maybe more, I can't remember exactly) CP.

A single activation of a unit lets you move a certain amount, based on the class of the unit you're using, and do one Action, which include various types of attacks and support activities. One exception to this is the Engineer, who can disable any number of mines, rebuild any sandbag and refill the limited use ammo of your characters, all along as they just move forward.

This makes a huge difference to the usual turn based gameplay, as you can, and often should, use several characters multiple times instead of using everyone once. The tank in particular, can sometimes be left sitting where it starts the mission and ignored completely. There are various limitations that come with activating the same character more than once, such as their movement being limited more and more per activation, and you can run out of ammo with some weapons, but that is part of the tactical shit you need to take into consideration.
 
My PS3 copy is sitting on my shelf, I played, from 2010. It was the first game I got for the PS3 (along with Heavy Rain), but I never got to it. And then later down the road, no trophies kept me from putting it in. Now I am glad I waited! I am looking forward to finally playing this gem, and in 1080P, no less.
 
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