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[Feorax]

Despite the fact that I've never stuck with a Gears game after the initial playthrough, im looking forward to this. I really hope they have a strong online presence out of the gate this time though.

 

[Domino Theory]

4 player co-op in Gears 3? Fuckin' awesome.

So goood.

 

[twinturbo2]

Thanks.

 

[KittyKittyBangBang]

I know the Gears series gets a lot of shit for the craptacular story and ridiculous one-liners, but Gears games are so goddamn fun, looking forward to this.

 

[derFeef]

I know the Gears series gets a lot of shit for the craptacular story and ridiculous one-liners, but Gears games are so goddamn fun, looking forward to this.

Not to mention that Gears re-breathed new life into 3rd person shooters and perfected the cover system. Still not matched.

 

[RSTEIN]

Not to mention that Gears re-breathed new life into 3rd person shooters and perfected the cover system. Still not matched.

I don't think the core shooting mechanic has been matched. Better than any 3rd person shooter. Feels so solid.

 

[Stat Flow]

Cliff confirmed in the MeriStation TV interview that Gears of War 3 will include some old Gears of War 1 favorites that we didn't see in Gears of War 2 (Maps)

There will be a new feature that allows players to stay together as a party.

In the MeriStation TV interview, Cliff confirms you can kick someone as your vault over cover.

Seriously though, fuck matchmaking, the way finding matches worked in gears 1 was great, especially with the party dashboard function.

And apparently someone talked to Rod and he confirmed that there will be "3 way battles" and "multiple female soldiers".

I don't want to hype this but I can't help it.

 

[2 Minutes Turkish]

4 player co-op?

Fucking...megaton.

Been wanting that since I played 1 for the first time. That is fucking awesome in Gears. Fucking awesome.

 

[ShutDown202]

The above three posts are 100% truth.

I really cant wait for this game. Once again, Gears series will show, everyone else will copy.

 

[Domino Theory]

Seriously though, fuck matchmaking, the way finding matches worked in gears 1 was great, especially with the party dashboard function.

And apparently someone talked to Rod and he confirmed that there will be "3 way battles" and "multiple female soldiers".

I don't want to hype this but I can't help it.

That same interview confirmed the Pendulum Lancer and sawed-off Double-Barrel Shotgun and Cliff says they're going to "embrace the shotgun" for Gears 3 and allow more arcadey play.

I'm loving everything I'm hearing about Gears 3 right now. April 2011 yet?

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

Not to mention that Gears re-breathed new life into 3rd person shooters and perfected the cover system. Still not matched.

I actually like Uncharted and Gears about the same as far as the cover system goes. I feel they both offer really well implemented but different experiences. Uncharted is a little more robust and I feel like I have more control but I love the feeling of slamming this big ass dude that looks like a damn gorilla into the side of a car or broken wall and just popping heads all over.

 

[derFeef]

I don't think the core shooting mechanic has been matched. Better than any 3rd person shooter. Feels so solid.

This too. Weight, aiming, reloading, switching, firing. Everything feels solid and how you expect it.

 

[Sanic]

I'm loving everything I'm hearing about Gears 3 right now. April 2011 yet?

You still have AN ENTIRE YEAR!

Spoiler

does that make the waiting any easier for you?

 

[Veelk]

Not to mention that Gears re-breathed new life into 3rd person shooters and perfected the cover system. Still not matched.

I dunno. It was definitely king for a while, but I think Uncharted 2 beat it out. It doesn't have the powerful feel that Gears does(The way you slam into cover, the guns, etc), but it's so much more versatile. Besides moving much faster and arguably having a better melee system, that you can climb structures to give yourself a vertical advantage really advances the game. Maybe Uncharted and Gears are simply different and shouldn't be compared, but I feel that Uncharted 2 actually evolved Third person shooter MP with climbable structures and Gears similarly has to innovate a new mechanic or else it will be seen as dated.

 

[h3ro]

There aren't many moments more satisfying this gen than clearing a hard ass room in Gears on Insane and hearing that Gears Gong go off.

 

[Domino Theory]

So, Karen Traviss is writing Gears of War 3's story: http://www.karentraviss.com/

 

[Talon]

I actually like Uncharted and Gears about the same as far as the cover system goes. I feel they both offer really well implemented but different experiences. Uncharted is a little more robust and I feel like I have more control but I love the feeling of slamming this big ass dude that looks like a damn gorilla into the side of a car or broken wall and just popping heads all over.

The only difference for me is that Gears is a slower game in terms of movement, so I don't find myself accidentally popping out of cover as often. Even still, third-person shooters still suffer from a certain degree of jankiness because of the whole sticking to cover thing.

I play Gears exclusively for the co-op campaign, so I'm looking forward to this one. Gears 2 was a big improvement over the first, especially in regards to showing the scale of conflict (the one thing Halo could learn from Gears).

I still can't help but dread my groaning at the patented Epic dialogue.

Maybe Uncharted and Gears are simply different and shouldn't be compared, but I feel that Uncharted 2 actually evolved Third person shooter MP with climbable structures and Gears similarly has to innovate a new mechanic or else it will be seen as dated.

You should listen to your gut. Uncharted is a TPS with platforming. Gears is a TPS with chainsaws.

 

[JimtotheHum]

That same interview confirmed the Pendulum Lancer and sawed-off Double-Barrel Shotgun and Cliff says they're going to "embrace the shotgun" for Gears 3 and allow more arcadey play.

I'm loving everything I'm hearing about Gears 3 right now. April 2011 yet?

Embrace the shotgun and "arcadey"- what does that mean exactly?

That gears multiplayer is gonna forego the tactical nature that was somewhat present in previous versions for a shotgun frag fest?

if so- do not want.

 

[BlueScrote]

Embrace the shotgun and "arcadey"- what does that mean exactly?

That gears multiplayer is gonna forego the tactical nature that was somewhat present in previous versions for a shotgun frag fest?

if so- do not want.

Gears multiplayer already felt like a shotgun fest because of the terrible netcode.

 

[Scarecrow]

I hope for some epic tragedy stuff at the end. Like, the whole squad being all thats left of humanity being finally overwhelmed somewhat like in the trailer. That's what I wanted out of ODST.

 

[GarthVaderUK]

This too. Weight, aiming, reloading, switching, firing. Everything feels solid and how you expect it.

Yup. Love the active-reload feature.

 

[2 Minutes Turkish]

So thanks to Gears 3, as opposed to year of the 360 being 2010, we now have 12 months of the 360?

April 10 to April 11?

 

[Karram]

I'm hoping there will be more interview tonight.

 

[derFeef]

I hope for some epic tragedy stuff at the end. Like, the whole squad being all thats left of humanity being finally overwhelmed somewhat like in the trailer. That's what I wanted out of ODST.

Would be difficult, Halo 3 and ODST were somewhat collateral.

 

[Stat Flow]

Getting back into Gears hype mode (For one whole year)

I'll be bookmarking This Thread. And checking the last pages every day.

 

[JimtotheHum]

Gears multiplayer already felt like a shotgun fest because of the terrible netcode.

agreed. And that's why I was dissapointed in previous gears multiplayer, you could tell the type of multiplayer game they were going for, but could never quite hit it because of terrible netcode and a multitude of glitches.

This quote could almost be taken as they have waived the white flag and given up on that style of gameplay altogether. If that's the case gears pretty much becomes just like every other multiplayer game there. Everyone running around two-piecing and endless shotgun battles. Might as well remove the cover system from the multiplayer.

I may be looking into this quote too much, but its a definite red flag.

 

[J2d]

Maybe Uncharted and Gears are simply different and shouldn't be compared, but I feel that Uncharted 2 actually evolved Third person shooter MP with climbable structures and Gears similarly has to innovate a new mechanic or else it will be seen as dated.

No god please no, no new mechanics. I just want a solid network this time and the intense 1on1 battles that Gears 1 offered, all without the grenade bullshit etc.

I'm not sure on these two things but I was under the impression that Uncharted 2 online wasn't so much of a hit, and you can still shoot trough walls pretty much right?

 

[VGChampion]

I haven't read through the thread yet but does anyone else enjoy the games just for the SP / co-op? That's all my friends and I really do now. We used to play some Gears 1 multiplayer but since we couldn't have guests in Gears 2 we just sort of gave up on MP after that. I've had G2 almost since launch and have not touched an online mode yet. :lol

Really looking forward to the campaign though. Gears doesn't have the best story but it's a fun story to go through that's interesting enough for me not to get bored. And 4 player co-op is the icing on the cake. Sadly probably only have 3 people on hand regularly though.

 

[Kibbles]

Nice, 4p co-op campaign. This better mean online splitscreen (2p + 2p) since the series has accommodated that in multiplayer all this time.

2 player splitscreen is taxing enough. Halo 3 can't even do 4 player split screen co-op. I'd assume it's 2 player splitscreen, 4 player over system link/xbox live.

 

[Nirolak]

Congratulations Cliffy, Gears is now considered to be a Top 3 World News story by Google. :lol

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

No god please no, no new mechanics. I just want a solid network this time and the intense 1on1 battles that Gears 1 offered, all without the grenade bullshit etc.

I'm not sure on these two things but I was under the impression that Uncharted 2 online wasn't so much of a hit, and you can still shoot trough walls pretty much right?

Yeah I completely agree. I just want Gears 3 with Gears 1 netcode and Ill be in heaven. Though I love Uncharted mechanics for the SP campaign I never really got into the feel of the multiplayer.

 

[derFeef]

I haven't read through the thread yet but does anyone else enjoy the games just for the SP / co-op? That's all my friends and I really do now. We used to play some Gears 1 multiplayer but since we couldn't have guests in Gears 2 we just sort of gave up on MP after that. I've had G2 almost since launch and have not touched an online mode yet. :lol

Really looking forward to the campaign though. Gears doesn't have the best story but it's a fun story to go through that's interesting enough for me not to get bored. And 4 player co-op is the icing on the cake. Sadly probably only have 3 people on hand regularly though.

I played campaigns only. Mastered Gears 1 on Hardcore but gave up on it at G2 (that graveyard was just.. ugh), switched back to normal and enjoyed the way through the remaining game. Got no one to co-op with.

 

[Karram]

Yeah I completely agree. I just want Gears 3 with Gears 1 netcode and Ill be in heaven. Though I love Uncharted mechanics for the SP campaign I never really got into the feel of the multiplayer.

What ?? Gears 1 netcode is terrible. It's even worse than Gears 2 netcode.

 

[Kibbles]

So basically Cliff Bleszinski admitted that Gears of War 2 multiplayer was broken and unplayable. Excellent. Yet the media gave the game a free pass in every review possible. How awesome is that?

Spoiler

By the way, where the hell is Clay Carmine in the trailer? After all, Ben did reference him in the last game. Not to mention, he did say there was 3 of them in total.

The MP was good for a while, how were reviewers supposed to know it would turn into shit?

 

[Aladuf]

That same interview confirmed the Pendulum Lancer and sawed-off Double-Barrel Shotgun and Cliff says they're going to "embrace the shotgun" for Gears 3 and allow more arcadey play.

I'm loving everything I'm hearing about Gears 3 right now. April 2011 yet?

I love the sound of them saying that they're going to embrace the shotgun. If they bring back the ability to gut charge with the shotgun again, I'll be very happy. Not that I do that all the time, but once it was patched/removed in Gears 2, it never felt like the shotgun would fire half of the time after you got out of moving at all.

 

[2 Minutes Turkish]

Yeah I completely agree. I just want Gears 3 with Gears 1 netcode and Ill be in heaven. Though I love Uncharted mechanics for the SP campaign I never really got into the feel of the multiplayer.

Ah, I'm sure you meant to say brand new fixed netcode.

Gears 1 was a piece of shit online as well.

 

[BloodySinner]

The MP was good for a while, how were reviewers supposed to know it would turn into shit?

Turn into shit? It was shit from the start. I bought the game before it's official launch.

 

[Rocket786]

I hope for some epic tragedy stuff at the end. Like, the whole squad being all thats left of humanity being finally overwhelmed somewhat like in the trailer. That's what I wanted out of ODST.

GoW3 "In the End, There Will Only Be Chaos!"

Oh wait...

 

[Mizzou Gaming]

I don't think the core shooting mechanic has been matched. Better than any 3rd person shooter. Feels so solid.

What's amazing is really how simple it all is too. The entire cover system controlled with a single button and an analog stick and the active reload mechanic based off of simple timing has been around forever in all sorts of different games from golf to platformers.

 

[mr stroke]

Trailers looks great(though I wish it was less grey)


I hope this means this is the last big 360 game and next Xbox in Holiday 2011

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

Ah, I'm sure you meant to say brand new fixed netcode.

Gears 1 was a piece of shit online as well.

Damn I need to clarify. By Gears 1 netcode I meant how quick it was able to get you into a game and how smooth the party functions were.

Trailers looks great(though I wish it was less grey)


I hope this means this is the last big 360 game and next Xbox in Holiday 2011

With Natal releasing this holiday I seriously doubt it.

 

[RSTEIN]

Congratulations Cliffy, Gears is now considered to be a Top 3 World News story by Google. :lol

This is why Joe Graf is still in charge of netcode. This is why there's no incentive to fix anything. As it is, even with the shit netcode, it's the biggest new franchise this gen and will go on to sell millions. To do a major overhaul probably isn't worth it for them.

 

[PedroLumpy]

Speaking of, there's an actual discussion over whether the ladies should be chainsawed or not.

http://kotaku.com/5516263/should-she-be-chainsawable

Don't read the comments if you value your sanity. I did, and I need therapy.

Interesting, although I would put it as should she be in the multiplayer at all. If she's in, she's gotta be chainsawable (ugh).

Also interesting about embracing the arcadey. If it's what the majority of the fans want, I guess why fight it? Although it'll be the death of a bit of a dream for Cliff Bleszinski.

<snip>Perhaps it was then that I thought about how most shooters play. They're not like real firefights. Circle strafing, jumping around -- these elements have felt alien to me for the last few years. For example, take the use of cover. Before we started Gears of War, we saw other games with cover in them. Our question was, "How are we going to make hiding behind a wall interesting?" Answer: "Make it real."<snip>

 

[Reckoner]

The thing with Gears 1 is that people were always playing player matches with friends from the same country. That's why people think that it had less lag than Gears 2.

It only needs server browser or dedicated servers with better netcode, but coming from Epic, the guys who after TU and TU where broking more and more Gears, I can't expect anything good.

 

[Ryuuga]

I've always wanted to grow a santiagoatee.

 

[Mizzou Gaming]

I haven't read through the thread yet but does anyone else enjoy the games just for the SP / co-op? That's all my friends and I really do now. We used to play some Gears 1 multiplayer but since we couldn't have guests in Gears 2 we just sort of gave up on MP after that. I've had G2 almost since launch and have not touched an online mode yet. :lol

Really looking forward to the campaign though. Gears doesn't have the best story but it's a fun story to go through that's interesting enough for me not to get bored. And 4 player co-op is the icing on the cake. Sadly probably only have 3 people on hand regularly though.

The single player is what gets my $$$ but I have to admit I have spent God knows how many hours in Horde mode. I actually play the other multiplayer occassionally with just the bots and its pretty fun for me because I can actually win. Gears 1 or 2 in multiplayer I just flatout stunk.

 

[Frillen]

Girl looks like David Bowie.

 

[Diablohead]

The MP was good for a while, how were reviewers supposed to know it would turn into shit?

It only took a few matches to tell that host advantage was as strong as ever, tagging frags is OP and smokes were too powerful (before the many patch adjustments)

 

[pr0cs]

Is gears2 still broken for network code? Last I heard after all the patches and stuff it works reasonably well and with a region browser or similar (as Epic had mentioned) it would work even better.

 

[Swifty]

One hope I have for the inclusion of Lambent as enemy is I hope they're playable in multiplayer and if gibbed, set off a nasty explosion. That'll teach people to think twice before doing a 2-piece or chainsawing upclose. :lol