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Verelios

Member
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I thought it was self evident my L_P vote was a prod vote to get him in here and talking. After his response I realized that wasn't going to work very well...did I not mention that?
 

franconp

Member
Also it seems like after that exchange you didn't continue to push people over unjustified votes like squidy's on acohrs awhile back before he moved it.

Because my main concern wasn't with the vote, as I said multiple times, it was this exchanges that worries me:

Gimme an explanation on your BS vote on me first.



I have good feelings about Faddy since they're here cooperating, seems like they're puzzle solving, but this gives me pause-

Small tunnel on Bronx. Not that I'm surprised, it just seems like a very easy dog to beat, especially this early.

I will switch my vote back to you if it makes you feel better.

This is why I went hard on Faddy.

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I thought it was self evident my L_P vote was a prod vote to get him in here and talking. After his response I realized that wasn't going to work very well...did I not mention that?

But the only post he made after that was just a joke. Why you didn't tried to put more pressure to try to make him play the game and instead decided to just let it go?
 

Burbeting

Banned
Sorry, cleaning lasted until 11PM, and then I sat down and played some Horizon. So this post took way longer than intended.

Notes about past pages:

- So much fluffy shitposting. This has to be toned down, re-reading most of the pages I missed were more or less pain in the ass.
- Faddy and Verelios’ interaction based on Archie is dumb. Same with the argument between Faddy and Fran. Fram seems more towny in his responses, and Faddy is somewhat… aggressive, to say the least. That might be a play-style, but scum also get much more easily aggressive imo (even if they try to hide it). I have to agree with Kawl though, that a scum Faddy would have most likely backed down, instead of doubling down on his points (or at least his potential scum teammates would have told him to do so in a potential scum chat).
- This post from WAMD bothers me:

yep you got me

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It’s a joke post, but it’s also a surprisingly common joke scum players make.
- Something about Kyan’s posts makes me feel good about him. The short seriouskyan posts, I guess?
- Blarg feels like Town Blarg so far, not scum Blarg.
- I’m bothered with Squidyj. He just… pops in with a snarky one liner, then pops out again. Something he has done pretty consistently as scum, IMO.
- Page 14 (50pp) was basically useless shitposting central. Have to make a mental note that it can be completely skipped.

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First real “bells ringing, alert alert” moment was this one, where Splinter first mentioned some players as being sorta suspicious:

A voice of reason at last, thank you Kawl.

To answer your question:

Burb - mentioned him earlier. He only has a few posts and whats there already caught my attention once. I see he just poked his head in but meh

Swamped - all I remember from her is refusing to answer a reasonable question (from Verelios I think). Ton of people doing this today, it's all garbage and she stands out as having done nothing else.

Kalor - has he posted? He's usually out of the limelight in early game but not usually completely absent.

Maybe gryvan, hasn't said much either.


And then pretty fast, Kalor, who has been pretty much absent from the thread, responses:

I've posted twice but I've just been busy since the day started. That should change now. I've been following the game when I can but it's been really difficult to get a idea of what is going on.

Since the start of the day Faddy comes out of it looking the worst to me. They've been inconsistent and bringing the idea of multiple neutral teams is odd. It's hardly a normal occurance in games and day 1 isn't a great time to begin speculation like that.

This bothers me, because Kalor has been really inactive (even more so than me) at that point, yet he seemed to read that post relatively fast, and respond to it. Which implies that he keeps reading the thread consistently, and just not posting. Which is something scum do: Keep close tabs on the thread, yet do not really interact with it at all, in order to keep information about them to a minimum. For example about this kind of behaviour, Retroid in Love Boat mafia.

It also doesn't help that all of Kalor's posts have been very meek so far, mostly just responses to quotes, with no real original contribution to them. Typical Coasting.

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- Crab’s posts have been weak, but I can agree on his frustration. It’s not alignment indicative, though.
- I don’t know if policy lynching is a good idea, be it an inactive or a shitposter. D1 can lead to a Scum lynch, but that won’t happen if town just lazily basically rolls the RNG wheel.
- Bronx is somehow defensive over the votes on him. It’s almost poetry that he is saying Crab is being aggressive, when that’s exactly what he is doing. I have to agree with Crab that scum would most likely leave Bronx alive for as long as possible, as cover and possibly as a target for mislynch later on. Same with Blarg and Acohrs/CCS combo.

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That's annoying, not anti-town.

I'll ask again, what have I done that's actively harming town?

You (together with Blarg, CCS, Acohrs etc.) are creating a wall of literal poop posts that scum can use to coast/hide on. Creating lot of noise, for the sake of nothing. I doubt many people are going to bother to read through D1 later on the game, with how much utter nonsense there has been.

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VOTE: Kalor
 

Verelios

Member
But the only post he made after that was just a joke. Why you didn't tried to put more pressure to try to make him play the game and instead decided to just let it go?
Because I wasn't about to sit down and tunnel into L_P when I was shown how difficult that endeavor could be.

Anyway, where's Nin at? Checked in today?
 

Natiko

Banned
Kalor is an interesting pick. I hadn't really thought much of him but you make a decent point. Still would vote for acorns, but I feel a bit better about burb.
Because I wasn't about to sit down and tunnel into L_P when I was shown how difficult that endeavor could be.

Anyway, where's Nin at? Checked in today?
I do not believe so.
 

gryvan

Member
oh gawd after my break post from work like "I don't remember what page it was" ago...I finally caught up...holy shit...

So inbetween the....many pages of nonsense that i had to read through,

This is what I think:

The whole fran/faddy argument is a very "i don't know" situation to me.
-It could be just townie fighting townie
-scum employing a scum tactic to make it look like a town v town when its actually a scum v scum so that town can just let it go.

I agree with crab about the anti-town tactics that bronx, CCS, and couple others have taken. It is derailing what we should be focusing on the first 4-5 pages (EXCEPT BLARG CAUSE FUCK HIS POSTS) I mean i really understand the fact that we want discussions to keep going as well. But at the same time, we can't really get 15 min per post for certain people and the fact that theres really nothing going on at Day 1 that we can create a decent amount of conversation with.

For Bronx, he really reminds me of me when I played Gafia 2, I went crazy over fireblend on Day 1 lol....so I will take the benefit of the doubt that hes town that is trying to keep everything from being dead. However the other people who I felt were bandwagoning with Bronx on inactivity felt extremely anti-town and moving away from the current discussions.

I mean i can't complain or talk cause my post count sucks but still.
 

Swamped

Banned
First real “bells ringing, alert alert” moment was this one, where Splinter first mentioned some players as being sorta suspicious:




And then pretty fast, Kalor, who has been pretty much absent from the thread, responses:



This bothers me, because Kalor has been really inactive (even more so than me) at that point, yet he seemed to read that post relatively fast, and respond to it. Which implies that he keeps reading the thread consistently, and just not posting. Which is something scum do: Keep close tabs on the thread, yet do not really interact with it at all, in order to keep information about them to a minimum. For example about this kind of behaviour, Retroid in Love Boat mafia.

It also doesn't help that all of Kalor's posts have been very meek so far, mostly just responses to quotes, with no real original contribution to them. Typical Coasting.

You make a good point about Kalor. One thing I noticed when reading through him is that he 'noticed' something about Blarg's posts (as did Kawl apparently) but apparently it wasn't indicative of anything alignment-wise (meaning, it didn't affect his read of Blarg). This is the kind of wishy-washiness I look out for because I think it indicates scum behavior (unwillingness to 'take a stance', 'testing out the waters' etc). Then again, saying he sees something in Blarg's posts, which seems like a weird thing for scum to do. Also Why did he decide to reply to and agree with Kawl's post? Kalor is definitely someone I need to think about more.
 
I don't like the Bronx lynch. Why? Yeah he's aggressive but he doesn't seem to be exhibiting any scummy behavior, just day one bullshit.

If I had to pick someone to lynch today, it would be Faddy. I don't like the content of his arguments and I feel as though he is trying too hard to grasp at straws. Whether this is the play of a frightened scum or a mistaken townie is yet to be seen, but either way, his posts are troublesome. From his eagerness to lynch easy inactive targets to his conflict with Fran and the rest of town, something doesn't sit right with me.
 
Craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaab

Craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaab

Craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaab
 
yep, that's Crab time

What you just experienced is a glimpse of the post-Crabschaton; bleak, humid, full of birds in the sky

How far will you get cosplaying as the third half of my extreme, Crab. I wonder
 
and yes, I'm saying that I'm carrying you despite not having the seafood and implying that you're still in that tank

You get it
 

Natiko

Banned
Natiko, what do you think about how Bronx and Faddy are handling their attention

I think Bronx is fine. He doesn't seem like he's playing the same as when he was scum or SK from what I've seen. He's spending too much time defending himself but he's not overreacting and being as aggressive as I would have expected were he scum.

Faddy I'm a bit more skeptical of. He caught some flak for his claim that the initial exchange with Vere was somehow going to serve as a baseline for something. He put up some (in my opinion) weak defense for it at that point, but then just faded into the background as far as I recall. I'd throw him under null currently but it's a bit closer to scum than town.
 

Sorian

Banned
I know I was MIA a lot today but I should be good all day tomorrow. I'm at home just doing house work all day so shouldn't be an issue. The only real thing I saw since my last post was this:

It’s a joke post, but it’s also a surprisingly common joke scum players make.

A lot of this post is great and I would just take it at face value as a well done post but this point seems out of place. Like you wanted to comment and didn't have anything else to point out. She's done a whole lot of nothing this game and quoting a smart ass remark and trying to make something out of it sounds off. My real take away is Burb suddenly looks really town, great, but if he is scum, this was a weird comment to make for no reason.
 
high posts, high content > low posts, high content > low posts, low content > high posts, low content

first is great, good town play. second is fine, can even be better play if it helps control the pace. third is bad play because you get no information from that player. fourth is worst play and kills games because you get no informatio AND it creates persistent white noise drowning out information from other players too.

why do i care if X player hasn't posted much this game? in terms of actual content contribution, not posting anything puts you equal with a fair few players with tonnes of posts in this game.

my turn

People, it may behoove you to realize that high posts are not apart from high content; in fact, I submit to you that high posts ARE, high content

High posts, ARE high content

Crab is demonstrating himself to be devoted to comma's, when said player should be, quoting. What does that say about Crab what is your Role what is your Alignment who are you who are you who are you who are you

What does one gain from making such a consequential distinction? What does one lose? If I were to ask Crab, "How many Days are in a Year?" How would he reply? If I were Crab, I'd say, "You're shitting me." But I'm not Crab.

Are you?

Let us address the definition of "content". Are we, as players in an objective-based team game, not aware that each one of us has an agenda that we are each beholden to in service through our posts? If I were to approach Crab, and ask him, "What do you think you're doing?" Would he not answer me according to the dictates of his own secret mission(s)?

It is your duty as players in this objective-based team game to NOT be blinded by buzzwords. Far backstage, there are commitments that yes, unavoidably influence our performance. But, right above us, are curtains; the rise and fall of those sheets are what we all came here for. The rise and fall of those curtains is the concern lurking behind every player's eyes. When we look at each other, and deliver our lines, you MUST keep in mind that the intent that drives that delivery is, the rise and fall of those curtains. Make no mistake, every single paragraph, every single sentence, every single letter and every single word from every single player in this game thread has been and will be delivered with the intent to manipulate and/or deceive you towards the purpose of controlling the rise and fall of those curtains. When Crab, a player you may know and Host Zero himself of our fine GAFia establishment, tells you in his lines that he's frustrated, overwhelmed and jaded with the progress of the rest of us; he is saying that with the intent to manipulate your BELIEFS as per this game we are in.

Do not take shelter on the surface. Am I implicating Crab in some fashion with these statements? Yes. But we are all doing that to each other. When Bronx works in tandem with me to "shitpost" this arena up, make no mistake that there is INTENT behind that exchange. When CCS and acorns have a bit of a friendly chat and go about their business, make no mistake that there is INTENT behind that exchange. There is INTENT because these exchanges are VISIBLE. Does this game's founding tenet not hinge on the premise that we are here and meant to be smoking out the invisible? Every word in this thread is hunting you.

You can throw a tantrum in here, you can crumple into a frustrated heap in here, you can make a mess and throw out the trash in here; but, remember that this is a stage and what I see above you are curtains, and so I will always assume that you are acting for their sake, yeah?

This is the shitpost you should be keeping in mind, in here
 

Natiko

Banned
I usually spend more time on these, but I've been sick all game and haven't taken notes. I know, shame on me and all that. This will have to do for D1 as after this I'm heading to bed and tomorrow I'll be at work so it'll be mobile only at that point.

1. *Splinter [m] - Lean town. A bit all over the place, but that feels similar to DR3 so I'm not going to let it be a sticking point yet. Generally to the point and prodding, inquiring, challenging people.
2. Burbeting [m] - Lean town. Limited posts but the ones that have come had some focus. The one voting Kalor most of all.
3. Lone_Prodigy [m] - Who are you?
4. franconp [m] - Null. Some good posts and insight, but also some iffy moments with getting overly aggressive with Faddy and really pushing hard against people's votes. Null for now, doubt I would vote here.
5. Kalor [m] - Lean scum. I dunno, Burb's points are as good as any towards someone thus far. Not a strong case, but it's a case which is more than I have for most.
6. Sorian [m] - Null. Doesn't seem as focused this game as the previous ones I have had with him. Not sure that it's indicative of anything. As usual I'm not going to try and read Sorian at this stage because it seems futile.
7. Crab [crustacean] - Null. The way he came in today didn't really leave a good impression. Even if he did generate discussion he did it in an anti-town method.
8. nin1000 [m] - Who are you?
9. squidyj [m] - Lean scum. Wants to argue that shit posting is anti-town, but what of merit is there in his posts? Not much. Maybe he's just cranky, I dunno. I can only work with what I'm given.
10. Kawl_USC [m] - Lean town. Generating discussion, trying to weed through the crap. Pretty solid feelings here.
11. Swamped [f] - Lean town. Really flew under my radar initially but upon looking back her posts have been inquisitive, shared opinions, and been primarily good contributions.
13. TheWorthyEdge [m] - Who are you?
14. CCS [m] - Null. Lets see some more actual contributions. You did pretty well with this in mini maf from what I saw. More please.
15. Blargonaut [m] - Null. Not a clue here, but I appreciate that you're posting actual sentences consistently. I'll abstain until another day with hopefully more to work with.
16. Verelios [m] - Lean scum. Prods LP, gives up and moves vote to Swamped seeking insight, Swamped has far more posts of validity than Vere does yet the vote remains. Odd. For someone that has wanted opinions from others has shared surprisingly few himself.
17. Kyanrute [m] - Lean town I guess. Kyan is kyan, talk crazy yes me thinks. Fuck if I know, but in the middle of his zany posts he's putting more out there than most players in this game.
18. Faddy [m] - Null. Explained it previously, save me the trouble and just look that up.
19. WhereAreMahDragonz [f] - Lean scum. Something about your tunneling on Faddy doesn't sit right with me. Almost every post of substance from you this game has mentioned your concern about Faddy. I get that Faddy doesn't look great currently, but you seem to have blinders on. Possibly scum trying to latch onto the only "safe" thing to push against.
20. Bronx-Man [m] - Lean town. Explained it previously, save me the trouble etc.
21. acohrs [m] - Lean scum. Really feels like you're trying to play the part of town again and avoid the pitfalls you fell into as scum in Zelda by just not engaging about actual game discussion too often and when you do it's often in a joking manner.
22. OceanicAir [m] - Who are you?
23. StanleyPalmtree [m] - Null but closer to scum than town. I dunno, I think I just read Stanley as scum every game and it's always wrong. Maybe I should just accept it, but that seems like a bad move on my part. Anyways, spends the first part of the game shit posting then comes back intermittently afterwards to give brief opinions while also complaining about shit posting. Odd.
24. gryvan [m] - Who are you?

Lean Town
*Splinter
Burbeting
Kawl_USC
Swamped
Kyanrute
Bronx-Man

Null
franconp
Sorian
Crab
CCS
Blargonaut
Faddy
StanleyPalmtree

Lean Scum
Kalor
squidyj
Verelios
WhereAreMahDragonz
acohrs

Who are you?
Lone_Prodigy
nin1000
TheWorthyEdge
OceanicAir
gryvan

Fake edit: Fuck me, I ended up putting in a bunch of time to this after all. Guess I failed at slacking too.
 
WHAT REAL DISCUSSION?!

THERE ARE 5 OF US PLAYING THIS SHIT ON A REGULAR BASIS

CCS AND ACOHRS ARE DOING GOD KNOWS WHAT, THEN THERE'S BLARG AND I TRYING TO KEEP THIS THING FROM DROPPING TO PAGE 2

THE FUCK DO YOU EXPECT WHEN YOU HAVE A MAFIA GAME WHERE NO ONE IS HERE PLAYING MAFIA???????

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CCS

Banned
I'd probably post more actual contributions if people showed any desire to actually play mafia when I'm awake. It seems that for three quarters of the day it's just shitposts: the game and then turns into a proper game of mafia once I go to sleep.

I still town read Bronx though. Not entirely sure why he seems to be the go to target for a lot of people, given the pressure he's had has been pretty intense and he has reacted to it in a particularly scummy way.

There was a post earlier, can't remember who by, who pointed out Kalor's reaction time was very quick for someone who's been so inactive. Not going to push for a lynch just on that necessarily, but worth bearing in mind.

I feel like with the number of... aggressive players we've got there's probably one scum among them, but no idea who. That's based more off probability than anything.
 

Sorian

Banned
oh the iron knee

2 points, first Burb plays the game much differently than I do. Him doing something that is more attributive to me is worth pointing out.

Second, you are still pretending that I cared about people's smart ass comments, so far all I've poked at is votes and extreme changes or omissions from reads lists.

Go slink back away until your next shit post opportunity, thanks.
 

Sorian

Banned
Sorian, why don't we talk anymore

We used to chat shit together

Post with me, Sorian

I've judged you worthy so far which means you are undeserving of my time. But don't worry, your recent posting made me raise an eyebrow.

But I'm just waiting.
 

Bronx-Man

Banned
2 points, first Burb plays the game much differently than I do. Him doing something that is more attributive to me is worth pointing out.

Second, you are still pretending that I cared about people's smart ass comments, so far all I've poked at is votes and extreme changes or omissions from reads lists.

Go slink back away until your next shit post opportunity, thanks.

nah
 
DAY 1 CURRENT VOTE TALLY:

acohrs (3)
Blargonaut 342 383
Sorian 453
squidyj 546 817
Swamped 841
*Splinter 872

Bronx-Man (2)
Blargonaut 212 217
Blargonaut 217 342
TheWorthyEdge 221
Blargonaut 383 392
Faddy 455 620
Blargonaut 568 573
Blargonaut 634 641
Blargonaut 649 658
Blargonaut 668 671
Kyanrute 669 674
Blargonaut 709 781
Crab 855

Lone_Prodigy (2)
Verelios 71 396
Natiko 518
CCS 828 858
Faddy 831

Crab (2)
Swamped 159 841
Natiko 505 518
Blargonaut 781 783
squidyj 817
CCS 858

gryvan (1)
Kyanrute 674

Kalor (1)
Burbeting 953

Swamped (1)
Sorian 62 135
Verelios 396

Burbeting (1)
Kalor 96

Faddy (1)
Bronx-Man 492
Blargonaut 641 649

franconp (0): Faddy 620 831

Kawl_USC (0): CCS 65 328

squidyj (0): *Splinter 388 581, *Splinter 581 872

OceanicAir (0): Natiko 152 505

*Splinter (0): CCS 605 828

Kyanrute (0): squidyj 99 546

nin1000 (0): Burbeting 378 432

WhereAreMahDragonz (0): Burbeting 72 301, Blargonaut 573 634

Blargonaut (0): gryvan 158 425, Bronx-Man 215 416

Verelios (0): Faddy 90 455, Sorian 135 453

No active vote for Day 1: acohrs (has previously voted), Blargonaut (has previously voted), franconp, gryvan (has previously voted), Kawl_USC, Lone_Prodigy, nin1000, OceanicAir, StanleyPalmtree, WhereAreMahDragonz


Day 1 ends:
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Automated vote tally here

13 votes for majority
 

acohrs

Member
high posts, high content > low posts, high content > low posts, low content > high posts, low content

first is great, good town play. second is fine, can even be better play if it helps control the pace. third is bad play because you get no information from that player. fourth is worst play and kills games because you get no informatio AND it creates persistent white noise drowning out information from other players too.

why do i care if X player hasn't posted much this game? in terms of actual content contribution, not posting anything puts you equal with a fair few players with tonnes of posts in this game.

That's bollocks man, in a game where posting anything at all in public view is available to be interpreted, examined, and discussed, not posting at all is akin to picking up the football and refusing to play. You are basically acting as follows, you've picked up the football and said I won't play until everyone plays the way I want them to play (for the yanks soccer ball).

Going back on my Faddy read. Realised it was hypocritical of me to think that bronx was town and then accuse Faddy on similar logic. Faddy is putting himself out there and taking flak on D1 when some times making the wrong joke has gotten others lynched, pretty brave to do so.

I think scum are coasting right now, there's some easy lynch targets right now for town, and so, scum doesn't need to influence the discussion. That's why looking at inactives is so important. Amongst the inactive group, I will include anyone that has come in and said wow so much shitposts, going away until good posts. That's just a smokescreen.
 
okay. so.
mafia game.
lets do.
this.

so that thing karl mentioned earlier, the thing that he has noticed about blarg, im pretty sure iv noticed the same thing. i mean i think i have, but i have no way fo knowing if its the same thing or somthing completely different. point is i noticed it, and honestly i cant think of it really mattering. point is. noticed.

burb chimed in making good points, i like this, i was starting to get bad feelings, but i think they turned around.

bronx is playing terribly. pretty sure he is town.

faddy is still probably the biggest scum lean anyone could have with actual reasoning, which is exactly why i dont think i will be pushing for his lynch, which is why its going to sound weird that i dont think ill be pushing for his lynch today, its the easiest lynch to go for, it would be very easy for anyone, both scummies or townies, and i would perfer the end day shenanigans to be a tad more chaotic.

would be totes behind voting out either of the chuckle-ducks (you know damn well who i mean). dont have a preference really.

sO those inactives sure are being inactive, we should probably do something about that.
 

Kalor

Member
Catching up I see that my response time was seen as unusual. That was just a matter of checking the thread at the right time. I might not have posted a lot but I've tried to keep up at the very least.
 

CCS

Banned
I'm just going to say it, I really don't understand the hate for the interactions between me and acohrs this game. So far we have one joke town read of him by me at the start, and one short exchange about rugby in posts that also had game discussion so they weren't just 100% shitposts. Frankly, it reads like either:

-People seeing us talking to each other and assuming that we must just be shitposting the whole time
-People who are bandwagoning onto a popular hate train, or
-People who decided pregame they don't like us

Call us out on our contribution as individuals by all means, but anyone calling us out for our interactions as a pair seem suspicious to me.
 

acohrs

Member
I'm just going to say it, I really don't understand the hate for the interactions between me and acohrs this game. So far we have one joke town read of him by me at the start, and one short exchange about rugby in posts that also had game discussion so they weren't just 100% shitposts. Frankly, it reads like either:

-People seeing us talking to each other and assuming that we must just be shitposting the whole time
-People who are bandwagoning onto a popular hate train, or
-People who decided pregame they don't like us

Call us out on our contribution as individuals by all means, but anyone calling us out for our interactions as a pair seem suspicious to me.

They're jealous of how our friendship survives even on the battlefield.
 

CCS

Banned
I'm not going to go through the whole player list and post reads, because frankly I don't have reads on everyone and trying to fill out a post for the sake of it doesn't help anyone, but here are my thought on players I do have am opinion on:

Crab - Main contribution so far is to complaint about state of the game. Don't really read him either way off that, but will revisit if the game improves to see if he does actually step up contribution levels.

Splinter - Similar to Crab in expressing distaste for state of the game, aggressive enough that he's either very bold scum or town that's aggressive to the verge of being anti-town.

Faddy - Honestly not convinced at all that he'd scum, but would not be entirely opposed to a lynch as he seems to be one of the more discussed players.

Bronx - Faddy on steroids. Actually one of my stronger town reads based off how he's reacted to pressure, but that doesn't appear to be a common view and even a town flip would be very useful.

Acohrs - Null so far, thought I'd comment since we keep getting talked about as a pair. Seems slightly different to past games but that could just be improvement (plus I don't think he's ever been town?)

Fran/Sorian - Combining these two on the basis that they've both posted quite a bit and been very involved, but I don't have a read on them. Nulls.

Verelios - Feels like town, but that's mostly a gut read rather than anything else.

Blargonaut - Blargonaut.

No scum reads in there, I really don't have a scum read at the moment. Would advocate lynching either one of the most debated players or a coaster unless I can certainly up with a scum read today.
 

CCS

Banned
I wish morning here wasn't such a quiet time. Probably not going to have much opportunity for more than following the thread and one liners before day end now.
 

*Splinter

Member
Notes about past pages:
I (mostly) like this post. One problem I still have is the timing - Burb was absent while the shitposting dominated the thread, and only comes in after things have settled down. My concern is that he was happy to let the shitposting happen and is simply acting frustrated now that it's all in the past. Of course he claims to have been busy in this time, so I'll give him some benefit of the doubt, and there are other fair points in this post (e.g. Kalor, Crab).

oh gawd after my break post from work like "I don't remember what page it was" ago...I finally caught up...holy shit...

So inbetween the....many pages of nonsense that i had to read through,

This is what I think:

The whole fran/faddy argument is a very "i don't know" situation to me.
-It could be just townie fighting townie
-scum employing a scum tactic to make it look like a town v town when its actually a scum v scum so that town can just let it go.

I agree with crab about the anti-town tactics that bronx, CCS, and couple others have taken. It is derailing what we should be focusing on the first 4-5 pages (EXCEPT BLARG CAUSE FUCK HIS POSTS) I mean i really understand the fact that we want discussions to keep going as well. But at the same time, we can't really get 15 min per post for certain people and the fact that theres really nothing going on at Day 1 that we can create a decent amount of conversation with.

For Bronx, he really reminds me of me when I played Gafia 2, I went crazy over fireblend on Day 1 lol....so I will take the benefit of the doubt that hes town that is trying to keep everything from being dead. However the other people who I felt were bandwagoning with Bronx on inactivity felt extremely anti-town and moving away from the current discussions.

I mean i can't complain or talk cause my post count sucks but still.
This is another poster I could accuse of the same thing, and I like this post a lot less than Burb's. The Fran/Faddy "situation" has been the only consistent argument throughout this day phase, and gryvan's analysis of it is "lol I dunno". He's either not interested in figuring this game out or exceptionally lazy.

He also has that "fuck Blarg's posts" comment, but I've not forgotten it was gryvan himself who first attempted to summon Blarg to the thread. I pointed out at the time that doing so is asking for shitposts, and now that Blarg has made said shitposts gryvan is complaining about them? Right.

I haven't played with gryvan much but I expected a lot more than he's given us this game.
 

*Splinter

Member
I'm just going to say it, I really don't understand the hate for the interactions between me and acohrs this game. So far we have one joke town read of him by me at the start, and one short exchange about rugby in posts that also had game discussion so they weren't just 100% shitposts. Frankly, it reads like either:

-People seeing us talking to each other and assuming that we must just be shitposting the whole time
-People who are bandwagoning onto a popular hate train, or
-People who decided pregame they don't like us

Call us out on our contribution as individuals by all means, but anyone calling us out for our interactions as a pair seem suspicious to me.
I don't think it's the interactions specifically, at least not for me. You both have a lot of pointless posts in the thread, I don't see you as particularly linked. You have done your side conversation thing in multiple games now so I assume it doesn't indicate anything.
 

CCS

Banned
I don't think it's the interactions specifically, at least not for me. You both have a lot of pointless posts in the thread, I don't see you as particularly linked. You have done your side conversation thing in multiple games now so I assume it doesn't indicate anything.

Eh, maybe I guess.

A big part of the problem is this is the time of day I have by far the most time to dedicate to playing, but there's normally no one to talk to. I simply don't have time for more than very short, generally low content posts for the 12 hours from now most days.
 

L I V E

ON THE TELLY

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INTRODUCING:

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[LYRICS]
SCUM LAUDE!
Making ends meet on my mind
Inside I think about Today
Thinking all about the time
When all 'bout me's are all you said

And I'm here pondering, wondering, thinking a bout
With you is gonna make you claim
I'm here wondering, blundering
About in the dark where we are what's the game

(CHORUS)
I should've went to school for this but
You know how it is when one of us has to pay
I should've went to school for this yet
Some of us BELIEVE out there we'll find a way
I should've went to school for this and
Finished up that reading and earned that scum laude (scum laude)

Faking it is a hell of a grind
Inside where it's warmer, so they say
Putting on a hell of a sign
Telling us to go, and where to stay

And I'm here pounding, floundering
A flip or a flop for lives are what's at stake
I'm here numb, they're sundering
What we all took so very long to make

(CHORUS)
I should've went to school for this but
You know how it is when one of us has to pay
I should've went to school for this yet
Some of us BELIEVE out there we'll find a way
I should've went to school for this and
Finished up that reading and earned that scum laude (scum laude)

Who says what they really BELIEVE
In the presence of Power play
Who says what they really need
When the presents sate their wallet

(CHORUS)
I should've went to school for this but
You know how it is when one of us has to pay
I should've went to school for this yet
Some of us BELIEVE out there we'll find a way
I should've went to school for this and
Finished up that reading and earned that scum laude (scum laude)

Should've earned that scum laude (scum laude) (x2)​

































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*Splinter

Member
Splinter - Similar to Crab in expressing distaste for state of the game, aggressive enough that he's either very bold scum or town that's aggressive to the verge of being anti-town.
What do you mean by this? Is something about my questioning aggressive? Why do you feel that's anti town?

Or are you just referring to my "fuck squidy" comment?
 

CCS

Banned
What do you mean by this? Is something about my questioning aggressive? Why do you feel that's anti town?

Or are you just referring to my "fuck squidy" comment?

I think that might be biasing me looking back, I was leaning towards reading your questioning as unnecessarily aggressive but that is probably in part a result of that.
 

*Splinter

Member
Eh, maybe I guess.

A big part of the problem is this is the time of day I have by far the most time to dedicate to playing, but there's normally no one to talk to. I simply don't have time for more than very short, generally low content posts for the 12 hours from now most days.
Benefit of the forum format is you can respond to posts from the previous night, and leave questions for people who aren't currently present.

I can appreciate that might not perfectly fit your playstyle, but there are better options available than hiding behind the timezone excuse.
 
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