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Leaked Marketing Agreement for RE8 Forces Parity and Blocks the Game From GamePass
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Gamerguy84
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Someone as neutral as timdog will surely bring out the truth.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
You tried to argue with no point whatsoever because you clearly weren't paying attention.
ManaByte responded with "feature and technical parity" in a response to Mr Moose who said "no extra DLC and stuff on other platforms".
I replied to him and said, "It's clearly (when talking about technical parity) talking about content". But of course, you had to jump in and say, 'The subsection is literally called "feature, content and technical parity", it's not just about content."
Let me show you where you failed.
I quoted this portion specially.
I never said it just refers to content. Specifically quoted what it was referring to, and I highlighted this part for a reason. What I ALSO said is that additional features and benefits CAN include content, too.
You're arguing just to argue at this point. Fact is, it's not referring to resolution as the ManaByte first implied. Might as well move on because you started arguing with me for some dumb reason.
MrSarcastic
Banned
What if sony is also buying review scores and makes gamepass games to be 70s on Metacritic?
GHG
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ManaByte
Gold Member
C’mon this is Sony. It’s not like they’re Rockstar and offering to hire hookers for the press on a junket.
ethomaz
Banned
Here’s the parity part:
It actually says content parity since there is no platform limitation.
Not what the dumb Twitter tries to say.
ManaByte
Gold Member
It says “content, feature and technical parity”. Some people want to ignore the bolded part for some reason.
rickybooby87
Member
That means nothing? The "Features, Content and Technical Parity" section would need to have very clear and concise language that would read something like "No other console can have higher fidelity/visual effects, and if necessary, competing platforms will need to be adjusted as not to cause disparity between the PS5 and competing platforms" or something like that. That's me being an arm-chair-lawyer, but I've read enough contracts to know the content/context of what's being agreed to. Also, that Twitter account? don't make me laugh.
Mr Moose
Member
So where does it say about resolution and fps below that part? It doesn't from what I can see. It mentions features and DLC. PC going to be stuck with console res, fps and settings, can't wait to see it.
ManaByte
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HoegLaw is a YouTube channel that produces videos about legal matters in the video game industry.
ethomaz
Banned
Keep reading lol
There is a whole paragraph explaining what the bolded part is.
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DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
You're ignoring every other explanation what technical parity is likely referring to.
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ManaByte
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ManaByte
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killatopak
Gold Member
They can’t answer the PC parity cause then the narrative would fall apart.
ManaByte
Gold Member
There have been PC ports of console games in the past that have had locked frame rates or settings that were “fixed” with a fan patch.
rickybooby87
Member
I know this. Let me ask you a question, What reasons, would a guy with only 4800 twitter followers, and 35K subscribers on YouTube have for even entertaining FUD like this? There are FAR more credible/reliable/established channels that would of been the more obvious choice to send these leaked documents to.
Flashy Wizard
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What has Sony gotten itself into this gen? They’ve been bombarded with negative story after negative story. There’s some people that really have it out for them...jeez! I personally believe the contract to be real but the language used is confusing unless you speak legal jargon. I guess we’ll find out for sure when RE8 releases.
killatopak
Gold Member
I very much doubt that for RE8.
You know all of this will be answered around May 1 when the PC Demo with XSX demo of the game gets released. It‘s very easy to jump to conclusions when hearing breaking news like this. Calm down and just wait for it to have actual proof.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
Oh I'm paying all the attention.
Mr moose's reply to the entire document/section:
Manabyte correcting by saying:
You saying this dumb stuff:
Manabyte correcting you:
Me correcting you:
And then you go on to quote section (ii) of the subsection, completely ignoring the full thing that talks about technical parity.
And finally you conjure up your own definitions, even though the legal document defines all things seperately already, which means they aren't the same thing, yet you try to group things together under "content".
Don't ever try to write your own legal documents.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
Yes, 1440p @ 120fps would be an additional feature\mode
That means Sony would need it, too.
What you fail to accept is that the game runs at 4K CB on both modes.
You really believe Sony blocked MS from running this game at Native 4K? Which would actually make the game run worse?
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
I thought the parity thing was actually kinda normal? (As shitty as it is)
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
He never corrected me. Technical parity does in fact include CONTENT. That's what the description says. If you have content on PS5, then you need the same parity and no additional content on other platforms.
You're not paying attention. Stop lol
Alex Scott
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Xbox Game Studios & Bethesda |OTXIII| Todd Howard & The Temple of Doom OT
Yea, these contracts aren't really meant to be seen by people outside of legal, marketing and maybe one or two other teams, haha. It's all just highlighting that the developer has to push the game as hard as they can on the console and can't half ass it on the platform (in this case...
www.resetera.com
Xbox Game Studios & Bethesda |OTXIII| Todd Howard & The Temple of Doom OT
Everything in that contract is pretty industry standard. Again, industry standard. All the red boxed second of the contract says is that the game has to be the best it can be on the PlayStation platform, hence "material platform limitations" and that the game can't be released with a new...
www.resetera.com
Hopefully this clears things up.
This is normal.
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bender
What time is it?
I think people are making way too many assumptions about "Technical parity" and not taking into consideration "(subject to material platform limitations)". My reading of "subject to material platform limitations" wouldn't prevent more powerful platforms from higher resolutions/framerates etc., but would limit Capcom's ability to make things like controller vibration exclusive to XBox or VR exclusive to PC since Playstation supports those technologies. People are just click-baiting the narrative and everyone is falling for it.
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ManaByte
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No but I could believe the Xbox One X and PS4 Pro have forced parity.
Mr Moose
Member
Feature parity probably is, no one wants to get a version with less shit if you're paying for marketing. I don't think this is a Unity case this time, we'll see very soon though.
It'll run better on the One X.
Or at least should.
It's a last gen game, the mode that should've been capped at 30fps should run better on the One X for sure.
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DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
So Xbox One X version is going to have the same resolution textures as the PlayStation 4 Pro version?
Technical parity and content parity are two clear and distinct things.
That said, I don't see anything unexpected in this contract? I imagine it's fairly standard for a marketing agreement.
ManaByte
Gold Member
The two are running at the same resolution/frame rate which is rare for those two systems.
Alex Scott
Member
Apparently that seems to be the case.
SLB1904
Banned
some people are trying to find the 2tf
Just like the beginning of last generation when Microsoft was shooting itself in the foot Sony is to. All of the bad press has been self inflicted like closing the ps3-vita store non communication with fans ect. Sony only has Sony to blame. Just like in 2013 Microsoft had only Microsoft to blame.
DForce
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GHG
Member
I actually hope it's real because if someone spent time fabricating this then god help them.
ethomaz
Banned
I believe it real because it is very standard contract and there is nothing unusual like forced parity like some are trying to say.
Unless people really believes the game will have the same resolution/framerate between PC/Mobile/PS5/SeriesXS/PS4/XB1/Switch etc etc if ever released in all these.
The fact there is a “subject to platform limitations” just tell you the game can have different settings in all platforms.
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Reizo Ryuu
Member
No, it doesn't.
If it did then the subsection only has to be called "Content parity", but it isn't; legal documents don't go out of their way to define things that just mean the same thing.
The text literally says even subject to the material platform capabalities.
Again, never write your own legal documents, you'd just end up crying in court over "but I thought just saying "content" covered everything
".Actually if you read the whole thread, the lawyer seems to say the same thing as me. Basically, yes this FUD. This is just standard exclusive marketing deal. I have already explained and give games example why sony did not force parity, the same for MS too. Hitman, avanger, marketing deal with Sony, major resolution advantage to the Series x. Dirt 5 and Assasin creed, marketing deal with xbox, performance and resolution advantage for the ps5.
Do you honestly think their "horse" is struggling?
What crazy alternate reality do you live in?
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
You just don't get it.No, it doesn't.
If it did then the subsection only has to be called "Content parity", but it isn't; legal documents don't go out of their way to define things that just mean the same thing.
The text literally says even subject to the material platform capabalities.
Again, never write your own legal documents, you'd just end up crying in court over "but I thought just saying "content" covered everything
No one is saying content and features = technical parity.
It's what can be considered UNDER technical parity. Features can refer to in game features. Content can refer to DLC. These two words does not indicate parity at all. The term "technical parity" can include both since the subject is about maintaining parity between all platforms.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
No, it doesn't, that's you ignoring that it's mentioned seperately from features and content, and conjuring up your own definitions.
Legal documents don't define terms that just means one and the same thing; feature parity is one thing, content parity is one thing, and technical parity is one thing, they aren't "considered under" each other they are seperaly defined things.
So:
No, it doesn't.
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