sales are below expectations
Maybe. Who is that?Worth taking note of in one's predictions?
Maybe. Who is that?
I think jvm's estimates for PSP have been sub-30K monthly or even much lower. Not that we'd find out either way, but Vita would probably sell more than a probably virtually absent PSP.
Any particular reason?I have a feeling the PS3 could creep over a million, but not positive.
This month is a bit of a crapshoot. Especially with the Wii U.Pretty sure this month will sink me. Oh well.
Yeah, I was looking at previous years and the PS3 was over a million in 2009. In that year its Jan - Oct sales were over 2 million and then 700K in Nov. Then it hit well over a million in December (1.36mm). In terms of just those two data points (Jan - Oct and then Nov) this year is kind of similar.Any particular reason?
This month is a bit of a crapshoot. Especially with the Wii U.
according to Wedbush Securities analyst Michael Pachter, the results will be quite disappointing yet again, rounding out a tough year for retail in 2012. Pachter's NPD preview note forecasts a decline of 11 percent in console software sales "due to continuing gamer fatigue and sustained Nintendo weakness."
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articl...o-11-percent-decline-in-december-retail-salesPachter said evidence of fatigue was demonstrated by Call of Duty: Black Ops II's nearly 20 percent year-over-year sales dip and Halo 4 failing to meet "lofty expectations." He also handed out a good deal of blame to Nintendo for its "underwhelming launch" for Wii U and "continued weakness" in general for the company. Pachter is predicting that 675,000 Wii U units were sold at US retail in its second month (up 59 percent month-over-month) with a "very low" software attach rate (close to one title per hardware unit).
how can almost 700k in December for a brand new console launched in October be bad? O__O
"O__O" indeed.
Can I still change some things? Or has the time limit passed?
Oh sweet, forgot about that counter. ThanksCheck the OP... you have ~5.5 hours left.
I really wrote October? Why I wrote October instead of November? whyyyyyyyyyy :lol
I thought it was pretty clear that they didn't have all their ducks in a row, especially with respect to network functionality. I don't know what 3rd party software quality would have been like with a month less to launch in.Why did Nintendo launch in November? Why!?! Oct. 30 with AC3 and in time to have same day launch for BOpsII made so much more sense.Launching in September made even more sense to me.
Well...What's Pachter's track record with these predictions been lately? I remember times when it was right on so he probably has a hint of what they'll be beforehand. 600k+ would be a big boost for the system.
NeoGAF Prediction Results - November 2012
Units
1. Hammer24
2. doicare
3. confuziz
4. andy_lhc
5. jvm
6. pitseleh
7. GAF_Agg
8. Bruno MB
9. donny2112
10. shinra-bansho
11. allan-bh
12. Elios83
13. rayner
14. Dynopia
15. Jonsoncao
16. Road
17. ohlawd
18. ItWasMeantToBe19
19. Zero-Crescent
20. KillerMan91
21. opticalmace
22. Goldmund
23. Nemo
24. archnemesis
25. NateDrake
26. Hiro_Kunimi_80
27. noobie
28. Brakara
29. michaelius
30. TyRaNtM
31. rostocker
32. skedar897
33. TurkishEmperor
34. Pachter
35. JDSN
36. Randolph Freelander
37. Strike
38. Claymores
39. CronoShot
40. CrankyKong
41. uchihasasuke
42. MasterSheen
43. Hcoregamer00
44. antonz
45. jamesinclair
46. Rarity
47. NemesisPrime
48. alphaNoid
49. BlackJace
50. nickcv
51. Megadragon15
52. Colonel Mustard
53. Thoraxes
54. Jesse2040
55. Gianni Merryman
56. Drago
57. Smiles and Cries
58. Kenka
59. iamvin22
Worst analyst in the industry ever who has no f'king clue. If he predicts something, expect the opposite to happen.What's Pachter's track record with these predictions been lately? I remember times when it was right on so he probably has a hint of what they'll be beforehand. 600k+ would be a big boost for the system.
Well...
Interesting even it doesn't tell us anything about what the real numbers will be, but there also is an analyst from EEDAR predicting 600K for the Wii U > http://www.computerandvideogames.com/385270/wii-u-sales-hit-600k-in-december-in-the-us-analysts/?What's Pachter's track record with these predictions been lately? I remember times when it was right on so he probably has a hint of what they'll be beforehand. 600k+ would be a big boost for the system.
Wedbush / EEDAR December 2012 hardware sales estimates (change year-on-year):
360 - 1,700,000 (-2%) / 1,550,000 (-11%)
3DS - 1,140,000 (-29%) / 1,350,000 (-16%)
PS3 - 900,000 (-5%) / 950,000 (0%)
Wii U - 675,000 (n/a) / 600,000 (n/a)
DS - 600,000 (-7%) / 400,000 (-38%)
Wii - 500,000 (-53%) / 550,000 (-48%)
Vita - 300,000 (n/a) / 300,000 (n/a)
PSP - 20,000 (-92%) / 30,000 (-88%)
PS2 - 500 (-98%) / (n/a)
Total - 5,835,500 (-7%) / 5,730,000 (-9%)
It's a rough market out there right now. For the year he's doing better than that one month would suggest.Middle of the pack then, I was expecting better.
It's a rough market out there right now. For the year he's doing better than that one month would suggest.
Middle of the pack then, I was expecting better.
It's a rough market out there right now. For the year he's doing better than that one month would suggest.
Yeah, Pacther has been making actual crazy predictions this year.
He has a better record than most, though:
3rd in 2011
5th in 2010
4th in 2009
It would be interesting to see if Pacther has been mostly wrong for overestimating the industry this year.
[360] 1850k
[3DS] 1050k
[PS3] 1000k
[PSV] 310k
[WII] 630k
[WIU] 660k