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MvC: Infinite Story Demo out now + several new reveals [Sony E3]
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Newniverse
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I've been maining Captain Marvel. She's the only one I pretty much care about and started to train with her. This is a snippet of what I got so far.
FusedAtoms
Member
Woah this game is really fun
Most of the good artists (Nishimura, Yasuda, Yoshikawa) left Capcom a while ago. That said, Monster Hunter Stories has great art direction.
I've been maining Captain Marvel. She's the only one I pretty much care about and started to train with her. This is a snippet of what I got so far.
sweet combo...how long did it take to get that down?
can you get another flying charge into the combo before the air photon blast by doing 1 more fly/unfly?
Newniverse
Member
Honestly? about 10-20 minutes.
Quite possibly! I ended up screwing up by tagging. I think its even possible to do her binary form transformation mid combo to keep it going.
I'm starting to realize that GAF might be the most pointlessly and pathetically negative place on the internet. I'm on board with a lot of the complaints, but you'd think this game murdered some people's families and then desecrated the corpses.
I agree but I think a lot of it stems from the fact that MvC is a beloved series and we're seeing it get shit on so we're all upset.
Between this Monster Hunter World and people comparing web swinging in old Spiderman games I just don't know anymore lol.
This story demo got me hyped for the game. I didn't get SFV cause of the lack of stuff but this is a day one.
ThatCrazyGuy
Member
Will the Alex and FANG complaining stop in the SFV thread then
Note:
I play Alex.....hehe
Also, i played some more this morning. Something feels off. idk what it is yet.
lucebuce12
Member
Will the Alex and FANG complaining stop in the SFV thread then
Damn, it took you this long?
Edit: In my opinion....This forum is a hivemind run amok. They just have the best news pages and quickest updates, so I am always here. Lol.
direct_quote
Member
From this to people calling others cucks, it's gotten pretty bad lol.
loli pantsu
Member
I dunno... Thanos didn't sound as regal or refined as I had expected.
He came across as more of a thug than someone who schemes and plans.
He came across as more of a thug than someone who schemes and plans.
shaowebb
Member
To those making fun of poor Chun li, maybe Capcom will fix her up like NRS did Wonder Woman.
Quite possible. A lot of the issues with KOF14 and I2 were that the maps and lighting weren't finalized. A lot can change by the time you are done finalizing shadow, reflect, highlight, pitting, and ambient occlussion stuff. Plus yes, I2 did also touch up Wonder Woman's model here and there as they went along too.
MVCI isn't done yet. Knowing this they shouldn't have highlighted all this with a Story only trailer. They should've ran with the gameplay reel of new characters and then announced the Demo.
DryEyeRelief
Member
When the leaked roster revealed and there were videos of characters with the same hyper combo animations, there were a bunch here defending in saying Marvel 2 had a bunch of reused characters. Apparently, embracing reused assets and cutting corners is a sign of your OG status.
Cheap is a part of the marvel legacy. I don't mean cheap in the competitive sense.
roflwaffles
Member
It looks worse than MVC3, but the worse thing is that it feels much worse playing than MVC3. The screen size is too small for a Marvel game and the movement (the absolute most important thing in Marvel) just feels janky as hell.
They need to delay this game.
Also lmao if this mobile looking UI is the final one they're going with for this game.
They need to delay this game.
Also lmao if this mobile looking UI is the final one they're going with for this game.
shaowebb
Member
You need some perspective on it. Folks begged for years for a sequel to the 3v3 assist gameplay in UMVC3 in a new marvel. They got a sequel announced but it completely scrapped 3v3 for 2v2 and got rid of assists outright. In fact, easier inputs, no wavedash, and a host of things came out that they tossed. The gameplay was entirely replaced at its fundamentals so it was a bait and switch.
The tag mechanics and stones got detailed and it did seem fun and like there would be depth so folks started to warm up to the new game even though it wasn't what they'd asked for in terms of gameplay since it would at least still be Marvel vs Capcom in roster. Then leaks hit announcing a greatly reduced roster in size and that most of the base roster would be returning cast from UMVC3 that were not the most popular and that most of the exciting roster was cut. Also that the new game was gonna have a roster without Xmen or FF cast which eliminates most of the biggest faces in the series for fans. Finally DLC stuff was mentioned to alleviate that but it looks like all the new and popular characters (both old and new) are purposely being hidden behind DLC paywalls on folks.
Add in the fact that since the first trailers the character models have had off faces and weird shader issues that make them look low budget and the game getting an E3 trailer that only put that under a magnifying glass amidst 4k titles and new fighters like Dragonball Fighterz that not only brought back all the gameplay they asked for but added stuff and looked great and thats why folks are mad...they feel let down, bait and switched, and nickel and dimed and the game hasn't even launched yet.
Capcom needs to strategize their news and economics better because the way they released info was just positioned in such a way that it maximizes the negative instead of focusing on any of the good in the game. They got a lot of negative press and they need to address stuff more when folks show this much concern. Im not saying change your roster and gameplay but have more streams where combofiend can go in on stuff and make players excited and alleviate stuff. Let em see gameplay instead of agonizing cutscenes that only highlight models with half finished shader work and models that could use more facial touchup. Tease roster stuff instead of letting it just come out in chunks after leakers already stole their thunder. MVC3 had 2 characters revealed every other week then breakdowns by Seth Killian plus streams and demo stuff at events to spread word of mouth. They need to do something because the methods they are using now are letting them get eaten alive by leakers and other games competing for attention whove positioned their own marketing with more positive footage. Hell we know more in one week from DBFZ than we've known on MVCI in nearly a year.
After about an hour with the demo, I have to agree with everybody thrashing the controls and overall feeling of the game. It's weird but not in a good way.
The closest example I can relate to is like going from SF Alpha 2 into SF EX+. You went from this smooth and quick, stylish animated look, into a slower, clunky, lifeless 3D looking mess.
Maybe when longer matches can be had, it'll feel better, but so far it's just not clicking, especially since it doesnt have a good roster of characters to fall back on.
The closest example I can relate to is like going from SF Alpha 2 into SF EX+. You went from this smooth and quick, stylish animated look, into a slower, clunky, lifeless 3D looking mess.
Maybe when longer matches can be had, it'll feel better, but so far it's just not clicking, especially since it doesnt have a good roster of characters to fall back on.
Really couldn't have written it better myself.
Don't point fingers at fans. Capcom has done this to themselves. As a company you are responsible for your own messaging, and Seth/Capcom did a fantastic job back in the day making the game feel exciting and fresh.
The problem is exacerbated further by the extremely strong competition Capcom is facing now.
Hostile_18
Banned
I'm just a casual fan of fighting games but even I noticed how bad it looked. The characters looked awful, early last gen. The story bad guy looks like a joke as well... eyes in the chest? No, no, no.
Even if the gameplay is incredible the graphics are going to go against it sales wise. Especially when Injustice and Tekken 7 have pushed the genre forward so far.
Even if the gameplay is incredible the graphics are going to go against it sales wise. Especially when Injustice and Tekken 7 have pushed the genre forward so far.
Newniverse
Member
Got some more of my training for you guys...
Say what you want about how the game looks... As far as gameplay, as long as you got the imagination... you can do quite a lot.
Say what you want about how the game looks... As far as gameplay, as long as you got the imagination... you can do quite a lot.
I don't really get why people keep saying Tekken 7 is pushing the genre forward.
In what way exactly? It doesn't have a basic tutorial for how its mechanics works, a trial mode, people can duck each other in ranked, the story mode for 90% of its characters are a single fight and a not so good cutscene at the end.
I'm having a blast with that game right now, don't get me wrong, but it's just another Tekken game to me.
Regarding MvC:I, all I hope is that they put out an old build as a demo and all of this stuff will be resolved at launch.
In what way exactly? It doesn't have a basic tutorial for how its mechanics works, a trial mode, people can duck each other in ranked, the story mode for 90% of its characters are a single fight and a not so good cutscene at the end.
I'm having a blast with that game right now, don't get me wrong, but it's just another Tekken game to me.
Regarding MvC:I, all I hope is that they put out an old build as a demo and all of this stuff will be resolved at launch.
What does Chris G say?
I doubt anyone is paying him for a positive tweet after his recent clown show.
JeTmAn81
Member
direct_quote
Member
Anyone at E3 play the demo there yet?
BotoxAgent
Member
Somebody in my local FGC Facebook group posted this:
damn yo she lost that supermodel jaw line T_T
roflwaffles
Member
Agreed on all points.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Got some more of my training for you guys...
Say what you want about how the game looks... As far as gameplay, as long as you got the imagination... you can do quite a lot.
I don't know compared to Dragon Ball looks underwhelming.
Some terrible posts in here as of late. Wow at the Capcuck and daughter porn posts...
In any case this game's engine is very open like Marvel 3. You are going to have a lot of creative stuff in it that people are going to tinker around for years to come.
I played around with the demo late last night and yeah there is something off about the ground movement they need to fix. The input leniency definitely feels like its hurting the game although I will admit that if I hadn't seen other pro players play it I would have just chalked it up to my own bad execution/lack of familiarity with the game.
Tagging has like 2 seconds cooldown maximum. I am pretty sure people are going to find out pressure strings that start with one character, go to the other character and then go back to the original one. Pretty much everytime you block something in this game could lead into a mix up situation.
People said a while back that tagging out removes red life, that is not the case so there is no restriction to just tagging back and forth. If your opponent can't stop it then you can get away with so much.
Also this game has significant proximity guard which I can't see as being a good thing. You are going to dash back and then immediatly start blocking when someone sticks out a normal.
The hit stop is about as bad as it looks in the trailers and online. The actual animations of the moves are fine but when something connects it just doesn't feel or look good at all.
Arthur plays very similar to his Marvel 3 self but he has a ground dash now. It's pretty disappointing
Dante has pretty much all of his moves back but they are all re-arranged or reworked. Hammer is a regular QCF+P move in the air as compared to being a CC move from Killer Bee (which to be honest never made sense to me because that's not how it worked in DMC3). His more useless moves look more usable like Million Carats actually freezes enemies in place for a combo. Dante needs to be re-examined from a fresh eye but he still should be the go to guy for stylish game play.
Also someone already fixed Chun Li on reddit LOL!
Also character select screen from the E3 show floor:
In any case this game's engine is very open like Marvel 3. You are going to have a lot of creative stuff in it that people are going to tinker around for years to come.
I played around with the demo late last night and yeah there is something off about the ground movement they need to fix. The input leniency definitely feels like its hurting the game although I will admit that if I hadn't seen other pro players play it I would have just chalked it up to my own bad execution/lack of familiarity with the game.
Tagging has like 2 seconds cooldown maximum. I am pretty sure people are going to find out pressure strings that start with one character, go to the other character and then go back to the original one. Pretty much everytime you block something in this game could lead into a mix up situation.
People said a while back that tagging out removes red life, that is not the case so there is no restriction to just tagging back and forth. If your opponent can't stop it then you can get away with so much.
Also this game has significant proximity guard which I can't see as being a good thing. You are going to dash back and then immediatly start blocking when someone sticks out a normal.
The hit stop is about as bad as it looks in the trailers and online. The actual animations of the moves are fine but when something connects it just doesn't feel or look good at all.
Arthur plays very similar to his Marvel 3 self but he has a ground dash now. It's pretty disappointing
Dante has pretty much all of his moves back but they are all re-arranged or reworked. Hammer is a regular QCF+P move in the air as compared to being a CC move from Killer Bee (which to be honest never made sense to me because that's not how it worked in DMC3). His more useless moves look more usable like Million Carats actually freezes enemies in place for a combo. Dante needs to be re-examined from a fresh eye but he still should be the go to guy for stylish game play.
Also someone already fixed Chun Li on reddit LOL!
Also character select screen from the E3 show floor:
What the hell. That leak about characters performing uppercuts/anti-air specials with a down down motion rather than the standard DP motion was completely true. I've seen gameplay clips and it looks like Ryu is the only character that still has the DP motion for his uppercut.
Also, it's kind of hard to tell since the AI is extremely weak in the story demo, but gaining meter seems to be extremely slow. The only times you gain meter is when you hit or get hit. No meter for specials or when the opponent is blocking.
Also, it's kind of hard to tell since the AI is extremely weak in the story demo, but gaining meter seems to be extremely slow. The only times you gain meter is when you hit or get hit. No meter for specials or when the opponent is blocking.
Flight combos are kinda Marvel 101. lp, lk, hp, hk, flight cancel, repeat with a special ender. I like Spencer/Captain Marvel so far
Taliban Stan
Member
I've been maining Captain Marvel. She's the only one I pretty much care about and started to train with her. This is a snippet of what I got so far.
Looks fun. I hope they add more stuff to the stages. They seem a little dead. All text seems Injustice style super boring. That's a let down. I'm definitely in the "big, colored, damage numbers" camp and this looks like the polar opposite. Will have to play it to get a better sense, but I was expecting it to look like waaaaaaaaaaaay worse of a game given the internet/Kappa backlash.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
The UI (especially text) definitely needs work, but I'd actually take these relatively static stages over a lot of MvC3's.
Part of the reason why you never see anything but Bonne Wonderland in tournaments is that no player wants to hit random select and risk landing on Shield Helicarrier (where you can't keep track of projectiles because the background is too goddamn busy) or Demon Village (where you can't keep track of the corners because the stage is constantly moving).
Finally got a chance to play the story demo.
The game is butt ugly, and Chun looks like a straight up alien. Shameful, and I don't think this is fixable in 3 months.
The gameplay feels okay, but I definitely get why people have been saying it feels sluggish. This can hopefully be addressed before launch.
DP motions being replaced with down down is dumb and annoying, and I'm hoping they change it back. It doesn't make anything easier, it's just annoying.
The game is butt ugly, and Chun looks like a straight up alien. Shameful, and I don't think this is fixable in 3 months.
The gameplay feels okay, but I definitely get why people have been saying it feels sluggish. This can hopefully be addressed before launch.
DP motions being replaced with down down is dumb and annoying, and I'm hoping they change it back. It doesn't make anything easier, it's just annoying.
UcchedavÄda
Member
It is possible that they simply haven't added/finalized background stuff yet.
For example, Bustling Side Street did not have NPCs when it was shown off the first time for SFV:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs8NNUMFpg8
Though SFV was much further from release at that point, compared to MvC:I.
Lovely Salsa
Banned
The game doesnt look bad
Dunno what some of you are smoking
Dunno what some of you are smoking
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Waiting for show floor impressions of that build to see if anything is different at all about the engine and physics in the game.
Having a hard time believing Capcom could screw up the most basic fighting game fundamentals - even SFV's strong point from day one was that it felt really great.
Having a hard time believing Capcom could screw up the most basic fighting game fundamentals - even SFV's strong point from day one was that it felt really great.
kunonabi
Member
Writing on par with PxZ would have been nice.
I have a gif to make.