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Masters of Sex - Michael Sheen & Lizzy Caplan - Sundays on Showtime
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Yes. Though based on true events and (I think) bound to follow them at least in a general manner this is not a biopic. It just shows how important, life altering and all consuming sex is.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
I really liked this episode. Started off kinda slow, then got real good towards the end.
There's something about Virginia Johnson I can't quite get my finger on. The show seems to dive into the emotions of every other character except her own... but, I'm starting to wonder if that's by design. She always detaches herself from any man that she's sleeping with, and absolves herself from any responsibility outside of the responsibilities that come with being a good friend. Little does she know that she's playing with the emotions of every man she's been with so far on the show.
Funny enough, though...
So, maybe we'll eventually see Virginia experiencing some sort of consequence for her unabashed promiscuity and (sudden) hypocrisy...
There's something about Virginia Johnson I can't quite get my finger on. The show seems to dive into the emotions of every other character except her own... but, I'm starting to wonder if that's by design. She always detaches herself from any man that she's sleeping with, and absolves herself from any responsibility outside of the responsibilities that come with being a good friend. Little does she know that she's playing with the emotions of every man she's been with so far on the show.
First Dr. Haas, then Masters. Her effect in each of their lives and relationships with the women in each of their lives has been profound, and yet while others are reeling from their misdeeds in their relationships, she has suffered no consequence whatsoever (well... nothing other than a DV situation with Haas, lol). Even when she got her kids all pissed at her for working too much, she was able to simply pass that responsibility and accountability onto someone else.
Funny enough, though...
the end of the latest episode implies that she actually might have feelings for Masters in the end (and it took her having a killer orgasm with Masters to come to that point), even though Masters is no longer focused on Virginia outside of the study, per Virginia's own request.
I don't see her as playing with anyone's emotions maliciously. She was up front with Haas about being just friends.
I do wonder about her children though. I mean, she works late nights a lot and her relationship with her son is already not so great.
I'm a bit blown away by them participating in the study like that. It just seems so completely unnecessary.
I do wonder about her children though. I mean, she works late nights a lot and her relationship with her son is already not so great.
I'm a bit blown away by them participating in the study like that. It just seems so completely unnecessary.
narcosis219
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Yeah, but that might speak to each character's own ulterior motives. Masters obviously wants (wanted) her, and Virginia is just genuinely interested in how the different positions work, but as hinted at the end of the episode Virginia might want Masters as well.
The opening scene shocked me. I really though it would be a situation they really built up to but BLAM. It was just there from the off. Think they could've used that moment a bit better.
War Peaceman
You're a big guy.
I don't know how you can say she detaches?
She was clear with Ethan from the off, she becomes attached to Masters (If she already wasn't) and just had sex with her ex in a mutually physical manner. If anything this episode shows that she isn't always detached - she claims that she can separate love and sex but in this episode struggles to do so.
The problems with men are all as a result of how they approach her. Ethan took their relationship to be more than she very clearly stated. That is all on him. Masters acted like a seedy, manipulative figure, creepily listening to that recording of hers that discusses her sexual experience and knowingly promoting her/bringing up their involvement in the study. I don't see how it is her fault that people took a liking to her - she did her job very effectively and embedded herself into the study through skill not sex.
The problems with men are all as a result of how they approach her. Ethan took their relationship to be more than she very clearly stated. That is all on him. Masters acted like a seedy, manipulative figure, creepily listening to that recording of hers that discusses her sexual experience and knowingly promoting her/bringing up their involvement in the study. I don't see how it is her fault that people took a liking to her - she did her job very effectively and embedded herself into the study through skill not sex.
Tim the Wiz
Banned
No, you don't understand: she's promiscuous and confident and ambitious: there must be 'consequences'!
Dude. What.
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
Hahahahahaha this is the funniest thing I've ever read on gaf.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
narcosis219
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All you need is ice cubes doe
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Guys, there's no need to spoiler tag discussion pertaining to an episode that has already aired.
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
Harvey's girls don't need no prosthetics.
Cornballer
Member
Does anyone know what Bill and Virginia are saying to each other toward the end of the final
in the last episode? I know that they are both
but I cant really tell what they are saying.
All I know is that Johnson had quite the look in her eyes after
She seemed genuinely impressed, and I think Bill knows it. That mutherfucker.
sex scene
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All I know is that Johnson had quite the look in her eyes after
she came.
Hours Left
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So, I have the entire season so far on demand through my cable box, and I've seen various TV Gaffers talking about this. Is it good?
It has Teddy Sears in it so that's already a plus, but I already watch far too much television. Is it worth adding to my rotation?
It has Teddy Sears in it so that's already a plus, but I already watch far too much television. Is it worth adding to my rotation?
Yeah, this show is quality. Definitely belongs in any rotation.
dead souls
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Agreed. It's the best new show of the fall by a mile.
Cornballer
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It's been great so far. Best new show of the Fall and well worth your time.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Yeah, it's one of the best new shows of the fall. Definitely worth your time.
Hours Left
Member
Hmmmmmmmmmm, I guess I'll have to squeeze it in. Something else needs to be cut then though.
*gets out the axe*
*gets out the axe*
If you need any axes, I still have a couple left at my station
Do you watch Agents of Shield? Because that would be an easy cut for me.
Cornballer
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New episode tonight:
Cornballer
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Rafa=FedKilla
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Any prosthetic nipples this episode?
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
By Friday/Saturday of each week, I wonder if I'm not overhyping this show to myself, and if it really is that good. Then Sunday rolls around, and *bam* it's better than last week, again.
Tons of stuff going on in this episode. And I noticed Michael Apted directed again, he did Caroline as well. I've always thought he was a great director, and he seems to be the go-to guy for episodes that call for a lot of nuanced acting. (He also has a background in both documentaries and dramatized versions of true stories, makes perfect sense he'd be on this show.)
As much as I love Sepinwall, he doesn't seem to get this show at some level. He keeps going back to how it does or doesn't follow history, and I think the ship has sailed on that one, with the huge amount of deviations that the show takes. It's fiction inspired by real people, but fiction. Therefore, what material covered when isn't a matter of history so much as what's desired for dramatic purposes. The Gay Therapy stuff certainly should come early on, as the theme of the show so far seems to be the seismic, indirect ripples that the study has on a very repressed culture.
I laughed out loud as the "proposal" scene, even though it's really not at all that funny for the people involved.
Maters: Man, he really is turning out to be a bit of a bad guy. Every time I see him and Johnson in lab coats or robes, or sharing the wonder of seeing groundbreaking footage, I really *want* their partnership to be two inspired equals workign together-- but it so, so isn't that way.
Last: Big bummer for Dr DePaul.
Tons of stuff going on in this episode. And I noticed Michael Apted directed again, he did Caroline as well. I've always thought he was a great director, and he seems to be the go-to guy for episodes that call for a lot of nuanced acting. (He also has a background in both documentaries and dramatized versions of true stories, makes perfect sense he'd be on this show.)
As much as I love Sepinwall, he doesn't seem to get this show at some level. He keeps going back to how it does or doesn't follow history, and I think the ship has sailed on that one, with the huge amount of deviations that the show takes. It's fiction inspired by real people, but fiction. Therefore, what material covered when isn't a matter of history so much as what's desired for dramatic purposes. The Gay Therapy stuff certainly should come early on, as the theme of the show so far seems to be the seismic, indirect ripples that the study has on a very repressed culture.
I laughed out loud as the "proposal" scene, even though it's really not at all that funny for the people involved.
Maters: Man, he really is turning out to be a bit of a bad guy. Every time I see him and Johnson in lab coats or robes, or sharing the wonder of seeing groundbreaking footage, I really *want* their partnership to be two inspired equals workign together-- but it so, so isn't that way.
Last: Big bummer for Dr DePaul.
narcosis219
Member
Didn't seem prosthetic
Ignatz Mouse
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Another thing about this week--
They mention the architecture of the Masters house. It's open plan and large, which I figured would be very upscale in the time. By the 70s and 80s this look would be considered pretty ho-hum but I guess my notions of home architecture were right based on the house being a novelty to the handyman.
They mention the architecture of the Masters house. It's open plan and large, which I figured would be very upscale in the time. By the 70s and 80s this look would be considered pretty ho-hum but I guess my notions of home architecture were right based on the house being a novelty to the handyman.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
The stuff with Allison Janney and Beau Bridges is just heartbreaking. I feel so bad for both of them. They're both so lonely and beaten down - unable to connect with each other or with anyone else.
dead souls
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Another great episode in what is shaping up to be a very strong first season of television.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
The stuff with Allison Janney and Beau Bridges is just heartbreaking. I feel so bad for both of them. They're both so lonely and beaten down - unable to connect with each other or with anyone else.
Barton's scene with Kyle (?) was also heartbreaking. "Nobody gets to be disgusted by me except me."
Also, was Margaret calling him "Button"? Even more sad, using a pet name in a conversation like that.
I want their story to end happily, and I am pretty sure it will not.
Cornballer
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Ignatz Mouse
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Reviews of this show frustrate me. Most because they seem ti misunderstand things, this one because it lists a bunch of stuff that makes the show awesome and then says that it's missing something.
This is probably the most personal and intimate of any prestige drama, but since it lacks anything more compelling than human relationships it gets dinged.
This is probably the most personal and intimate of any prestige drama, but since it lacks anything more compelling than human relationships it gets dinged.
I was a little surprised they actually showed the footage at the end of the most recent episode. I guess it doesn't fall foul of ratings boards/regulations/whatever because it's educational/medical in nature instead of actually erotic or anything? Though apparently Bill got a boner :3
I agree.The stuff with Allison Janney and Beau Bridges is just heartbreaking. I feel so bad for both of them. They're both so lonely and beaten down - unable to connect with each other or with anyone else.
Do you mean the video from the vibrator/dildo? Considering the other stuff they've shown, I can't see why that footage would be a problem.
narcosis219
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Well, since it is more socially acceptable to show decapitation and extreme violenc than penetration and boobs, I wouldn't be surprised if someone was offended by that footage
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
They're completely original characters, are they not? If so, there might be a chance that their story ends happily.
probably not though ;__;
I'm sure it was just a prosthetic vaginal canal.
I guess I'm surprised that anyone would be upset by that footage. Remember when the Today show did a colonoscopy on-air (I think it was Katie Couric)? No one was bothered by that. I don't see how this is much different. It probably looked like a whole lotta nothing to most people anyway.
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
I hear they use those a lot in porn now...
They've really rushed through the Provost(and wife's) story, i feel.
When all three meet in the hotel lounge i was rolling my eyes hard.
The rest was a lot of fun to watch, though.
I particularly enjoy Dr. DePaul's arc, i want to see where that one goes.
Also final note, Vivian is so goddamn cute.. she could play a Disney princess very well.
When all three meet in the hotel lounge i was rolling my eyes hard.
The rest was a lot of fun to watch, though.
I particularly enjoy Dr. DePaul's arc, i want to see where that one goes.
Also final note, Vivian is so goddamn cute.. she could play a Disney princess very well.
Rafa=FedKilla
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She plays Tinker Belle on Once Upon A Time. I agree though, I have a major crush on her.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
I was thinking that they're going through the Provost's story quickly because it's a one-season deal and he'll be gone after that. :_(
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
You mean Beau Bridges? If he only signed on for one season, there's always a chance that he'll sign on for another.
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